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Terri Schiavo passes away
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03/31/05 11:09 AM
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May she rest in peace. From CNN.com WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Terri Schiavo, the 41-year-old brain-damaged woman who became the centerpiece of a national right-to-die battle died Thursday morning, nearly two weeks after doctors removed the feeding tube that had sustained her for more than a decade. Brother Paul O'Donnell, a spokesman for Bob and Mary Schindler, Schiavo's parents, said the couple was with their daughter's body and praying. Wednesday, the Schindlers lost what their lawyer described as their "last meaningful legal appeal" in their desperate battle to have their brain-damaged daughter's feeding tube reinserted. The U.S. Supreme Court late Wednesday refused once again to hear an emergency appeal from the Schindlers. Their lawyer, David Gibbs, heard the high court had rejected the appeal during a news conference outside the Pinellas Park, Florida, hospice where Schiavo is receiving care. "It appears that that will be the last meaningful legal appeal unless something comes up," Gibbs said. "Fundamentally, the decision of the Florida courts will remain unchanged and the federal courts have declined to get involved." Thursday morning, O' Donnell said that Schiavo was in her final hours of life, and police have prohibited her blood relatives from spending time with her. O'Donnell, one of the family's spiritual advisers, said that her parents and siblings were "begging to be at her bedside...but are being denied." Michael Schiavo was Terri's guardian and controlled who may visit her and when. Pasco-Pinellas Circuit Judge George Greer in Clearwater, Florida, ordered the feeding tube removed March 18 at Michael Schiavo's request. He has said that his wife wouldn't have wanted to live in her condition -- what Florida courts have deemed a "persistent vegetative state." The parents felt otherwise and had sought to take guardianship of their daughter from her husband. Their bitter court battles began in 1998. "I don't understand why Michael Schiavo at some point didn't walk away," Gibbs said. Justice Anthony Kennedy, who has jurisdiction over Florida, Georgia and Alabama, and could have ruled on the petition on his own, referred the appeal to the entire Supreme Court at 10:40 p.m. Wednesday. There was no breakdown of the vote, and the high court issued no explanation for its decision. The petition had been filed earlier in the night. It was the second time in a week the high court refused to hear the case, and the sixth time since 2001. The Schindlers "can know they have done everything possible under the law in letting government know that they wanted to fight for the life of their daughter," Gibbs said. In his Supreme Court filing, Gibbs and other lawyers for the parents wrote that removing the tube represented "an unconstitutional deprivation of Terri Schiavo's constitutional right to life." The Supreme Court's rejection came hours after the 11th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Atlanta, Georgia, rejected the parents' petition 9-2. That court denied three similar requests from the parents last week. In a concurring opinion of the Atlanta court's latest ruling, Judge Stanley Birch said Congress "chose to overstep constitutional boundaries" by passing a law to force the Schiavo case into federal courts. Judges Gerald Tjoflat and Charles Wilson dissented, with Tjoflat writing that the Schindlers deserved a hearing on the merits of their argument. On March 21, three days after Schiavo's feeding tube was removed, Congress passed a bill transferring jurisdiction of the case from Florida state court to a U.S. District Court, for a federal judge to review. President Bush signed it into law the next day. But federal courts refused to overturn the state courts' decision. 2002 videotapes released The Pinellas County Probate Court has released nine of 11 videotapes of Terri Schiavo recorded in the summer of 2002 and shown in a Florida appeals court hearing on her medical condition. The videos show several doctors talking to and examining Schiavo to get ready for their court testimony. The tapes were recorded from July to September 2002. Family members, including her mother and husband, also appear in the video. Two of the 11 tapes remain sealed by the court, but it was unclear why. In October 2002, Florida's 2nd District Court of Appeal heard a week of testimony from five doctors who examined her, including two picked by Michael Schiavo, two by her parents and one picked by the court. Three doctors, including one appointed by the court, testified that Terri Schiavo was in a persistent vegetative state with no hope of recovery. The two doctors selected by the Schindlers testified they thought she could recover. The appellate court concurred with a lower court decision that Schiavo had no hope of recovery and that her feeding tube could be removed. Terri Schiavo collapsed in her home in 1990, suffering from heart failure that led to severe brain damage because of lack of oxygen. Her husband has said she suffered from bulimia, an eating disorder, that resulted in a potassium deficiency that triggered the heart failure.
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Re: Terri Schiavo passes away
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03/31/05 01:21 PM
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Rest in peace, Terri. IMHO, if they would've talked about "pulling the plug" (for lack of a better term) 10 years ago or whenever she'd first lapsed into a debilitating coma, I would've thought, "Yeah, that would be humane enough." But to let a person starve to death? I'm sorry, but that's just wrong. I've got mixed emotions about the whole euthanasia thing. At any rate, it did sicken me to see what a circus was made out of it (by folks on both sides of the issue. But at least, hopefully, Terri's in a better place.
