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Rizzuto Family Chart 2014/2015 ? #841501
05/11/15 03:39 AM
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I only found this chart,anyone has a updated chart ?

Re: Rizzuto Family Chart 2014/2015 ? [Re: furio_from_naples] #841514
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The Montreal Mafia is now represented by a small group of at least six individuals.

You can see their names in the beginning of the video in this link.
http://tvanouvelles.ca/video/4108984077001
03/13/15
This is a local media in Montreal I don't believe it's accurate (I live in Montreal) but maybe I'm wrong.

Re: Rizzuto Family Chart 2014/2015 ? [Re: furio_from_naples] #841533
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Majority of the people on that chart were the ones who got cozy with the Ontario Calabrians while Vito was away and ended up paying for it.


And that video is somewhat accurate. From all those knowledgable in the area, the younger guard is now running things for the Rizzuto clan, the likes of Spagnolo, the Rocco Sollecito's son and some of the other names mentioned in that video.

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Re: Rizzuto Family Chart 2014/2015 ? [Re: furio_from_naples] #841554
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"A fish with his mouth closed never get's caught"
Re: Rizzuto Family Chart 2014/2015 ? [Re: furio_from_naples] #841556
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No ones gona have a full chart of these dudes....they're as tight as a rats ass.

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Re: Rizzuto Family Chart 2014/2015 ? [Re: furio_from_naples] #841575
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Yep it would be very hard to find a good chart on the Rizzuto's. We still don't even know who the true boss is much less the rest. The ones that fell with Vito away and the ones that fell after he came home has changed the structure big time.

Re: Rizzuto Family Chart 2014/2015 ? [Re: SinatraClub] #841576
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Originally Posted By: SinatraClub
Majority of the people on that chart were the ones who got cozy with the Ontario Calabrians while Vito was away and ended up paying for it.


From that old chart, do you know who stayed loyal and who attempted to cross him and died?

Re: Rizzuto Family Chart 2014/2015 ? [Re: furio_from_naples] #841876
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Id bet on rocco sollecito or acardi being boss

Re: Rizzuto Family Chart 2014/2015 ? [Re: ItalianIrishMix] #841880
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Originally Posted By: ItalianIrishMix
Originally Posted By: SinatraClub
Majority of the people on that chart were the ones who got cozy with the Ontario Calabrians while Vito was away and ended up paying for it.


From that old chart, do you know who stayed loyal and who attempted to cross him and died?



Joe Di Maulo & Moreno Gallo crossed and died. I know Arcadi lost some trust within the organization but don't know if he ever actually went to the other side, might've been sent to prison before he ever had the chance. Both Sollecito's stayed loyal. Arvizos and remnants of the Ontario Panepinto crew stayed loyal, and became victims during the war. Juan Fernandez played both sides when he was ordered to choose Rizzuto over Desjardin's and he was killed. I think Giuseppe Morello stayed loyal and was among the victims during the war, not too sure. Giuseppe Torre stayed loyal. Don't know what became of the remaining Cotroni boys. Scaduto whom was involved in the Scarcella/Modica/Russo shooting in the sandwich shop stayed loyal, was deported to Italy and was among those who murdered Fernandez & Pimentel. And I doubt Arcadi is boss considering how mistrusted he'd supposedly became during everything because of him being Calabrian. I THINK, I'm not too sure as my memory is foggy right now Vincenzo De Santis stayed loyal and was killed.

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Re: Rizzuto Family Chart 2014/2015 ? [Re: SinatraClub] #841923
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Originally Posted By: SinatraClub
Originally Posted By: ItalianIrishMix
Originally Posted By: SinatraClub
Majority of the people on that chart were the ones who got cozy with the Ontario Calabrians while Vito was away and ended up paying for it.


From that old chart, do you know who stayed loyal and who attempted to cross him and died?



