There has been rampant speculation on the web that George Bush is on heavy duty anti-depressant medication. He certainly is blinking funny, has all kinds of ticks and weird facial expressions, and at times he appears to be disoriented and confused. We know he is an alcoholic and a cocaine addict (supposedly sober) and he is under extraordinary pressure. If he is on meds, the American people have a right to know.

Ha ha!! I've heard those rumors too. It's hard to tell because he always seems weird, like he's on something. You gotta admit he has a whole lot on his plate right now. I think the stress is showing.


TIS

Maybe he found the stash that the prior administration left in the oval office from all the partying that they did there. Wonder if he found any sex toys?


DS

He doesn't need medication. He has ticks and weird facial expressions wherter he is high or not

Good one DS, now you are blaming Clinton for Bush's obvious insanity.

TIS that's makes a lot of sense. I can't even think of having all these problems on my mind. hurricane after hurricane has destroyed many states, causing our economy to hurt in many areas. Tornados, Brush Fires, the threat of more attacks on our country, the War in Afghanastan, the War in Iraq, investigations of those under him in his administration, etc. If I had to worry about all these things I would be twitching and jumping more than he is.


DS

DT, it was meant as a joke. Don't be so serious.


DS

DT, it was meant as a joke. Don't be so serious.


DS [/b][/quote]oh, ok

Who had heard the tabloid stories that Bush had gone back to the bottle in the last few months?

I bet he took a good strong shot after tuesday night. :p

What about this???



Or this???
http://www.globalspot.com/gallery/pics/bush3.jpg


Maybe he is on somekinda medication...

I saw one of the stories about that when I was in the grocery store about a month ago. Not that I take any stock in the tabloids, but if there was absolutely no truth to it, wouldn't Bush (or whoever appears in those magazines for any story) sue the tabloid? If some publication purported that I was drinking or using drugs, you can bet that I'd demand proof and then sue if they didn't come up with any.

BTW, if Rove does resign or is indicted, does Bush have someone else lined up as Rove's replacement to fetch the drinks? Maybe Harriet Miers will be the new drink server - she certainly adores Georgie Boy enough to wait on him. :p

If you compare before and after pictures of any president (before and after taking office), you will see how incredibly they've all aged. I know that after 8 years, we would all show some aging, but they all seem to age INCREDIBLY. I would say that Carter probably aged the most while in office, and Nixon the least. The stress of that job has to be huge.

And speaking of Clinton, does anyone else seem to think that he really hasn't bounced back after his open-heart surgery?? He looks awful. It might be the weight loss, which never looks good on someone his age, but I think that he still may not have fully recovered.

I saw one of the stories about that when I was in the grocery store about a month ago. Not that I take any stock in the tabloids, but if there was absolutely no truth to it, wouldn't Bush (or whoever appears in those magazines for any story) sue the tabloid? If some publication purported that I was drinking or using drugs, you can bet that I'd demand proof and then sue if they didn't come up with any.

:p [/QB][/quote]No one would accuse me of being a Bush lover, however even if what the tabloids said was a complete lie he would lose a libel case against them unless he could prove they 100% knew it was false and they went with it anyway. When you read those tabloids look how carefully they word what they say.

I agree SB. He looks old and tired, and his voice is weak.

My dad had the same surgery before Clinton did , and he is still not back to 100% yet.

Something happened to him. If you've ever seen interviews of him from the late 80's or early 90's he seems fine in those. He spoke very well and didn't twitch at all.

In 2000 he was acting a bit funny and now it just seems worse.

Ooo, a picture of him scratching his head and with his head tilted. Real hard copy stuff!

Yeah, I've noticed something too.

It's been said he has a problem with computation as well:

I know you are just kidding and my reply is not especially meant for you, DS, but poor Clinton! Apparently he'll be remembered for nothing but his sexual troubles. I think this is very unfair. In my opinion he was not a worse President than others and what he had to be through because of his affairs is absolutely unconceivable here in Europe. I still remember when he had to publically talk about his private life. How humiliating. They said someone who is lying is not trustable as a President. But if he lied he did it as for his private life was concerned. Personally I don't mind if my President has an affair. I'm much more interested in his behaviour as an administrator. This American sex-obsessed thing is really something I don't understand. I'm sorry.

