I can see Gags at #4 based on that pic.

I agree with you on Queenie...my ass he wouldn't have been high level enough to be with these guys.

Was watching a documentary on Sam DeStefano this morning when a very familiar face popped up:



I now believe that Crimaldi is #6. If Sam was present, it sure makes sense. FWIW, Crimaldi later flipped on Sam.

No way #4 is Infelice or Ferriola.In thouse days Infelice looked like Al Capone and Ferriola was a whole different face.I also vote that #4 is Joe Gags.


Joseph Ferriola


Rocco Infelice

First i stated that Pranno is not in the picture but do you guys think #6 might be this guy? Look at the earlobe,nose and hair style


Rocco Pranno

nice. convincing!

Pranno would've been about 40 at the time of Fosco's pic. That pic of Crimaldi was from the 60s, so I think Crimaldi's probably the better bet.

#6 is definitly not Pranno He had the build and the hair, but not the nose or chin, and frankly, he was kind of scary looking.


I figure Fosco's photo is between 56 (56 Belair) and 59 (there is a lot of Foxhead beer on the table. Foxhead reorganized in '58 and early in '59 effectively fired J.B and Cerone as bogus salesman.)

I figure #6 is thirty something to maybe a well preserved fortyish.

#6's most notable feature is that he is handsome. He looks like the illegitimate love child of Paul Newman and Robert Goulet.

This is pretty rare in the outfit.
I have been looking at any mobsters from the era that could fit the bill.

Caifano was a pipsqueek.
Joe Siciliano was in jail
Pretty boy Lombardi, Crimaldi, and Franky Schweihs (believe it or not, he looked like John Garfield when he was young) were all in their early 20's.

The only other guy I have been able to find that looks right, is a crooked personal injury lawyer named Fred Ackerman.



He would be disbarred and go on to turn states evidence against Mirro, Rocky Infelice, Americo DePieto, and Frank Santucci in one case and Destefano in another.

But the best I can tell, his involvement with the mob started with a juice loan in '58 and everything else was him trying to work it off.
I can't imagine he was connected enough with these guys to drink their beer in the time frame of the photo

#6 Does not look like Crimalidi to me.

Really? As soon as his pic splashed on the documentary, I did a double-take.

Take a closer look and compare: the cleft chin, the nose, the small mouth, and the little widow's peak. The Crimaldi pic used for comparison is from the 60s, probably 5-8 years after the ANP photo.

Anybody know how tall Ricca was? Fosco mentioned to me that Mad Sam being in the pic would only make sense if he was there (meaning Cerone would actually be Ricca).

Scroll down here for the mugshot of Centracchio, taken around 1964. This was about 5 years after the group photo. He has the same head shape, hair, and facial features as the young guy. Not as tanned, but tans come and go, plus police station lights are usually brighter than sunlight in a forest.

http://mobstersinblackandwhite.blogspot.com/2012_03_01_archive.html

Agreed that #6 could be Centracchio.

In other news, it's (FINALLY) last call for identifying everybody in this pic. Fosco has stated that he'll reveal sometime this month (but don't hold your breath).

I'm interested to see just how close we came to getting it right...

Lol, I will ban myself from the board if that is Centracchio.

I will also ban myself from the board if that is Centracchio.

You need to consider each guy's stature at that time (1950s). Guys like Crimaldi and Centracchio likely never met Accardo, let alone were invited to hang with him at the height of his power. Centracchio was likely still a low-level hood in the 1950s.

Hands down the best thread on gangsterbb 👍 Love these Outfit threads.

No way Crimaldi would have a beer with JB and his inner circle in the mid 50s (or ever). The guy was an associate of Mad Sam who in turn only was tolerated because of his qualities as an earner and protegé of Paul Ricca.

I think you cant overlook the possibilty that a few of the guys in the photo were civilians, as somebody mentioned earlier. Civilians or rather unknown associates but with some personal relation to JB or to anyone of the other top outfit guys identified in the photo.

Wouldn't rule out Daddano as being one of them. Buck Clementi, either. They both ran that area along with Amato and Les Kruse, who could be another one in the photo. Nappi may be one as well. When you only have one or two pictures of a guy to off of he may look completely different, especially in a casual setting that differs from that of a typical mugshot or surveillance photo.

Just reviewed this entire thread, and I'm going to base my final guess on something Joe E Brown contributed:



I think that the context of the photo is very important, and that it's more likely that not that not just high-ranking guys were present. Thus the argument that so-and-so wouldn't dream of being in the presence of so-and-so means a little less to me.

My final guess, dammit:

1. Amato
2. Accardo
3. Potenza
4. Glimco (doubtful, but a recent hunch)
5. Palermo
6. Centracchio
7. Gianola
8. Adduci
9. Ricca (based on something Fosco mentioned to me, and that I believe #10 is...)
10. Mad Sam

Now tear me apart!

Didn't Fosco already say that #10 wasn't Sam DeStefano? I was almost sure it was, too.

