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Did Vincent asaro mouth seal his fate? #800248
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Tommy di fiore is mad at Vincent for badmouthing him and saying his name on tape, when this is all over what is asaro's future?


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Originally Posted By: thebigfella
Tommy di fiore is mad at Vincent for badmouthing him and saying his name on tape, when this is all over what is asaro's future?

Prison. It's the end of the line. He's going to die in jail.


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Asaro is in his 70s, and facing what, 20 years? Death sentence like PB said.

Difiore has his own problems to worry about. I am sure Asaros taped words is the least of his problems. Wiseguys have been caught badmouthing each other on tape for years.

I would have paid to be a fly on the wall when the tapes were played to gotti and gravano of him badmouthing sammy lol

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Well put Blackjack2121!

Re: Did Vincent asaro mouth seal his fate? [Re: thebigfella] #800381
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He was already shelved for a big mouth

Now he will die in prison cuz of it as PB said

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When was asaro shelved?


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Lufthansa Case Collapses for the Feds


The recent Lufthansa news, beginning with street boss Thomas "Tommy D" DiFiore's successful motion for separation, something virtually unheard of in racketeering cases involving multiple members of a single crime family, makes for three recent New York Mafia cases in which the Feds' once promising indictments slowly crumbled and ended up a shadow of what they were supposed to be.

As for the other two: one involved reputed Gambino crime-family associate Daniel Fama, who faced charges that were eventually dropped for allegedly driving the getaway car in the 1990 gangland hit on Edward "Eddie the ch*nk" Garofalo ordered by then Gambino boss John Gotti; the other was the "Papa Smurf" case involving a three-family panel trying to take control of the waste hauling business in the tri-state area.


One source told us in an interesting conversation before he went off to serve time that the nickname "Papa Smurf" had been fabricated by the pederast informant himself. Carmine Fatico was occasionally called "Papa" and "Papa Bear" by those closest to him as a term of endearment and, apparently, the wired informer -- whose job was to deliberately engage "Papa" in arguments and physical confrontations to prompt him to issue incriminating threats -- thought he'd create a clever and insulting spin on it, the source said.

The Lufthansa case was so intriguing, recalling the film Goodfellas, complete with papparazzi films and photos of five different gangsters forced into the notorious "perp walk." Even the acting boss had been caught! However, all along only one gangster was actually facing charges for the storied heist masterminded by the one and only James "Jimmy the Gent" Burke...


As a result of what can only be a lack of hard evidence ensuring draconian sentences four of the five Bonanno gangsters swept up in the January bust are negotiating plea deals to settle their cases, according to a Brooklyn federal court filing.Vinny Asaro, the one who benefitted (though he'd consider that arguable) from the Lufthansa heist back in the 1970s will now face the music all alone. He will go on trial for a slew of raps including murder and racketeering in addition to Lufthansa. He faces life behind bars.

Vinny's son, Bonanno captain Jerome Asaro, 56, also faced life behind bars, but was able to plead guilty in Brooklyn Federal court yesterday (to digging up a years-buried corpse). He can get up to eight years, newspapers reported.Lawyers for three of Asaro’s co-defendants — acting capo Jack Bonventre, soldier John Ragano and DiFiore — had been granted severance from charges related to the 1978 JFK robbery when a judge agreed it was too prejudicial and that the three had nothing to do with the crime.

They successfully had their cases severed from Asaro’s and are now hammering out deals, according to a filing by DiFiore’s ­attorney, Steve Zissou, the New York Post reported.
Vincent Asaro allegedly had a man suspected of being a stoolie killed in 1969 as a favor to Burke.

http://www.cosanostranews.com/2014/10/lufthansa-case-collapses-for-feds.html#more

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Read he's in bad shape. Dementia. Might be playing chin card. Coming c was saying he was shelved I bet he didn't even know him. How can you shelve that old gangster plus his kid was a capo anyway. Probably won't be a trial. But the feds put some old Colombo guy to trial he would sleep in court didn't know were he was and the judge gave him house arrest anyway think it was leto. He was around gotti and the ravenite pics alot

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its either your mouth or someone else's that mouth that jams you up..you do something , never talk about it again..some just never learn..they like the way their voice sounds..

