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legal juice loans #777292
05/12/14 08:54 PM
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Does anybody know about legal juice loans?The wiseguys pose as a check cashing joint and legally loan cash at a high rate. I heard they exist all over from florida to new york.


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Re: legal juice loans [Re: bobbyvegas] #777311
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Re: legal juice loans [Re: bobbyvegas] #777312
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They have credit cards for those with bad credit.

They give you a 700 dollar credit line. They charge you up front for it 150 dollars so it leave with 550 credit line. Annual interest rate is over 30 percent.

Nice scam for people who's back is against the wall.


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Re: legal juice loans [Re: bobbyvegas] #777313
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The russian mafia is into mortgage loans that are not fixed. The broker gets a taste of any loan they bring to them. They go under the name of Power express.


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Re: legal juice loans [Re: Footreads] #777314
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Originally Posted By: Footreads
They have credit cards for those with bad credit.

They give you a 700 dollar credit line. They charge you up front for it 150 dollars so it leave with 550 credit line. Annual interest rate is over 30 percent.

Nice scam for people who's back is against the wall.

You have to be pretty desperate to agree to $150 worth of debt BEFORE you even make a charge of your own. But these fly-by-night banks are able to get away with it by being based in states that aren't strictly regulated.


"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
Re: legal juice loans [Re: bobbyvegas] #777315
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You know how shys handled people who could not pay or did not get in touch with them when they could not pay.

Someone would go to their house. They went when the guy was not at home. So they would talk to his wife. They would tell her their husband took a loan and was late. While they talking their looking over their house.

Then they would take something that they owned. Like a pair of lamps and told them tell their husband.

Then no one gets in touch with them they go back. This time with a moving van. Nothing they take their furniture out of the house.

Still no one they go back hand make her give them a blow job. Then tell her he does not come up with the money. They will put her out on the street to work for them until they are paid off.

I have seen the local shy hit an old women because she did not have a 5 dollar payment.


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Re: legal juice loans [Re: pizzaboy] #777325
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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Originally Posted By: Footreads
They have credit cards for those with bad credit.

They give you a 700 dollar credit line. They charge you up front for it 150 dollars so it leave with 550 credit line. Annual interest rate is over 30 percent.

Nice scam for people who's back is against the wall.

You have to be pretty desperate to agree to $150 worth of debt BEFORE you even make a charge of your own. But these fly-by-night banks are able to get away with it by being based in states that aren't strictly regulated.


People do it to get a credit history again. Use it make payments your credit score goes up


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Re: legal juice loans [Re: Footreads] #777331
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Originally Posted By: Footreads
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Originally Posted By: Footreads
They have credit cards for those with bad credit.

They give you a 700 dollar credit line. They charge you up front for it 150 dollars so it leave with 550 credit line. Annual interest rate is over 30 percent.

Nice scam for people who's back is against the wall.

You have to be pretty desperate to agree to $150 worth of debt BEFORE you even make a charge of your own. But these fly-by-night banks are able to get away with it by being based in states that aren't strictly regulated.


People do it to get a credit history again. Use it make payments your credit score goes up

Yeah, I guess. But there are MUCH better ways to rebuild your credit. Instead of answering the ad for First Premier Bank, or whatever they're called, you're much better off opening a secured credit card with a reputable bank like Bank of America or Wells Fargo. Your line of credit is equal to your initial deposit, and they report to all three major credit agencies.

But that's only if your sole motivation is rebuilding your credit. If you're desperate, like you said, you'll pay the $150 to get the $550. It's sad. It's also the reason that most low income people never break the poverty cycle.


"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
Re: legal juice loans [Re: Footreads] #777343
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Originally Posted By: Footreads
You know how shys handled people who could not pay or did not get in touch with them when they could not pay.

Someone would go to their house. They went when the guy was not at home. So they would talk to his wife. They would tell her their husband took a loan and was late. While they talking their looking over their house.

Then they would take something that they owned. Like a pair of lamps and told them tell their husband.

Then no one gets in touch with them they go back. This time with a moving van. Nothing they take their furniture out of the house.

Still no one they go back hand make her give them a blow job. Then tell her he does not come up with the money. They will put her out on the street to work for them until they are paid off.

I have seen the local shy hit an old women because she did not have a 5 dollar payment.



For the record i love your posts, keepem coming...a little hard to read at first but im starting to decipher it. love it cool


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Re: legal juice loans [Re: bobbyvegas] #777401
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People think I was not born here that try to read my writing smile


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Re: legal juice loans [Re: bobbyvegas] #777415
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I've skimmed articles about how some Native American/indigenous groups here are able to loan money and charge rates that are basically shylock rates.


Not complaining and more power to them...but legally how are the able to do this?