Joe Di Maulo & Moreno Gallo crossed and died. I know Arcadi lost some trust within the organization but don't know if he ever actually went to the other side, might've been sent to prison before he ever had the chance. Both Sollecito's stayed loyal. Arvizos and remnants of the Ontario Panepinto crew stayed loyal, and became victims during the war. Juan Fernandez played both sides when he was ordered to choose Rizzuto over Desjardin's and he was killed. I think Giuseppe Morello stayed loyal and was among the victims during the war, not too sure. Giuseppe Torre stayed loyal. Don't know what became of the remaining Cotroni boys. Scaduto whom was involved in the Scarcella/Modica/Russo shooting in the sandwich shop stayed loyal, was deported to Italy and was among those who murdered Fernandez & Pimentel. And I doubt Arcadi is boss considering how mistrusted he'd supposedly became during everything because of him being Calabrian. I THINK, I'm not too sure as my memory is foggy right now Vincenzo De Santis stayed loyal and was killed.


I agree, hard to gauge what really happened with Arcadi but there is enough to where they wont follow in line with him.

I initially thought Rocco Sollecito and some here and other boards quickly told me no and that he wasn't involved (might have been the other board) but the Joe Bravo tapes proved different. Then the story about his son raised some eyebrows.

Now me, I think it really could be his son Stefano Sollecito with Rocco being kind of like the consigliere. No way he is NOT involved. If it's not Stefano, it is someone from the new guard, a youngster. I don't think they'll follow any of the older guys anymore and no way Vito chose anyone outside of his family for the new boss. I think they were cousins with the Sollecito's and if not, they were basically family anyways as I think Vito and Rocco were childhood friends. I just don't see Leonardo Rizzuto jumping in and getting his hands this dirty when he was a legit lawyer for many years (I say legit but I think he helped his Dad in legit and non legit dealings). I could be wrong as he might be stepping in to save the family, but I don't see it. I think they are tired, and Vito's wife not even doing an autopsy just proves it in my mind.

Re: Rizzuto Family Chart 2014/2015 ? [Re: furio_from_naples] #841925
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As for the question on those that crossed or was killed I'd say at least 7 that have pics have been killed or is thought to be dead. I'm sure I'm missing someone. I'd say at least another 4 with pics are not trusted at this point and/or are on the hit list.

Just noticed they listed Real Simard, why would they list a rat? He was a hitter for Cotroni wasn't he? I was finally able to blow this up and read the names, I couldn't before.

Noteables with the names with pics:

Arcadi is in prison and his status is up in the air like Sinatra said.

I think Vincent Di Maulo is retired and was still Rizzuto's golfing buddy even after Joe was clipped.

I also heard Ragusa was retired too.

Of course it is thought the Cotroni's can't be trusted.

Not sure why Paolo Renda is listed on the "sidelines". He is dead. I'd also say he was possibly the underboss before I would say Joe Di Maulo was.

Same for Rocco Sollecito, it was thought he was retired but like I said in another post, the Joe Bravo tapes prove that theory wrong. He is definitely NOT on the sidelines.

And over on the associates there are duplicates from those listed with pics:

Juan Raymon Fernandez is Raymond Fernandez aka Joe Bravo that is listed with a pic over on the right. Same guy.

Same with Joseph Di Maulo, he also went by Giuseppe Di Maulo, Joe Di Maulo and of course Joseph.

Moreno Gallo was clipped by Vito.

Panepinto is listed again as well

I know I probably missed a lot but it's 1:30am and I'm tired lol

Re: Rizzuto Family Chart 2014/2015 ? [Re: furio_from_naples] #842121
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The thing with Leonardo is, many suspect that he's in some way, a part of the ruling panel. I think him once being a lawyer aided him in that aspect, not just being a Rizzuto but having brains. Lee Lamothe once said something interesting, he said Nicolo & Vito, while being ruthless gangsters, were educated businessmen first. Nick Jr. was always a street guy, he dropped out of school early and went straight to the streets. And because of that, his short tenure as boss was plagued with problems, because hr was the typical, blue collar street mafioso. Leonardo is cut from a similar clothe as his father, he's college educated, he's smart and he knows his way around laws in a way that those without his knowledge wouldn't. And the Rizzuto's were always run more like a corporation than a Mob family. Considering that, Leonardo would be the prime candidate and he'd be my personal first choice to sit in the bosses chair.

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It's just hard to tell on him so far, I still say the jury is still out on him but we'll see. If it's not one of the Sollecito's then it is Rizzuto for sure.

I agree that Vito always looked at profits over problems and that is what made him wildly successful I think. He has never been quick on the trigger (until his family fell) and made sure EVERYONE made money and that will get you loyalty in the criminal underworld for sure. That is why he was able to come back and watch everyone scatter like rats.


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