Internal war?

I know Carlo liked to stir the pot & possibly assisted financially, but do most families stay out of amother's war unless there was something to gain at the end of it

When the Columbo wars kicked off, Gotti backed Orena and would have got him accepted within the commission. But that was as far as it goes

When Stanfa was having trouble with Merlino faction & let's face it , Stanfa was put in power by the Gambino's and had his life saved when Scarfo wanted to whack him years prior. Yet when he pleaded with Tommy Gambino "all we need is 3 or 4 unknown faces" & Gambino replies," whatever U need, we're at your disposal"

But then backtracked the next time they spoke by citing his ongoing legal troubles.

I think you said it all in your post ...

I'm looking for examples from the past... We're talking Anastasia era etc. That's an area I'm not too familiar with nor do I know about the mob families outside NYC

Raymond Patriarca sent several men to assist Joe Profaci, and also to mediate the Gallo War. Nicky Bianco was the most notable but there were others.

Here is a reverse situation. Several of Stefano Magaddino's relatives left his family to join Joe Bonanno during the Banana War. It is well known that Stefano Magaddino backed Gaspare DiGregorio's faction during the Banana War. It is not believed that he sent soldiers, rather, he, Gambino, and Lucchese were content to provide legitimacy and moral support to DiGregorio while they let him do the fighting. But one of his soldiers ended up fighting in the war anyhow. Joe Bonanno appealed to Gaspare Magaddino, Stefano's cousin and a member of his crime family and successfully flipped him away from Magaddino. Gaspare went on to fight in the Banana War and killed two DiGregorio men and an innocent bystander. Gaspare was gunned down later in the year. Bonanno also poached two of Magaddino's nephews: Peter J. and a second Gaspare Magaddino. They were seen bodyguarding him while in Tuscon. So he stole 3 of his enemies' soldiers during a war.

An older example. In 1930, KC boss John Lazia sent a hit team with with future bosses Charles Binaggio and Anthony Gizzo, and Tony Casciola to Denver, Colorado. They were arrested in an apartment they rented with a cache of weaponry. Police say they were trying to help the Denver group fight the Pueblo group.

Joseph Aiuppa interfered very directly in the 80's St. Louis mob war.

I can think of more examples later.

I think gotti would have taken backhis surport to oreana in the end. After Sammy it blew up in his face that he was meddling in that family's shit and then both factions resented him. Persico was still boss 10 years after gotti death. At least in name and still getting his cutt. Think some other family was pissed probably chin and amuso nowinf gotti was trying to get colombos and massino. Weird part the Colombo shooting stated in 1991 gottis locked up but still sending a list of 25 Colombo guys the gambinos were not to do any biz with first name was Michael persico and the rest.

Good examples BarrettM, keep them coming if u have anymore

Oh Sammy & Milito were sent by Paul to assist Nicky scarfo, I always thought scarfo was aligned with the Genovese but guess he had a good working relation with the Gambino's too

Scarfo knew that his power beyond AC was void and that NY commanded so have a good relationship with two of the strongest families was a smart move.

The Genovese helped the cleveland family in the war against Danny Greene,in the first time don't helping Nardi and Greene when the came in 1977 in NY and second time through Ray Ferritto.

I've always felt, and still do, that Joe Bonanno and Maggadino were as thick as thieves. They just wanted everyone to believe they were enemies so they could spy on each camp.

The story you tell above doesn't surprise me one bit. It sounds every bit as suspicious as the ridiculous kidnap fairytale Joe Bonanno made up where Stefano sent men to get him, Godfather style ("get in the car Consigliere"). By pretending to be polar opposites, Joe Bonanno could spy on the Conservative branch of the Commission and report back to Stefano, and Stefano could spy and listen in on the Liberal branch of the Commission, and report back to Joe.

As for the question as to when/whether Bosses assisted internal wars...I can't think of one conflict easily that did not have an external instigator.

Even the 3rd Colombo War, which author Peter Lance insists was initiated by the government and not Vic Orena, even that conflict had the fingerprints of bosses on it. Orena had backing from other bosses beyond Carmine Persico to wreak his mischief. What it looks like is that Orena tried to take over the Colombo Family...without firing a shot. And it didn't work out that way.

All credit to B. on the Black Hand forum and the excellent Philly posters there.

Carlo Gambino and Tommy Lucchese backed the Gallo brothers in their rebellion against Joe Profaci. They saw an opportunity to change the power balance on the commission, in advantage to the liberal faction they represented. Profaci was considered conservative and a close ally to Joe Bonnano. By replacing Profaci with (Larry) Gallo they would have strengthen their power.

The commission turned down their effort to retire Profaci, but then he died of cancer some 6 months after the commission meeting. Joseph Magliocco who became new Profaci boss was much weaker and couldnt put an end to the Gallo conflict and so it continued.

I think this is a pretty good example of how mafia politics back then worked and a good example of how families intervened in other families business in order to capitalize. Shark eat shark..

Was PROFACI poisioned ?