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Re: Open contract question?
[Re: ItalianIrishMix]
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Can any Joe Schmoe fulfill an open contract, and collect?......I am curious if it has EVER been done?
The "open contract" is mostly urban legend and a product of FBI and media hype and misinformation. It is in fact against LCN rules going back to the 1930s
Been there and done it I am very much for real, so if you ask, make sure you really want to know.
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Re: Open contract question?
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04/09/14 03:15 PM
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Can any Joe Schmoe fulfill an open contract, and collect?......I am curious if it has EVER been done?
The "open contract" is mostly urban legend and a product of FBI and media hype and misinformation. It is in fact against LCN rules going back to the 1930s Can you produce a quote from the FBI saying they sent out misinformation, this is the third time i have asked you this. Once more then i'd need to assume that you're avoiding the question.
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Re: Open contract question?
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Can any Joe Schmoe fulfill an open contract, and collect?......I am curious if it has EVER been done?
The "open contract" is mostly urban legend and a product of FBI and media hype and misinformation. It is in fact against LCN rules going back to the 1930s Can you produce a quote from the FBI saying they sent out misinformation, this is the third time i have asked you this. Once more then i'd need to assume that you're avoiding the question. Just a couple of many examples https://eslkevin.wordpress.com/2012/12/1...-outright-lies/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPROhttp://disinfo.com/tag/fbi/But lets talk about there LCN misinformation A sworn Government witness gave the names of 60 made guys in the Chicago Outfit. A short time later, they contradicted the testimony of their OWN government witness and puts that there are 28 members on their web site The FBI on their website claims the Rockford family is "extinct" A few weeks later they name a boss When the boss dies, again they declare the family extinct Months later, they name a new boss When he dies, they claim he was not the boss, but a Chicago associate, and the family is extinct Late in 2012....wait for it....they name a new boss of a family they declared extinct 3 times in the past decade..LOL How much was the contract for that was put on Pistone's head? At the time when his double-agentry was revealed, there was a $500,000 contract on Joe Pistone's head, according to FBI informants. Only Problem" LCN rules strictly prohibit paying made members or associates fro hits, and the murder of federal agents EVER Is that enough or do you need more?
Been there and done it I am very much for real, so if you ask, make sure you really want to know.
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Re: Open contract question?
[Re: ItalianIrishMix]
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04/10/14 04:04 AM
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carmine persico is not known for giving a single fuck for rules, right? I must say, i believe guilani when he said there were a contract on his head. Instead of Pistone, i think this guy is more LCN as he thinks, i don't believe to much was he said and he is not that smart i guess. He even believes up this day that fat tony was the boss in the 80's as they convicted him in the commission trial. well, what i#ve read, he was a boss. but a frontboss not the official boss..right?
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Re: Open contract question?
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The killing of Willie Moretti in NJ in the 50s was an open contract according to the Valachi Papers. He was in the Genovese Family, but killed by an Anastasia family guy. There is another story which I can't find confirmation of anywhere, where Vito Genovese said some associates who shot at a made guy should be killed "on the spot" if anyone saw them. I don't think they pay for hits. None of the rats have said anybody paid them for doing "work". And if you did carry out a contract,how would you collect? What would you do if they didn't pay? Exactly..."killed on the spot" happens, but when you talk about "open contracts" money is always implied. There are the Mad dog Sullivans of the world who were killers for hire, but to either accept or pay a made guy for a hit is a commission actionable offense
Been there and done it I am very much for real, so if you ask, make sure you really want to know.
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Re: Open contract question?
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04/12/14 12:54 PM
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A made man does not get paid to do a hit, but might get some benefits such as say he was kicking up 30% of his take to his capo, it might now be 25% instead, or he gets a piece of some action latter down the road, or gets bumped up, if an associate does the contract, then he might become a made man, but it depends on who the target is. Open Contract means any family or member of a certain family can kill the target, instead of a designated hitter. If there is money involved, then good luck to anyone outside LCN.
"I have this Nightmare. I'm on 5th avenue watching the St. Patrick's Day parade and I have a coronary and nine thousand cops march happily over my body." Chief Sidney Green
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