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Re: Outfit Bosses Question ?
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Re: Outfit Bosses Question ?
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Re: Outfit Bosses Question ?
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I think the media is quite silly to take the word if one unknown/unnamed informant. For all we know it was some low level associate in Cicero who had no clue the structure. Not to mention if he felt abandoned, it probably means the guy was shelved for one reason or another. To be fair, the media reported what was in a fed affidavit and was pretty dismissive of that particular source's claim. It was Johnson who didn't read the news article all the way through. Yep. I'm not sure why some have found it hard to believe Sarno was acting boss. That's what the FBI had him as, just like they did Marcello before him. And both of them being from the same crew probably isn't a coincidence.
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Re: Outfit Bosses Question ?
[Re: GaryMartin]
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They weren't really necessarily from the same crew though. The Cicero crew is an entity unto itself, in that it is composed of two separate factions: The Carlisi/Marcello Crew & the Ferriola/Infelise Crew. These two factions became even more separated & distant following the incarcerations of their upper echelon members. This became evident when the Ferriola/Infelise faction (DeLaurentis, Inendino, Marino, Sarno) knocked down Big Tony Chiaramonti & Little Tony Zizzo. (Carlisi/Marcello crew members), and in doing so, claimed the entire Cicero/Berwyn/Melrose Park territory for themselves. Prior to this taking place, there were two "bosses" of Cicero. Mike Sarno, who was acting on behalf of his superiors who were incarcerated at the time, and Little Tony Zizzo, who was acting boss on behalf of Jimmy Marcello while he was imprisoned. They were 100% equals.
Mike Sarno was a member of the Rocky Infelise crew. He worked under a guy named Bobby Salerno, who worked under a guy named Lou Marino, who worked under a guy by the name of Solly DeLaurentis. So yeah, it's quite obvious that he was just holding down the fort until Jimmy I & Solly D got home.
People get confused because the Cicero crew is the only Outfit family large enough that it had to be split up into two factions to cover the territory. This isn't the case with any of the other crews, which operate under one boss/panel.
You have to disregard a lot of what the feds put out there for the public. The feds largely go off of information they obtain via low level informants. These informants aren't privy to high level information/hierarchies.
Hope that helps clear some stuff up regarding Mike Sarnos place within the Outfit.
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Re: Outfit Bosses Question ?
[Re: HuronSocialAthletic]
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They weren't really necessarily from the same crew though. The Cicero crew is an entity unto itself, in that it is composed of two separate factions: The Carlisi/Marcello Crew & the Ferriola/Infelise Crew. These two factions became even more separated & distant following the incarcerations of their upper echelon members. This became evident when the Ferriola/Infelise faction (DeLaurentis, Inendino, Marino, Sarno) knocked down Big Tony Chiaramonti & Little Tony Zizzo. (Carlisi/Marcello crew members), and in doing so, claimed the entire Cicero/Berwyn/Melrose Park territory for themselves. Prior to this taking place, there were two "bosses" of Cicero. Mike Sarno, who was acting on behalf of his superiors who were incarcerated at the time, and Little Tony Zizzo, who was acting boss on behalf of Jimmy Marcello while he was imprisoned. They were 100% equals.
Mike Sarno was a member of the Rocky Infelise crew. He worked under a guy named Bobby Salerno, who worked under a guy named Lou Marino, who worked under a guy by the name of Solly DeLaurentis. So yeah, it's quite obvious that he was just holding down the fort until Jimmy I & Solly D got home.
People get confused because the Cicero crew is the only Outfit family large enough that it had to be split up into two factions to cover the territory. This isn't the case with any of the other crews, which operate under one boss/panel.
You have to disregard a lot of what the feds put out there for the public. The feds largely go off of information they obtain via low level informants. These informants aren't privy to high level information/hierarchies.
Hope that helps clear some stuff up regarding Mike Sarnos place within the Outfit. the outfit is so secretive that theyre not privy to the information but you are, yeah right
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Re: Outfit Bosses Question ?
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Re: Outfit Bosses Question ?
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Re: Outfit Bosses Question ?
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Makes sense to me. So Marino answered to Solly D?
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Re: Outfit Bosses Question ?
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Marino was Infelise's #2 when he ran Cicero. Solly D was underneath him. That's what I was thinking. Going to be interesting to see what happens when he gets released...I would presume he would be very near the top.
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Re: Outfit Bosses Question ?
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Marino was Infelise's #2 when he ran Cicero. Solly D was underneath him. That's what I was thinking. Going to be interesting to see what happens when he gets released...I would presume he would be very near the top. He would definitely at the very least be the #3 guy, a good chance of #2 also. Just depends if he wants it or not.
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Re: Outfit Bosses Question ?
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Re: Outfit Bosses Question ?
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