"Vaya con Dios, Castle. Go with God." "God's going to sit this one out." The Punisher (2004)
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Re: Terri Schiavo passes away
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03/31/05 02:17 PM
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Originally posted by xXx_DoN_CoRLeOnE_xXx: From CNN.com
...Michael Schiavo was Terri's guardian and controlled who may visit her and when. ... While Michael Schiavo's legal rights as Terri's husband cannot be disputed - I think it was particularly mean & nasty of him to give so little consideration to her parents even during these last few weeks. I have heard that he will not even release her body to them for burial, but has planned cremation because (again), "...Terri told me that's what she wanted..." Now that this is over, M. Schiavo has a brand new family to turn to, and the Schindlers have lost a child that they had been willing to care for, brain damaged or not. I agree - he should burn in hell. Someday. I hope they're waiting for him down there Apple
A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government.
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Re: Terri Schiavo passes away
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03/31/05 02:27 PM
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Originally posted by ronnierocketAGO: Ummm, isn't The Lord supposed to decide who goes to Hell?
Really, its quite pretentious for many to automatically judge when they don't have the Theological Constitutional Judicial rights to do so. Dear ronnierocketAGO: We are not 'deciding' that M. Schiavo will go to Hell. We are simply stating that that is what we feel he deserves. Of course, the ultimate decision is out of our hands, but we're entitled to our opinions, as are you. I think it's '...quite pretentious...' of you to '...automatically judge...' your listmates when you don't have the '...Theological Constitutional Judicial rights to do so...' AppleOnYa
A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government.
- THOMAS JEFFERSON
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Re: Terri Schiavo passes away
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03/31/05 04:37 PM
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Damn, you're giving Veggie-Girl's hubby too much credit.
Really, that Hell Room reservation should go to like Milosevich...oh right, most of you wouldn't remember that Fat Slav.
Anyway AppleOnYa, you seemed confused about the Theocratical Christian Constitution. Check it out on the internet sometime, and then preach to me about how the "Seperation of Powers" actually work between the branches of this spiritual government that is God, Jesus, Mankind, the Universe, the Hell, etc.
P.S. - Sorry for the Veggie-Girl label, but Bedsore Betty, Brocoli Barbie, etc. just didn't fit. Have a Nice Day!
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Re: Terri Schiavo passes away
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03/31/05 04:41 PM
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for all those who feal that the husband who had to make a difficult choice should be sent to hell for his actions, answer me this...
If you husband, wife, fiance, girlfriend, father, mother was in the same state as Terri, wouldnt you pull the plug. I have serious doubt if my fiance was stuck in a vegitative state for 15 years i wouldnt want to move on, even if i still loved her.
"I'm your Older Brother Mike, And I was stepped over!"
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Re: Terri Schiavo passes away
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03/31/05 04:57 PM
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Thursday morning, O' Donnell said that Schiavo was in her final hours of life, and police have prohibited her blood relatives from spending time with her.
O'Donnell, one of the family's spiritual advisers, said that her parents and siblings were "begging to be at her bedside...but are being denied."
Michael Schiavo was Terri's guardian and controlled who may visit her and when. What the hell? RIP Terri
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Re: Terri Schiavo passes away
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03/31/05 05:00 PM
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Originally posted by Snake: Rest in peace, Terri.
IMHO, if they would've talked about "pulling the plug" (for lack of a better term) 10 years ago or whenever she'd first lapsed into a debilitating coma, I would've thought, "Yeah, that would be humane enough." But to let a person starve to death? I'm sorry, but that's just wrong. I've got mixed emotions about the whole euthanasia thing.
At any rate, it did sicken me to see what a circus was made out of it (by folks on both sides of the issue. But at least, hopefully, Terri's in a better place. SNAKE - hey its been a long time dude! I agree - she is in a better place. What I do not think her husband realizes is that in this life what goes around - comes around. The good and the evil that we send out will come back again - I hope he is ready to handle it!
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Re: Terri Schiavo passes away
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03/31/05 06:07 PM
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Originally posted by ronnierocketAGO: ... AppleOnYa, you seemed confused about the Theocratical Christian Constitution. Check it out on the internet sometime, and then preach to me ... I don't pretend to know anything about it, ronnieboy. It's your preaching to members of this list about 'the Lord' and being judgemental that was the main subject of my response. So get off your high and act like a human being, you sanctimonious . Unless you enjoy being a member of the Michael Schiavo fan club. Best, AppleOnYa ps - thanks though, for providing me the opportunity to have some graemlin fun!!
A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government.
- THOMAS JEFFERSON
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Re: Terri Schiavo passes away
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03/31/05 06:42 PM
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Originally posted by Don Smitty: Did anyone hear that the husband did not let the mother and father be in the roon while she died? The husband's lawyer tried to make it clear in his press conference 'statement' that the parents chose not to be there (which I find odd) - but that Terri's brother was present and (according to lawyer) put up some kind of a fuss when he was asked to leave Terri's room. Interesting how even now after her death...Mr. Schiavo's side seems intent on showing Terri's family in a negative light. Apple
A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government.
- THOMAS JEFFERSON
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