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Gotti had to have okayed the attempted Casso hit.. #831907
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The reason I believe this to be so is simply because both Bobby Boriello & Eddie Lino were involved, & they were very close to Gotti sr himself. Gotti jr said Uncle quack quack was put on the shelf over the unsanctioned hit- thereby putting all the blame on Ruggerio, but I'm not so readily convinced.

not saying it's untrue, but Boriello belonged to Gotti jr. With a homicidal maniac like Casso still alive (yes he has no LCN power) but u never know.... It doesn't take munch to hire a soon to be released junkie he's doing time with.. U never know with a sick guy like Gas

Also Sammy did not say Ruggerio was put on the shelf for the Casso incident. Rather he was shelved for his big mouth

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Of course gotti gave the ok. He was scared of casso so him being dead would have been a weight off his back. Then it failed and casso took revenge. Gotti was even more scared so he made peace with casso. Im sure gotti gave all the blame to angelo and others involved because thats who gotti was. He was basically a moron who thought he was smart lol

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Of course he did...however the instructions should have been kill him at any cost. Didn't he run into a Chinese restaurant of something to escape. They should have followed him in and finished the job.

Is the famous picture of Gotti, Sammy, Gas and Amuso after the failed hit and how long after ??


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That was one of the worse botched hit attempts ever!

Casso was sitting in his car eating an ice cream, I'm assuming they wanted a quick hit & run/ driveby but if your going to do it, at lease do it right

And they all paid massively for their screw up. If it wasn't right, then perhaps they should just have aborted it & regrouped

Their were seasoned guys in the car too so it's not like their first hit

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Originally Posted By: azguy
Of course he did...however the instructions should have been kill him at any cost. Didn't he run into a Chinese restaurant of something to escape. They should have followed him in and finished the job.

Is the famous picture of Gotti, Sammy, Gas and Amuso after the failed hit and how long after ??

That picture is from August 1988 so its a while after. By that time Gotti had made peace.

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Originally Posted By: JCrusher
Of course gotti gave the ok. He was scared of casso so him being dead would have been a weight off his back. Then it failed and casso took revenge. Gotti was even more scared so he made peace with casso. Im sure gotti gave all the blame to angelo and others involved because thats who gotti was. He was basically a moron who thought he was smart lol


it sure seems like with all the shooters gotti had, he at the very least would have sent the very best to clip casso.

and regardless what others say about gotti, you are right. gotti never had the brains of other bosses, he was too full of himself.

why rub it in when you win a case, angering the government who is more determined than ever to put you away.

the guy just didn't have the smarts to be a boss.



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I think Al D'Arco should have whacked Casso.


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he thought he made peace

Re: Gotti had to have okayed the attempted Casso hit.. [Re: Tonytough] #832256
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Think gotti knew but him and Angelo know the rules gotti couldn't OK killing someone in another family and when they failed to kill casso all gotti could do is blame Angelo and hurt him or shelf him

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Casso I think in 86 was still only a soldier either in amuso crew or direct with Cristy tic

Re: Gotti had to have okayed the attempted Casso hit.. [Re: azguy] #832407
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Originally Posted By: azguy
Of course he did...however the instructions should have been kill him at any cost. Didn't he run into a Chinese restaurant of something to escape. They should have followed him in and finished the job.

Is the famous picture of Gotti, Sammy, Gas and Amuso after the failed hit and how long after ??


The small strip mall where this failed hit took place exists to this day, same street layout (in terms of one way etc) also.

As I recall, Casso was hit by shotgun pellets, while the second shooter's (bad Nicky Guido, I believe) gun jammed. The car took off-- its REAL New York license plate was made (they fucked up & didn't put stolen plates on), and Casso stumbled into the Chinese restaurant.

I forget if someone called an ambulance or if he called someon to pick him and take him hospital.

As for finishing the job, it's almost certain they thought Casso was dead-- that the shotgun blast enough and that it wasn't necessary to get out of the car and check. Remember it's daylight, late afternoon, plenty of people around...

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Re: Gotti had to have okayed the attempted Casso hit.. [Re: Tonytough] #832485
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Bobby b had nothing to do with caso hit

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Re: Gotti had to have okayed the attempted Casso hit.. [Re: Tonytough] #832490
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I always thought he got taken out out of spite since he was close to Gotti.


-I shot him a coupla' times.
-What's a couple?
-Hmm, more than a couple... Really I don't know the exact amount, maybe I shot him 10 times, 12 times?
-Maybe fifteen?
-Hmm, it could've been fifteen...

-Anthony "Gaspipe" Casso
Re: Gotti had to have okayed the attempted Casso hit.. [Re: Malandrino] #832539
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correct malandrino, he was very loyal ,close jr and was thought to be in on the castellano hit..he was not.

Re: Gotti had to have okayed the attempted Casso hit.. [Re: Tonytough] #832591
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I think that Casso and the Chin were the only two guys in the Mob that Gotti actually was afraid of,although he would never show it.

Re: Gotti had to have okayed the attempted Casso hit.. [Re: Lou_Para] #832592
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true, maybe a couple more, he didn't kill gravano

Re: Gotti had to have okayed the attempted Casso hit.. [Re: bronx] #832875
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Originally Posted By: bronx
true, maybe a couple more, he didn't kill gravano
Ya know its interesting, in Casso's book he mentions that Gravano asked him how he was able to capture Hydell alive ?? I wonder if Gravano was sharp enough to think it might have been a cop who got him since there was no struggle !!

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That is what Gravano was getting at.


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Originally Posted By: Moe_Tilden
That is what Gravano was getting at.


which brings up the question did any of the other families know that casso had the two cops working for him?

what do you think moe, any one else know?



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Originally Posted By: Binnie_Coll
Originally Posted By: Moe_Tilden
That is what Gravano was getting at.


which brings up the question did any of the other families know that casso had the two cops working for him?

what do you think moe, any one else know?


Binnie, it's possible some members believed Casso had a law enforcement source, but they couldn't know if it was police, FBI, or both. Casso himself said even he didn't know who the two cops were who were supplying him the intel. I tend to believe that.


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[video:google]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8yfQLlgjeY[/video] ]Anthony "Gaspipe" Casso Interview

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