Great article Toodoped but in the 2010s the Outfit is still involved in drug trufficking ?

Yes. There was an article with either 2 members or associates dressing up as cops and robbing trap houses. Their main information came from the C-Notes mob.

http://chicagoganghistory.com/gangs/insane-c-notes/

WOW Still exist italian american gangs

Status: Active
Insane C Notes
Formerly known as C-Notes 1952-1995
Colors Italian flag colors green, white and red 1952-early 1970s
Primary ethnicities White (Italian)
Symbols Dollar sign, bag of money
Affiliation Folks since 1995
Founder Unknown. Submit info.
Founding year 1952
Founding neighborhood Southern West Town, Ohio and Leavitt
Main neighborhood Southern West Town, Ohio and Leavitt

Yes of course. Next time just leave the link Furio.

Ok done.

Let this sink in ....Chicago Outfit is under the Folks Nation (6). LoL

Lol never in a milion years the outfit would be under the folk nation.

That gang is likely hispanic at this point.

LoL

Im just saying, The associates was members and a few became official memebers. When they get lock up in prison, C-Notes is going to have their back. Therefore , The Outfit is unofficially in the Folks Nation.

Scorsese

They have a mixed of Latino & few Black members but still a presence of whites.

Why unofficially? And why a mob family should stay under a black gang ? Are so ruined ?

Unofficial due to the history and link to the C-Notes, whose are under the Folks Nation. Folks Nation isn't a black gang, it's an Alliance of multi ethnic groups. White, Black, Latino, Asian , etc. Doesn't matter what your ethnicity kust your affilation. Obviously prison protection.

I apologize if this question has already been dealt with in this thread , but is there any truth to the claim that the Outfit was never as involved in drug trafficking as the New York families ?

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Please, please, please
Read PAGE 1.

Untill the moment when Chicago lost its seat on the commission table or untill the moment when US Cosa Nostra stopped operating as a strong national organized crime network, the Chi boys were almost on the same level with some of the NY fams in regarding the dope business, obviously because they played a big part in spreading the product around the Midwest. The only huge difference was that the Outfit had less members who were strictly, directly or constantly involved with junk, while compared to the east coast organizations

I have to correct myself on the previous satement, meaning i was talking about Joe LoPiccolo not Mogavero, since the second one is not even mentioned in the text.

Can we say in hindsight T. that the national Commission lost its purpose when the crime families lost their influence/control of the national unions (Teamsters, ILA etc.)? I mean there was no more reason for them to get together after that, plus it was very dangerous and incriminating if they got caught right?

I find it very ironic that they were this major national organization in the early 30's, when they got together often and were in constant communication with each other it seemed. Subsequently they became incredibly isolated in the 21st century, in a time where technology has made the world a helluva lot smaller.

Good historical info on drug involvement by the Outit, et al. Tip of the hat to you for researching and sharing.

A couple of things to emphasize: if caught dealing drugs, you better have a reputation as a "stand-up" guy or your chances of survival may be slim, depending on the drug and charges. You point this out very well. Deal but don't get caught.

The structure was such that the top echelon guys were well insulated......obviously. The junk crews did the dirty work and took the chances. You covered it.

Another problem was the distribution of drugs was almost impossible to control. The Junk Crews were prone to keeping a little extra for themselves and this led to problems with personal use and how to effectively deal with such matters. Many associates were killed,but killing brought heat, and even though the Outfit operated with impunity, it was still a problem because so many people had their hands in the drug trade.

Increased law enforcement was another problem. As time progressed, law enforcement improved and more arrests were made. Also, as you pointed out, many of these guys were not the tough Outfit members of times past. When busted, there were only two choices: inform or go to jail. Many of these individuals were addicts and would "roll" in a heartbeat. Many times law enforcement would threaten them with simply saying "you can always make bail and go back out on the street." Of course this was intended to instill fear in the individual because he knew darn well he would be killed. The choices were limited, the risks were high, and the problems were many. You also mentioned this and it was a tactic used all over the country.

The profits from drugs keep OC involved. I don't know how much the Outft is involved today. I would think gangs have pretty much taken over the drug business and the Outfit is pretty much powerless to deal with gangs, or maybe not interested. Still, I imagine there is some direct or indirect involvement by the Outfit.

Cocaine became epidemic during the 80's, maybe earlier. I would think there are numerous independent cocaine dealers; maybe small groups of 4-5 people in various places throughout the city who continue in the cocaine business. No doubt larger groups are also involved in cocaine distribution.

Prescription medication is another huge problem.

I better stop rambling. Great article, Toidoped.

@GaryMartin thanks a lot and also thank you for the additional preception of the whole saga. As far as drugs are considered illegal, it will be the most profitable business and also "exit" for every criminal around the world.

@BillyB to tell you the turth, i believe that the national commission lost its purpose since the late 1950's when they reached the national newspaper headlines.