Not sure about Moscatiello. I still laugh at that wiretap when Gotti called him a dunskie lol. What’s even funnier is that there is a news report out there which plays that wiretap where the news anchor(who obviously didn’t know anything about the mob) says that dunskie is apparently a term for a made man lol

JC, that reporter was not completely wrong. In NYC street lingo, when a guy is referred to as a "dunsky," that connotes a guy who either is, or thinks he is, an underworld big shot. Whether or not the referenced guy is made (which he very well could be), or a street guy or unmade racketeer very active and high-up in the rackets.

When Gotti used the term, "If your husband "thinks" he's a dunsky," he was suggesting that the husband thinks he's a bigshot. Gotti was gonna then put him in his place. Understand what I'm saying?

Anthony Parrillo in Providence

From LCNBios


c. 1978
- Armand 'Buddy' Dellacroce (23y) (Died 1988)
- Anthony Vitta (40y) (Died 2018) [Sponsored by J. Armone]

Information re Dellacroce's membership was unknowingly passed on to an FBI source (possibly UCA Donnie Brasco) by Bonanno Soldier Anthony Mirra. Dellacroce was again identified as a made member by a Gambino source in early 1980.

. Interesting thanks for clearing that up NYMafia. I hadn’t heard that term referring a street guy but I guess it makes sense. I know he said something like “if you’re a dub sky it your wife is a dunsky” I thought he meant he was calling him an idiot lol

. LCNBios is really good with updating legit info so I think it’s very possible or probable he was made

Yeah, he's interesting in the fact that he was reported to be the consigliere by some news sources but he seems like a sort a new comer for that role in that family.

You're welcome. It's very easy to understand how that word could be misconstrued.

In Black Hand Forum Moscatiello is listed as made in 2008 but when was arrested in 2012 for double murder in Florida come over that was a long time informer.

There are many guys who secretly cooperated with LE over the years, so-called "made" and non-made, as well. Thats no big news anymore.

Years back, 1950s-1980s era, it was actually shocking to hear about a guy turning, any street guy. Nowadays? LOL, guys flipping are a dime-a-dozen.

A "Dunsky" is a term for an idiot, not for a wiseguy or one who thinks they are.

It could be because he was Neil's son he hung out there. It does not make him automatically a member of the mob, although I do think he was likely involved in some activity.

. Yup it was certainly a lot different in that era in many ways

Yep, and despite the misconception of many people, it "ain't" coming back any time soon....Their time and heyday has long passed.

What about Joseph Paruta ?

He was inducted on his death bed by Gravano and a few Gambino captains with the approval of John Gotti.

- James Tartaglione (Bonanno) claimed that when he was made, he was summoned to a place with other guys and the administration simply told them that from now on they were soldiers of the family and they told them the rules. No gun on the table, no picking the finger and burning the image of a saint and sometimes no oath. During the Massino era, The Bonanno induected many guys without following the protocol.

Incidentally, when Gotti heard that the Decavalcante family didn't follow the right process during their induction ceremonies, he ordered this family to redo the ceremony and doing it the right way this time, which they did.




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Reminds me of testimony from Chucky porter and Louis Raucci’s trial in Pittsburgh in 1990, Joey Rosa testified at the trial,( and his father and grandfather were made members), Rosa testified that he was made after giving a large sum of insurance money from a staged robbery of his own jewelry store kicked up to Michael Genovese, something like $70k-$80k out of the $100k he got from the insurance company for the staged robbery.
Genovese told him that he was now one of them, he was now an equal, etc, basically just had a conversation with him Saying he was made. I believe he testified others were there too including Chucky. That conversation would have been around 1988, before making ceremonies were being recorded.

So it would not surprise me if other guys were getting made without the whole ceremony or gun on the table, or burning the saint. Pittsburgh mad guy Sam Mannarino told the feds when he was made there was no burning of the saint card either, and he told them that in the 60s. Maybe Pittsburgh just did it a little differently, but I had read that there were still ceremonies going on in the early 80s where they’re making guys, so maybe it was a case by case basis.

He was made on the deathbed. Gravano called him "my Luca Brasi". Paruta had a mortal deasease that made him look more old respect his age,also asked to be killed but died before Gotti could give the ok.

Thanks to BH Forum.

The Bonanno family’s books were closed from 1979-1984 by order of the Commission.

September 1984: (Apartment in Marine Park, Brooklyn)
Salvatore “Sal” Vitale (Sponsored by J. Massino)
James “Big Lou” Tartaglione (Sponsored by J. Massino)