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Originally Posted By: bronx
its either your mouth or someone else's that mouth that jams you up..you do something , never talk about it again..some just never learn..they like the way their voice sounds..

You beat me to it, Bronx. What I was gonna say was, Every time you talk about a crime you're committing it again wink.


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Re: Did Vincent asaro mouth seal his fate? [Re: pizzaboy] #808155
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jumping back on the R.I.CO. train

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Personally I haven't seen much that is solid evidence regards Asaro's charges.

Think the case is weak and wouldn't surprise me if he gets off or a sweet plea.


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Did Feds Have Hidden Agenda in Targeting Asaro?

We found some interesting information about Vinny Asaro that makes us wonder if the Feds had a reason to specifically target him for what seemed to be 30-year-old charges, including the much vaunted Lufthansa Heist celebrated in the film Goodfellas.

Vinny Asaro was put up for boss of the Bonanno crime family in late 2011 due to pressure from the family's Sicilian faction in the wake of a mob hit up in Montreal. Apparently he had the support of three crime families at the time: the Luchese, Gambino and Genovese families.

A relative of Asaro's began wearing a wire in 2012. A coincidence? Maybe. We tend not to believe in coincidences when the Feds and Mafia are involved.

Vincent "Vinny" Asaro as noted will be the only one to go to trial for a range of crimes, including racketeering and murder charges. Four of the five Bonanno gangsters swept up in the January bust are negotiating plea deals to settle their cases. Asaro faces life behind bars.

Read more: http://www.cosanostranews.com/2014/10/did-feds-have-hidden-agenda-in.html#more

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do you know when will the judgment nicholas Santora and his team

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Seriously...if you're in this life and you commit a crime, why open your mouth again? Look to the future... don't relive the past...

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Originally Posted By: miklo
do you know when will the judgment nicholas Santora and his team


the latest on that case was a few months ago when santora turned down his plea deal, i don't think a trial date has been set yet. I assume his codefendants are also trying to negotiate plea deals. one of the other guys, anthony santoro, was offered a deal for 9 to 18 years, his lawyer says he will also probably reject it.


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Originally Posted By: NNY78

Monday, October 13, 2014


Did Feds Have Hidden Agenda in Targeting Asaro?

We found some interesting information about Vinny Asaro that makes us wonder if the Feds had a reason to specifically target him for what seemed to be 30-year-old charges, including the much vaunted Lufthansa Heist celebrated in the film Goodfellas.

Vinny Asaro was put up for boss of the Bonanno crime family in late 2011 due to pressure from the family's Sicilian faction in the wake of a mob hit up in Montreal. Apparently he had the support of three crime families at the time: the Luchese, Gambino and Genovese families.

A relative of Asaro's began wearing a wire in 2012. A coincidence? Maybe. We tend not to believe in coincidences when the Feds and Mafia are involved.

Vincent "Vinny" Asaro as noted will be the only one to go to trial for a range of crimes, including racketeering and murder charges. Four of the five Bonanno gangsters swept up in the January bust are negotiating plea deals to settle their cases. Asaro faces life behind bars.

Read more: http://www.cosanostranews.com/2014/10/did-feds-have-hidden-agenda-in.html#more


So we have some saying Asaro was shelved and others claiming he was the next boss?

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think his kid have a better chance being tapd as next boss. Im guessing its that guy mikey nose, but asaros on tape saying to his cousin yaeh the new boss is a long island guy ect didn't say if hes acting or not. but cant think vinnny georgeous would be allowed in this day in age to be boss well doing life and he was never appointed by the capos as official boss on the street. perisco and amuso or still holding that tittle but they were official bosses on the street. didn't some one get caught on tape saying massino voice don't count no more and that was the end of vinnys power from jail.

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if asaro was a capo he had to vote for tommy d to be the real boss so I think who ever it is has the power in that family to put tommy there.

