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Re: Who was tougher John Gotti or Gene
[Re: Tonytough]
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I would say john cause gene listed to his brother and didn't take a plea.
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Re: Who was tougher John Gotti or Gene
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Joh Gotti was mans man…a true tough guy. Yeah, maybe if you consider being an ego-maniac, wannabe celebrity who craved media attention, with out of control spending and a gambling addiction a "man's man...a true tough guy". :lol" John Stanfa is correct it's "Like Kindergarten over here" and none of these guys would make it in Italy or Sicily.
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Re: Who was tougher John Gotti or Gene
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Gene is still down here in Louisiana, He should be out soon yes? 2018. If he took the plea that his brother shot down, he'd have been home ten years ago.
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Re: Who was tougher John Gotti or Gene
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Joh Gotti was mans man…a true tough guy. Yeah, maybe if you consider being an ego-maniac, wannabe celebrity who craved media attention, with out of control spending and a gambling addiction a "man's man...a true tough guy". :lol" John Stanfa is correct it's "Like Kindergarten over here" and none of these guys would make it in Italy or Sicily. It was a joke...
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Re: Who was tougher John Gotti or Gene
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Gene is still down here in Louisiana, He should be out soon yes? 2018. If he took the plea that his brother shot down, he'd have been home ten years ago. 100% that's got to be a hard pill to swallow
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Re: Who was tougher John Gotti or Gene
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Gene is still down here in Louisiana, He should be out soon yes? 2018. If he took the plea that his brother shot down, he'd have been home ten years ago. You think he wakes up every morning and thinks about it? Or a guy like that doesn't even care. Is he in the same place as Carnig? PB. I know we both share a passion with literature. Did u read the book on Charlie Carnig? What did u think?
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Re: Who was tougher John Gotti or Gene
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You think he wakes up every morning and thinks about it? Or a guy like that doesn't even care. Is he in the same place as Carnig? It has to bother him. It's human nature. He has to resent his brother to some degree. And I know that Genie's in Louisiana. And last I heard, Carneglia was somewhere in the northeast. But I'm not sure where. PB. I know we both share a passion with literature. Did u read the book on Charlie Carnig? What did u think?
I think that book wasn't literature  . DeStefano showed SO MUCH promise as a mob journalist with the Massino book. But his books about Charlie Carneglia and Vinny were a swing and a miss. In my opinion, anyway  .
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Re: Who was tougher John Gotti or Gene
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If Gene did take that deal, you think John would have had him whacked? IMO i don't think so. He should have took it.
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Re: Who was tougher John Gotti or Gene
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You think he wakes up every morning and thinks about it? Or a guy like that doesn't even care. Is he in the same place as Carnig? It has to bother him. It's human nature. He has to resent his brother to some degree. And I know that Genie's in Louisiana. And last I heard, Carneglia was somewhere in the northeast. But I'm not sure where. PB. I know we both share a passion with literature. Did u read the book on Charlie Carnig? What did u think?
I think that book wasn't literature  . DeStefano showed SO MUCH promise as a mob journalist with the Massino book. But his books about Charlie Carneglia and Vinny were a swing and a miss. In my opinion, anyway  . Massino's book was well researched i thought. hated Basciano's book...it reminded me of a wiki article. the only thing i liked about carnigs book was the history of queens and ozone park.
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Re: Who was tougher John Gotti or Gene
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Why do people create these threads? Who do some people get so anal about certain threads
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Re: Who was tougher John Gotti or Gene
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If Gene doesn't die in prison and he does come home soon.. Do u think hell just be inactive retire? or will hav som clout If he's smart hung them up after close to 30 years in the can.
From now on, nothing goes down unless I'm involved. No blackjack no dope deals, no nothing. A nickel bag gets sold in the park, I want in. You guys got fat while everybody starved on the street. Now it's my turn.
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Re: Who was tougher John Gotti or Gene
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John was quite jealous of gene according to some mobsters close to them. Gene was made before John and he was a lucky gambler while we all know John lost thousands all the time And furthermore, Gene wasn't the dummy that some erroneous news reports would have you believe. Even the HBO movie tried to make him look responsible for a lot of John's problems, when in actuality he was pretty sharp. And the truth is, John had no one to blame for his problems but John.
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Re: Who was tougher John Gotti or Gene
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05/18/14 02:10 PM
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Sorry from the replies I've noticed some assume I was asking who was the tougher between john and gene physically. I should have been more clear, what I was trying to discuss is who was tougher in terms of ruthlessness, temper or like sammy said "gene had a real mean streak"
But I thought this was clear since most on here are seasoned pro's on mob lingo
You'll hear so and so talking about "how tough Scarfo was" for example . And I don't think they're referring to how many people he could ko in rd 1 like Tyson did (yes I'm aware Scarfo did boxing early on) but u get my point
If we were talking physical tough then Willie Boy would have knocked out both gene and john together
In Lou Ferrante's book he said," not every boss is a tough guy because most make it there from using their brains, but there are plenty of guys who never make it to the top but are stone cold killers and much more dangerous than the bosses"
So between John and Gene, from the bits of information over the years gene was possibly the more dangerous between the two brothers
Last edited by Tonytough; 05/18/14 02:21 PM.
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