There's always been the hardcore Clinton haters, perhaps comparable to the Bush haters today. I don't condone Clinton's private behavior, and ideally, it would be wonderful to have a perfect leader. However, I judge my President on his job performance.

Remembering all the "rightwing" outrage over Clinton's private behavior leading to his impeachment, I have to wonder where is all the outrage now over Bush and his staff's alleged (too mild of a word IMHO) behavior?? If this were Clinton they'd have his head by now. :rolleyes: Why is it America needed to know the truth about Clinton's big "lie", but not until this past week or so anyway, and certainly for the most part, not here on the BB, nobody is outraged???

This administration has more problems than you can shake a stick at, and the accusations are just a tad more serious to our nation then lying about sex. So much for honor and integrity in the oval office. :rolleyes:

Btw, if anyone else is following the current CIA investigation (and all the other trials/indictments that the Republican party face) feel free to PM articles and such as I am following it pretty closely. It would be a great thread for discussion, but I would predict that it would lead to bigtime fighting and of course blaming Clinton.

TIS

Well TIS I am outraged at what is going on right now. I am outraged because I am an American registered voting tax paying citizen of this country and I don't like what is going on within the governement. I hope that they do get to the bottom of all this bullshit, that the real truth does come out, and whomever is guilty or lying is removed, held responsible for thier actions, and brought down.

The reasons that there probably are not many discussions right now is because, as you pointed out, it will probably lead to some fighting and pissing contests here, and secondly, to be perfectly frank with you, no one involved in this whole shabang seems to really know what's going on themselves. Everyday the stories about these problems is changed by the media.

For instance DeLay is in trouble, he is indicted. Ok, if he's done something illegal then he needs to answer for it and be brought to justice. But then the next day we find out that the Judge in the case had financially supported Delay's opponent several times in the past. One day we hear a story about the prosecutor trying several times over the years to go after several different prominent republicans. Then the story dissapears.

So I refuse to debate or speculate about any of these problems right now because we the people are not getting any facts here. And I don't think that we ever do. Be it with Clinton in the past, or Bush now. They all tell us what they want to tell us.

You know what? They all are a bunch of lying whores with their own agendas. Personally I don't think that any of them really give two F**ks about the people and what they should be doing to serve us.

Maybe it's time we start a new political party in this country and just call it "The American People" party!


Don Cardi

Thanks for the honest/fair reply DC! You're correct, all the facts are NOT out yet. However, to me, an indictment is a little more that a blind accusation. As far as Libby/DeLay goes anyway. The Grand Jury apparently found enough information to bring him to trial (as opposed to just pointing a finger). By all accounts that I've read, Libby isn't disputing what he testified to, but is going to use the "I forgot" defense, which, from what I've read also, isn't the best defense.

P.S. I'll probably regret I even said anything here.

TIS

What we should remember is that if Scotter Libby doesn't want to go to prison for lying.....thing is, why did he lie if nothing happened?

In other words....major stuff could happen if he squeal information to the Prosecutor of his "boss", Vice-President Dick Cheney. That is, if the President doesn't pardon Libby. However, it wouldn't be wise to pardon Libby unless its absolutely necessary, since the possible backlash in the media and public would be....brutal for a President, as low as his polls are.

If anything, the President should ask Cheney to resign, and nominate/approve a new Vice-President.

Since when did that matter?

You're 100% "right" about the rest.

You know what? They all are a bunch of lying whores with their own agendas. Personally I don't think that any of them really give two F**ks about the people and what they should be doing to serve us.

Maybe it's time we start a new political party in this country and just call it "The American People" party!


Don Cardi [/QB][/quote]DC I dont agree with you on politics very often, but what you say here is 100% correct. Nothing ever changes but the swines at the trough. We should start a new party, and it should be dedicated to serving the people of this country in every way...defense, health care, education, infrastructure, the works. We should just start trying things to improve the country, and if they work, we keep doing it and if they dont we try something else.

If Libby is found guilty what will most likely be his punishment?

This is so true

Mig,

I believe, if convicted, the sentence was 20 yrs. No doubt, he won't get that much. Speculation has it that Fitzgerald is insisting on "some" amount of jail time, which of course Libby doesn't want. I'm guessing Fitzgerald is trying to get Libby to flip, but I'm hearing how he won't ever flip. He may be counting on a pardon, who knows?

TIS

Thanks TIS.

Do the crime do the time