As Americans we have VERY little taught to us in public school system about financial literacy. The danger in that is that most of our habits...eating,spending,lifestyle are pretty much copied from the people who raise us. Poorer people are going to feel the consequences of bad money habits sooner than others the bad money habits eventually catch up to everybody.


Payday loans, check cashing joints, rent-a centers just provide services to people

Re: legal juice loans [Re: getthesenets] #777418
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Originally Posted By: getthesenets
The danger in that is that most of our habits...eating,spending,lifestyle are pretty much copied from the people who raise us.

It's a vicious cycle, like the revolving door to prison passed on from fathers to sons. But neither am I excusing it a hundred percent, either. It's up to the individual to break the chain. We can only blame what we were born into to a degree.


"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
Re: legal juice loans [Re: pizzaboy] #777423
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The danger in that is that most of our habits...eating,spending,lifestyle are pretty much copied from the people who raise us.

It's a vicious cycle, like the revolving door to prison passed on from fathers to sons. But neither am I excusing it a hundred percent, either. It's up to the individual to break the chain. We can only blame what we were born into to a degree.


Wasn't meant as a excuse as we are conscious adults, but say...people who earn tons more than their parents ever did....yet end up with no assets.....like some pro athletes...or people who are first generation professionals drowning in debt.

Re: legal juice loans [Re: bobbyvegas] #777427
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Some people just love to gamble. There were people who owned their own stores in a shopping mall. They were borrowing money from the security guards that worked in the mall.


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Re: legal juice loans [Re: getthesenets] #779147
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Originally Posted By: getthesenets
I've skimmed articles about how some Native American/indigenous groups here are able to loan money and charge rates that are basically shylock rates.


Not complaining and more power to them...but legally how are the able to do this?




As Americans we have VERY little taught to us in public school system about financial literacy. The danger in that is that most of our habits...eating,spending,lifestyle are pretty much copied from the people who raise us. Poorer people are going to feel the consequences of bad money habits sooner than others the bad money habits eventually catch up to everybody.


Payday loans, check cashing joints, rent-a centers just provide services to people


Gets, good question, my guess would be its legal for a couple of reasons, first The Natives business sits on reservation land which the feds have little control over and also the gray areas of the interstate commerce laws as they apply to the internet. There are several casinos down here on reservation land, lots of folks go there to buy their cigarettes because the Natives don't pay any taxes personally and business wise however the feds make sure they get a piece of their casino operations even though they are on resevation land.

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NNY,

thanks. I didn't think that the unique rights/status of native americans extended to these high interest loan companies.

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I bet any amount of wampum if these loans are made by Indians their biggest customers are other poor Indians.


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Re: legal juice loans [Re: Footreads] #779186
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Originally Posted By: Footreads
I bet any amount of wampum if these loans are made by Indians their biggest customers are other poor Indians.

It's the American way to exploit your own kind. Just like wiseguys have always exploited other poor Italian Americans.


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That's right.


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Re: legal juice loans [Re: Footreads] #779197
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Footreads, I can't speak about the Native Americans plight outside of Florida , but down here each member of the tribe shares in the profits of the casinos which is substantial. While there is still social problems on the reservations here, they are much better off financially these days than most.

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Really I think I have some Indian blood in me some where. If I send the tribe a suit case can they fill it up with money and send it back. smile


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Originally Posted By: Footreads
Really I think I have some Indian blood in me some where. If I send the tribe a suit case can they fill it up with money and send it back. smile


Well, this guy was actually Italian, so anything's possible lol.



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He was chief of the Fakarwi tribe.

They used to wonder round going 'Where the Fuckarewe?"


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Originally Posted By: Footreads
Really I think I have some Indian blood in me some where. If I send the tribe a suit case can they fill it up with money and send it back. smile



Foot,
There was a Time cover story years ago about Casino industry and Native groups.

Sad but funny story was told by one of the subjects.

He looks visibly "Native American" and got picked on and got into fights because of people disrespecting him for being who and what he is. Nobody ever helped him or had his back as he was the only "Indian" at his high school.


Years later, the casino deals pass and I guess people have to stand in line at some govt. bureau to fill out paperwork to get their share of the revenue. He said he saw lot of people from high school who used to see him get ass beat/ridiculed without helping him standing in line to sign up for the money.

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article about the Attorney General of NY getting Western Sky/Payday to settle lawsuit over illegal interest rates for loans


http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304856504579339200520267422

I read that they were sued because people NEVER agreed to three points on top of the Vig


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Originally Posted By: Footreads
Really I think I have some Indian blood in me some where. If I send the tribe a suit case can they fill it up with money and send it back. smile




Footreads, I thought you guys up North were already getting an envelope every month wink


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