Re: Did Vincent asaro mouth seal his fate? [Re: mulberry] #808427
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Originally Posted By: mulberry
Originally Posted By: NNY78

Monday, October 13, 2014


Did Feds Have Hidden Agenda in Targeting Asaro?

We found some interesting information about Vinny Asaro that makes us wonder if the Feds had a reason to specifically target him for what seemed to be 30-year-old charges, including the much vaunted Lufthansa Heist celebrated in the film Goodfellas.

Vinny Asaro was put up for boss of the Bonanno crime family in late 2011 due to pressure from the family's Sicilian faction in the wake of a mob hit up in Montreal. Apparently he had the support of three crime families at the time: the Luchese, Gambino and Genovese families.

A relative of Asaro's began wearing a wire in 2012. A coincidence? Maybe. We tend not to believe in coincidences when the Feds and Mafia are involved.

Vincent "Vinny" Asaro as noted will be the only one to go to trial for a range of crimes, including racketeering and murder charges. Four of the five Bonanno gangsters swept up in the January bust are negotiating plea deals to settle their cases. Asaro faces life behind bars.

Read more: http://www.cosanostranews.com/2014/10/did-feds-have-hidden-agenda-in.html#more


So we have some saying Asaro was shelved and others claiming he was the next boss?


Mulberry did you notice the very last line in the article

"Word is, Vinny Basciano is still the boss of the Bonanno family".

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Originally Posted By: mulberry
Originally Posted By: NNY78

Monday, October 13, 2014


Did Feds Have Hidden Agenda in Targeting Asaro?

We found some interesting information about Vinny Asaro that makes us wonder if the Feds had a reason to specifically target him for what seemed to be 30-year-old charges, including the much vaunted Lufthansa Heist celebrated in the film Goodfellas.

Vinny Asaro was put up for boss of the Bonanno crime family in late 2011 due to pressure from the family's Sicilian faction in the wake of a mob hit up in Montreal. Apparently he had the support of three crime families at the time: the Luchese, Gambino and Genovese families.

A relative of Asaro's began wearing a wire in 2012. A coincidence? Maybe. We tend not to believe in coincidences when the Feds and Mafia are involved.

Vincent "Vinny" Asaro as noted will be the only one to go to trial for a range of crimes, including racketeering and murder charges. Four of the five Bonanno gangsters swept up in the January bust are negotiating plea deals to settle their cases. Asaro faces life behind bars.

Read more: http://www.cosanostranews.com/2014/10/did-feds-have-hidden-agenda-in.html#more


So we have some saying Asaro was shelved and others claiming he was the next boss?


Vinny Asaro got demoted to soldier a while back and his son, Jerome took over the crew, Vinny hates Jerry for stepping up and having to take orders from him. DiFiore brought him back into the fold and onto a 3 man panel running the family in 2012. Then the next thing we know Asaro is caught on tape talking shit about DiFiore lol

The guy is a piece of shit and a bitter old man.

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Him looking like Freddy isn't going to help him at a jury trial. One look at his old mugshot you can tell he's a straight up alcoholic.


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Somebody at another forum posted a link to an article which contained snippets of an interview with PB's favorite mob turncoat, Dom Cicale, where he claims to know where some of the Lufthansa money went. Basically, he says that Catherine - Jimmy Burke's daughter and Bruno Indelicato's wife - loaned the remainder of the money (around 800k) to her husband and Vinny Gorgeous for a business venture. Vinny supposedly blew 500k of it on sports betting and casinos.

Dom also claims that Vinny personally owes him more than a million dollars and that Vinny Asaro was shelved at the time of his bust.

http://thecrimebeat.com/exclusive-happen...t-missing-loot/

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Let's be honest, Asaro wasn't dumb or loose by mob standards. We live in an era where phones of citizens are tapped by intelligence orgs , much less OC members (I could make a case that any regular poster on this site is equally at risk for being looked at by these orgs). Half of the "stand up guys" we praise as being better at The Life would be equally as fucked if they were faced with today's cell phones and scrutiny as a cost of doing business. We inaccurately put them on a pedestal in my opinion.