Forget about Glimco, Ricca and Gianola....especially Ricca. He was bald on the top yeah, but he had all white hair from the sides since the 1940's so again...forget it. And if Fosco says that Ricca is on there then he's talking nonsense and really doesnt know who are the guys in that picture

No, he didn't exactly say that it wasn't Sam...he said that Sam would only be there if Ricca were, as he was really Ricca's guy (I know he kicked up to Accardo, but I have actually read somewhere that hands were off Sam due to Ricca).

I can't think of who #10 might otherwise be, that's all.

Not sure abot 4 and 6, quite sure about blasi.. if he wasn't at jail or something. Its defo not Sam DeStefano if you look closely at both ears

1. Amato
2. Accardo
3. Simonelli
4. --> Fifi Buccieri??
5. Palermo
6. Centraccio ??
7. Willie Daddano
8. Adduci
9. Cerone
10. Butch Blasi

If number 10 isn't Sam than it's definitely not Blasi.

Amato, Accardo, and Nicky Palermo are the only ones that are pretty much confirmed based on what we know these guys looked like. The rest are going to be either (a) guys we have never heard of or (b) guys of which we have no (or limited) existing photographs.

My pick for the younger guy is Nappi. Why not? He was in his late thirties at the time of the photo but was already well-connected. Plus, Fosco said he got the photo from a relative of his. He also slightly resembles the only photo of Nappi that I have ever seen.

don't get your logic. There is quite a resemblance between the photos of blasi in the late 70s and the guy in the picture.
blasi was accardos driver, so it makes perfectly sense.
And romie nappi was the relative fosco was speakin of.

i would add simonelli adduci and cerone to the confirmed list as well.

He already said Simonelli was not in the photo, although he agreed with the resemblance that number four shared with him. I don't see Adduci being one of the guys, either. I like the bald guy to be Cerone but the vibe I got from Fosco was that he wasn't a "definite".

As for Blasi, sorry, I don't share your assessment on his resemblance to number 10. Blasi didn't have that much white in his hair in the fifties, plus the ears are different:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-xlN1rSsiN4I/Ux4tPAzw3RI/AAAAAAACbog/E9T9VTOEIWw/s1600/butch+blasi.jpg

hm seems you're right on blasi.. its a hard one.

Toodoped may have inadvertently finally provided a plausible name for #10: Roland Libonati.

Here he is with Cigar by Capone:


And again probably after the photo contest pic was taken:
[img:center]http://mediasvc.ancestry.com/image/38397...amp;MaxSide=160[/img]

From Toodoped:


I see a cleft chin and hair that is very similar. Thoughts? Not that Fosco's ever going to tell us...

Not bad. Plausible.

I'm pretty sure that's him, and again I'm left wondering: is #9 Ricca, Cerone, or otherwise? Pic was probably from '56-58 or '59, so Ricca would've been available for such a gathering. I'm not sure he would have attended, though. Also,...

I see more brown with grey in the little hair that #9 has, which leads me to guess Cerone. But I have no idea, and can only surmise.

I submitted to Fosco last night:

1. Amato
2. Accardo
3. Pranno
4. ???
5. Palermo
6. Crimaldi
7. Gianola
8. Adduci
9. Cerone
10. Libonati

I think that's gotta be 6 of them, and MAYBE 7. Still totally unsure about all but 1-3, 5, 8, and 10. I really hope Fosco puts us out of our misery some day and announces the names, because I don't know if I can take much more of trying to figure it out (and I can't stop myself from trying).

I don't think that Adduci is in it, but I agree with the rest. Pranno is actually Potenza. Or have I gotten that backwards again? Lol

Sorry for the tardy response. I do believe that's actually Pranno, as if I remember correctly it was established that some publications had inadvertently used pictures of Potenza as Pranno. Also, Fosco asserted as much. I doubt his sources are mistaken.

I had to step away from this whole mess of a mystery for a while, and just took a peak at the last page again tonight. It occurs to me now that if Libonati is #10, then that's probably Ricca and not Cerone. How that didn't occur to me before is yet another mystery.

Moreover, I'm now pretty well convinced that #10 is Libonati.

The worst part is knowing that you'll never know if you actually knew what you thought you knew...

EDIT: Per Potenza/Pranno, maybe it was the other way around, lol; I just took a look around, and it appears that it was.

1. Amato
2. Accardo
3. Pranno
4. ??? (not Gags)
5. Palermo
6. Guy Cervone (Toodoped's new West Side chart has a pic; really looks like him)
7. ??? (Nuccio?)
8. ??? (think this may actually be Nuccio)
9. Cerone (Fosco implied it wasn't Ricca)
10. Di Varco!!!!***

***Came across a contemporary pic of Di Varco a while back, and instantly noticed the resemblance. Ear lobes and chin are spot on, and it makes sense, as I can recall Fosco asking someone on ANP which guy they thought was Di Varco. I believe the guess was #7.

Here's Di Varco at what looks like a country club: