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Uhm, no.

I think he is referring to cases like Frank Buccieri or Anthony Pinelli, who were both made in Chicago but were sent out west to "look after" the San Diego and L.A. families respectively. Although technically, they weren't a member of both families simultaneously.

Fair enough .

The Arm claimed to be made in the Lucchese, Gambino, Bonanno, Genovese, Colombo and DeCavalcante families at the same time and he also claimed to have been a shooter in the Galante, Luongo and Castellano hits so.... maybe?

You mean he wasn't?

Clearly that's BS, just like this: http://www.amazon.com/Born-Mob-True-Life-Story-Families/dp/1560255595

It was a joke, Cornuto. The Arm was an insane poster who was here before you. He was eventually banned.

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It would be a poor financial decision for an up and comer to be made and work for 2 families at once. The families pretty much work together and settle disputes (relatively) amicably these past few decades. Many associates find themselves doing business with men of different families. IF the books open and there's new blood, a button is going to be given to the best earners (or in some cases good enforcers/ guys who will kill anything). Once you're made, you've just officially joined the largest multigenerational pyramid scheme in American history. Whoever is your new skipper is the guy who you owe every week.

So if you were made in a second family, you would owe 2 skippers every week. Since a guy can only scam X amount of hours and dollars per week, there would be less pie to go around to each master. I'm no wise guy, but I wouldn't want to be having to scam for 2 different Captains.

I don't see a guy being allowed to be in more than one Family.
At some point in the traditional making ceremony,the new initiate is told that the Family must come above all else. Even if a guy's mother or child is dying,if he is called,he must leave their bedside. No way he can take that oath for more than one Family.
As far as an associate,maybe from time to time he does some deals with guys from different Families,but once they burn the saint,he is no longer a free agent.

not only that but the entire point of becoming made is to protect you from being fucked with by other families. being made in another family would be totally redundant.

It hasn't happened and will never happen

Definitive answer. Next thread.

What about Rosselli he was listed as a Capo in L.A but wasn't he a prominent member of Chicago?

Roselli was Chicago's representative in Vegas and Hollywood but he never took an active role with any Cali family.

Anthony Pinelli was made in Chicago and then "retired" to California in the fifties, ostensibly to act as Chicago's man in L.A. as he was later identified as having an active role in that family.

Has there not been guys who were made in Sicily and then made again in the US?

Sal Catalano could have been one...

You can't be made again in the U.S. if you have already been made in Sicily. Catalano wasn't made twice.

You swear your allegiance to Palermo and that's that. The same applies to the American families. End of story.

Rosselli WAS a member of the L.A. Family when Jack Dragna was boss. He transferred to Chicago when they elected Frank Desimone.

How many times ? No made member of the American mob has EVER been made into two families

Say they could ask to switch family's doubt they be allowed to work for two hmmm.....

Well, Roselli "belonged" to Chicago, even though he spent most of his criminal career in California. I never thought he was actually considered a part of the L.A. family, he just worked closely with them on behalf of Chicago.

If someone asked to switch they would probably become one of the "desaparecidos".

My understanding is that Roselli was originally a Capone associate, moved to California and was made there. Jimmy Fratianno said that Roselli was the one who sponsored him into the LA Family. Later, Roselli was transfered to the Chicago outfit.

There are examples of others who transfered from one Family to another, so it´s not totally unheard of. But generally, a member can not transfer unless there´s a good reason for it. And of course, the bosses must approve of the move.

And just to clarify, a made guy can not be a member of two Families at the same time.

It always seemed to me like Roselli took orders from either Ricca, Accardo, or Giancana, which I always interpreted as him being a made Chicago guy.

Curiously enough, I've never heard of Fratianno being sponsored by Roselli but then again who knows how they operated over there in Cali...

I don´t remember the details, but Roselli took orders from those guys once he was under their leadership (late 1950s). Faithful would know more of this. I think this was explained in an earlier thread. (I think it was on this forum.)

Well, that's what the original question was, Hairy. Transferring to another crew is patently different from being made into two families at the same time . But you got it right in the end .

"Well, that's what the original question was, Hairy. Transferring to another crew is patently different from being made into two families at the same time. But you got it right in the end"

I usually do get it right in the end. But when I don´t, I expect you to come in and correct me.

Biago Digiacomo was made in Sicily and Boston.

What was Gentile's status(family)? Was it Philadelphia?