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Re: Sicilian Mafia boss Toto Riina dead at 87
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11/17/17 08:12 AM
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- 'An absolute monarchy' -
"It's infinitely less powerful than before. After the deaths of (boss Bernardo) Provenzano and Riina, the only one at liberty is being hunted by the police," the head of Italy's national anti-mafia body, Maurizio De Lucia, told AFP.
Multi-murderer playboy Messina Denaro, one of the world's most-wanted men, is seen by many as Riina's natural heir but has been on the run since 1993.
"Cosa Nostra is a very strictly structured organisation, similar to an absolute monarchy. While the king still lives, it's not possible to think of picking a successor," De Lucia said.
"The question now is whether the organisation is strong enough to identify and appoint an heir. Many of its bosses have been arrested, and enormous amounts of its patrimony has been seized" over the years, he said.
"The king is dead, long live the king!"
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Re: Sicilian Mafia boss Toto Riina dead at 87
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11/17/17 01:29 PM
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Toto was the baddest Europe has ever seen, as far as gangsters that is. And that says something. The amount of violence he unleashed was unheard of, even among other mafiosi. Will he attempt to become capo di tutti capi in hell by massacring the devil and all his family members and allies?
"It was between the brothers Kay -- I had nothing to do with it."
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Re: Sicilian Mafia boss Toto Riina dead at 87
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11/17/17 01:42 PM
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Some comments by the expert John Dickie.
What happens now? My guess: the political drift within Cosa Nostra continues, and with it the organization's decline.
Cosa Nostra is weaker than it has ever been. The state is better at fighting Cosa Nostra than ever. Both of those things are legacies of Riina’s rule.
Meanwhile, income is falling, which means less money to keep prisoners and their families happy—so more chance they will turn state’s evidence
On 2 occasions, senior mafiosi tried to pull the Commission together, which could have opened the way for a new leader to emerge. But both times the police were watching and captured them all.
The state has been turning the screw. Riina was on his way to a meeting of the ruling Commission when he was captured in ’93. The Commission hasn’t managed to meet since.
Meanwhile, police and investigators have learned the lessons of Giovanni Falcone and his fight against Riina in the 1980s, and offer a much, much tougher opponent.
Hence Cosa Nostra’s division. Riina’s successor Provenzano didn’t have the authority to deal with it. Cosa Nostra has remained pretty much ungovernable.
However, Riina’s allies are terrified of that the exiles will return and exact vengeance for the slaughter of the 1980s.
Riina drove many of his enemies into exile. Since his capture, they have been angling to return, looking for allies in the old country. The mafia is weak and needs its American links more than ever.
"The king is dead, long live the king!"
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Re: Sicilian Mafia boss Toto Riina dead at 87
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11/17/17 01:49 PM
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Some comments by the expert John Dickie.
What happens now? My guess: the political drift within Cosa Nostra continues, and with it the organization's decline.
Cosa Nostra is weaker than it has ever been. The state is better at fighting Cosa Nostra than ever. Both of those things are legacies of Riina’s rule.
Meanwhile, income is falling, which means less money to keep prisoners and their families happy—so more chance they will turn state’s evidence
On 2 occasions, senior mafiosi tried to pull the Commission together, which could have opened the way for a new leader to emerge. But both times the police were watching and captured them all.
The state has been turning the screw. Riina was on his way to a meeting of the ruling Commission when he was captured in ’93. The Commission hasn’t managed to meet since.
Meanwhile, police and investigators have learned the lessons of Giovanni Falcone and his fight against Riina in the 1980s, and offer a much, much tougher opponent.
Hence Cosa Nostra’s division. Riina’s successor Provenzano didn’t have the authority to deal with it. Cosa Nostra has remained pretty much ungovernable.
However, Riina’s allies are terrified of that the exiles will return and exact vengeance for the slaughter of the 1980s.
Riina drove many of his enemies into exile. Since his capture, they have been angling to return, looking for allies in the old country. The mafia is weak and needs its American links more than ever.
Excellent quotes! He was a horrible boss who’s brutality led to the mafia becoming very weak in Sicily. The Mafia was near complete control of Sicily, making billions off of drugs along, and they fucked it all up.
"It wasn't very good parsley to begin with, and then the cat went and peed on it." -Sicilian proverb
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Re: Sicilian Mafia boss Toto Riina dead at 87
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11/17/17 03:51 PM
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Some comments by the expert John Dickie.
What happens now? My guess: the political drift within Cosa Nostra continues, and with it the organization's decline.
Cosa Nostra is weaker than it has ever been. The state is better at fighting Cosa Nostra than ever. Both of those things are legacies of Riina’s rule.
Meanwhile, income is falling, which means less money to keep prisoners and their families happy—so more chance they will turn state’s evidence
On 2 occasions, senior mafiosi tried to pull the Commission together, which could have opened the way for a new leader to emerge. But both times the police were watching and captured them all.
The state has been turning the screw. Riina was on his way to a meeting of the ruling Commission when he was captured in ’93. The Commission hasn’t managed to meet since.
Meanwhile, police and investigators have learned the lessons of Giovanni Falcone and his fight against Riina in the 1980s, and offer a much, much tougher opponent.
Hence Cosa Nostra’s division. Riina’s successor Provenzano didn’t have the authority to deal with it. Cosa Nostra has remained pretty much ungovernable.
However, Riina’s allies are terrified of that the exiles will return and exact vengeance for the slaughter of the 1980s.
Riina drove many of his enemies into exile. Since his capture, they have been angling to return, looking for allies in the old country. The mafia is weak and needs its American links more than ever.
Sicilian Mafia still controls almost all of Sicily,they still have close connections to freemasonry.They will never be powerful as they were back in the day,but still one of most powerful organisation in the world.
"A fish with his mouth closed never get's caught"
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Re: Sicilian Mafia boss Toto Riina dead at 87
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11/17/17 05:43 PM
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Sicilian Mafia still controls almost all of Sicily,they still have close connections to freemasonry.They will never be powerful as they were back in the day,but still one of most powerful organisation in the world.
Dickie is not wrong, but Provenzano's strategy of survival took the mafia underground and infiltrated business, law enforcement, and politics even more.
Last edited by Hollander; 11/17/17 05:46 PM.
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Re: Sicilian Mafia boss Toto Riina dead at 87
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http://www.antimafiaduemila.com/home/pri...osa-nostra.html"I'm not mistaken when I say that my father's ability to challenge the Colombian state has taught him from Totó Riina," Anyone who inspires Pablo Escobar to become what he became(toto) must be considerd as one of the greatest of all time (from a criminal perspective)
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