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Batman Begins #115920
06/18/05 12:36 AM
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Batman Begins is flawed in the way that all comic book films as of recent are: the transition from comic book to movie is a very rocky one. Tim Burton knew how to get by this by simply making a film rather than an adaptation, but this film still feels like a comic. Because of this Batman Begins suffers from ultra-fast pacing, some bad performances (Katie Holmes' was okay while I actually hated Cillian Murphy's; though, generally, the performances were great), mediocre direction poor dialogue, etc. But this avoids being pretentious while at the same time being serious, emotional, psychological, and almost even intellectual. Bale is a great Batman, and it's a shame that he has to stand in Keaton's shadow, because it keeps me from labelling him as "perfect." It has been noted that some of the action scenes are confusing because Nolan shoots in close-up, but he still manages to craft genuine suspense. Furthermore, and ultimately, this film has an abundance of entertainment. The non-action scenes are all treats because nearly the whole cast is great (save, as I mentioned, Holmes and Murphy) and serve more of a purpose than just spending time to await a culmination action sequence. And the action scenes--confusing, they may be--are among the most thrilling in the history of action cinema.

**** out of ****

For me, this is the best film of the year so far because it is among the few to actually know what it wants to achieve and doesn't get lost along the way. I can't see myself having more fun at the movies this year; and, if that doesn't motivate you to see this, the film is an interesting rumination of memory, the key theme of Nolan's career thus far.

So, has anybody else seen this yet?

Thug


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Re: Batman Begins #115921
06/18/05 01:17 AM
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I've seen it, and actually.....I agree with you on Holmes, but disagree on Murphy.

Really, why do people still cling onto Tim Burton's original overrated BATMAN movie? Fact is, BATMAN BEGINS is superior and in fact may be the greatest comic book adaptation of all time.

Speaking of which, I think Keaton is in Bale's shadow now. Keaton was a good Bruce Wayne, but as Batman...I never believed him in that stiff foam rubber suit. Then again, I bought Bale for sure. He IS Batman, and don't forget it!

While I agree that Nolan needs work on his action-directing, he'll improve overtime when he does a sequel(and unless a fluke occurs, there WILL be a sequel folks). Anyway, I liked that in many scenes, you don't actually see him at all, which as a guy that grew up reading on BATMAN, it was perfect.

Finally, Nolan makes Bale as Batman something that quite frankly Burton could never do....make him frightening.

Speaking of which...Bad Directing? Friend, if you want to see some bad direction, just check out Michael Bay's THE ISLAND next month. The man behind PEARL HARBOR and ARMAGGEDON can't direct worth a shit. Nolan did a splendid job methinks with BEGINS.

You know, what is the last time you've seen a summer blockbuster movie where you WANT to see a sequel?

Other thoughts....solid screenplay by David Goyer which then Nolan re-wrote to his fancy...Supporting cast, including Murphy, all which are totally fun, including Denmark/BLADE RUNNER's own Rutger Hauer as the slimeball CEO...Besides explaining how Batman got his Batmobile, the Batcave, his suit, his helmet, etc, it even explained how he was able to ship the materials to his placfe he needed for his schtick without anyone noticing...generic yet serviceble score. Finally, I hated the title. BATMAN BEGINS is a damn lame title, and I wish I could time travel back to 1989 and replace that decent-if-overrated Tim Burton film with this.

Final Film Rating - **** out of 5

"Tim Burton knew how to get by this by simply making a film rather than an adaptation, but this film still feels like a comic."

Huh? Want some advice friend? Take that movie, that lame dated-as-hell Prince song, and everything about it...and just flush it down the toilet. Really, This is the only true BATMAN movie yet. Really, you'll feel better.

Other than that, I agree this is easily the best movie of the summer(though SIN CITY really was not a summer movie, but more back in Spring, but you get my point) and really, this is uplifting from the mediocre movie that was REVENGE OF THE SITH, which did absolutely nothing for me.

Re: Batman Begins #115922
06/18/05 02:04 PM
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I think the 1989 Batman was a great movie, but prefer Batman Begins. I was really refering to Batman Returns in the post above. I made a post about it being a masterpiece over at the MovieFan boards.

I never said bad directing (or did I?) but mediocre direction. Nolan is not able to do anything with visuals to make them memorable or beautiful. As a director, I find him just average. I believe he is a much better screenwriter than a director.

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Re: Batman Begins #115923
06/18/05 03:33 PM
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Thanks for clarifying some things.

Re: Batman Begins #115924
06/23/05 10:38 PM
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I hope all these good reviews don't ruin my viewing of it. I'm putting it off until I finish the older movies.


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