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Originally Posted By: Snakes
Somebody at another forum posted a link to an article which contained snippets of an interview with PB's favorite mob turncoat, Dom Cicale, where he claims to know where some of the Lufthansa money went. Basically, he says that Catherine - Jimmy Burke's daughter and Bruno Indelicato's wife - loaned the remainder of the money (around 800k) to her husband and Vinny Gorgeous for a business venture. Vinny supposedly blew 500k of it on sports betting and casinos.

Dom also claims that Vinny personally owes him more than a million dollars and that Vinny Asaro was shelved at the time of his bust.

http://thecrimebeat.com/exclusive-happen...t-missing-loot/

a) That asshole was ten or eleven years old when they ripped off Lufthansa.

b) Vinny A being shelved is common knowledge. And not just "in the neighborhood," but in the media as well. In short, it's old news.

C) I won't comment on the rest of that nonsense because that would mean that I read the article. Not gonna happen.

But just for shits and giggles, someone ask Dom why, at the time of his arrest, did he owe money to half of Pelham Bay, when he claims to have made and had access to millions. In particular, ask him if that poor sap on Jarvis and Middletown is ever gonna get his money back. Millions of dollars, blah blah blah. Met senators and politicians, blah blah blah. Had the ear of every skipper in the Bronx, blah blah blah.

He's a lying brokester, and he's been a rat all his life. From way back in his Florida days, where the Florida District Attorney SEALED HIS PLEA. This in a state where they'd give you the needle for robbing a Publix if they could get away with it. Yet they sealed Dom's plea. He's been a rat all his life. He was born to low rent white trash, and he hasn't bettered himself in the least.


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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Originally Posted By: Snakes
Somebody at another forum posted a link to an article which contained snippets of an interview with PB's favorite mob turncoat, Dom Cicale, where he claims to know where some of the Lufthansa money went. Basically, he says that Catherine - Jimmy Burke's daughter and Bruno Indelicato's wife - loaned the remainder of the money (around 800k) to her husband and Vinny Gorgeous for a business venture. Vinny supposedly blew 500k of it on sports betting and casinos.

Dom also claims that Vinny personally owes him more than a million dollars and that Vinny Asaro was shelved at the time of his bust.

http://thecrimebeat.com/exclusive-happen...t-missing-loot/

a) That asshole was ten or eleven years old when they ripped off Lufthansa.

b) Vinny A being shelved being is common knowledge. And not just "in the neighborhood," but in the media as well. In short, it's old news.

C) I won't comment on the rest of that nonsense because that would mean that I read the article. Not gonna happen.

But just for shits and giggles, someone ask Dom why, at the time of his arrest, did he owe money to half of Pelham Bay, when he claims to have made and had access to millions. In particular, ask him if that poor sap on Jarvis and Middletown is ever gonna get his money back. Millions of dollars, blah blah blah. Met senators and politicians, blah blah blah. Had the ear of every skipper in the Bronx, blah blah blah.

He's a lying brokester, and he's been a rat all his life, from way back in his Florida days. Where the Florida District Attorney SEALED HIS PLEA. This in a state where they'd give you the needle for robbing a Publix if they could get away with it. Yet they sealed Dom's plea. He's been a rat all his life. He was born to low rent white trash, and he hasn't bettered himself in the least.


That was hysterical old man lol


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Originally Posted By: pimpanella
That was hysterical old man lol

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Re: Did Vincent asaro mouth seal his fate? [Re: thebigfella] #829077
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Any one no what the new superceding indictments against this old guy are. Like the case must be week if there finding new 30yr old charges to hit him with the guys on his last leg. Give it a break he's a soldier hated in his family in the weakest family in NY . don't they got some other guy to get. There 3 bosses on the street for the first time in 30yrs. His trial gonna fizzle out. He croaks there dumb. His trial will cost the same as whiteys like 10 million for shit.

Re: Did Vincent asaro mouth seal his fate? [Re: thebigfella] #829078
02/17/15 04:23 PM
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You can't punish people over 80 just takes there dentures and put them in a home.

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