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Re: Does the mafia stimulate the economy?
[Re: FunnyHow]
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07/29/13 04:17 AM
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@Cookcounty.
Does the mafia stimulate the economy?
Think about this: the mafia in almost every aspect it touches artificially increase prices, paid for, by YOU.
Every thing which is stolen, every union which is rigged, every industry which is organized, every bar or shop which is extorted, every building which is built the artificially inflated costs are passed on to the consumer.
Aka YOU.
And you know all those taxes they DON'T pay? Guess who picks up the tab there? Yup. You. Less tax revenue = higher/more taxes to make up for the shortfall.
And drugs? Who pays for all those extra cops? Those border control agents? Those nurses and ambulances and govt rehab centres. Yup. You.
So if you or anyone else (especially psuedo capitalists who think its just 'entrepreneurial' what mob guys do...) thinks that because they drop a g on a new suit every once in while they're 'stimulating' the economy? Think again.
Because you bought him that suit.
Last edited by SonnyBlackstein; 07/29/13 04:32 AM.
MORGAN: Why didn't you fight him at the park if you wanted to? I'm not goin' now, I'm eatin' my snack. CHUCKIE: Morgan, Let's go. MORGAN: I'm serious Chuckie, I ain't goin'. WILL: So don't go.
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Re: Does the mafia stimulate the economy?
[Re: Chicago]
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07/29/13 05:00 PM
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Cook County for President! He has the answer to stimulate the economy more on his street Corner. LOL.
He makes these comments without any thought in order to get attention. And, we're stupid enough to give it to him! Exacty. Don't....Feed....The....Trolls .
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: Does the mafia stimulate the economy?
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07/29/13 09:42 PM
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123JoeSchmo
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so nobody is gonna dispute that drug dealers stimulate the economy? what do drug addicts spend their money on? drugs! where do most of them get their money once it gets serious? petty thefts and government checks! what do drug dealers do with their money? buy more drugs. those transactions are not taxed. what happens when all of that bulk cash is smuggled out of chicago down to sinaloa? how does that help the local economy? this isn't 1970's miami anymore where you can buy cars, houses, boats, businesses ect with cash. nobody would deal drugs if you couldn't legally spend the proceeds Dude you're logic is literally the worst I've ever seen. Junkies, low life dealers, and gangs don't stimulate the economy. They steal from it. And you wonder why black people get stereotyped? Just you saying drug dealers HELP this country instead of rotting in prison where they belong is one of many many reasons
"Don't ever go against the family again. Ever"- Michael Corleone
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Re: Does the mafia stimulate the economy?
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07/29/13 09:55 PM
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Hurt the economy more then anything.
From now on, nothing goes down unless I'm involved. No blackjack no dope deals, no nothing. A nickel bag gets sold in the park, I want in. You guys got fat while everybody starved on the street. Now it's my turn.
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Re: Does the mafia stimulate the economy?
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07/29/13 10:03 PM
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Camarel
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so nobody is gonna dispute that drug dealers stimulate the economy? what do drug addicts spend their money on? drugs! where do most of them get their money once it gets serious? petty thefts and government checks! what do drug dealers do with their money? buy more drugs. those transactions are not taxed. what happens when all of that bulk cash is smuggled out of chicago down to sinaloa? how does that help the local economy? this isn't 1970's miami anymore where you can buy cars, houses, boats, businesses ect with cash. nobody would deal drugs if you couldn't legally spend the proceeds Dude you're logic is literally the worst I've ever seen. Junkies, low life dealers, and gangs don't stimulate the economy. They steal from it. And you wonder why black people get stereotyped? Just you saying drug dealers HELP this country instead of rotting in prison where they belong is one of many many reasons I honestly hope he doesn't realize what he's trping. If he does there's one of two explanations, he's a troll or......
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Re: Does the mafia stimulate the economy?
[Re: cookcounty]
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07/30/13 05:11 AM
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Cook, How does it feel to be the most hated poster on this entire Forum? Does it feel good? Even other respected Black Posters are laughing at you. It's not just Big Bad Whitey.
Last edited by Chicago; 07/30/13 07:00 AM.
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Re: Does the mafia stimulate the economy?
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07/31/13 10:32 AM
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In some regards they do stimulate the economy.
By pushing up prices in industries such as construction, the total revenue for the economy is increased as people, especially in an urban area such as NYC, still need property and hence demand is inelastic. As such, increased revenue means a greater quantity of circular flow of income, which increases Gross Domestic Product and hence grows the economy. Furthermore, the Mob effectuates law enforcement and causes them to be employed, they pay taxes, increases circular flow of income, etc.
However, this is more than offset by the increased cost of production caused by them, causing inefficiency and reducing the economy's productive capacity. For example, the amount of money the government spends on imprisoning and prosecuting them could be put to much better use which would benefit the economy in the long run. They of course also do not pay all of their taxes, causing taxes to be raised for others, and reducing expenditure.
Long story short , the answer is No !
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Re: Does the mafia stimulate the economy?
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07/31/13 01:03 PM
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SonnyBlackstein
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In some regards they do stimulate the economy.
By pushing up prices in industries such as construction, the total revenue for the economy is increased as people, especially in an urban area such as NYC, still need property and hence demand is inelastic. As such, increased revenue means a greater quantity of circular flow of income, which increases Gross Domestic Product and hence grows the economy. Furthermore, the Mob effectuates law enforcement and causes them to be employed, they pay taxes, increases circular flow of income, etc.
However, this is more than offset by the increased cost of production caused by them, causing inefficiency and reducing the economy's productive capacity. For example, the amount of money the government spends on imprisoning and prosecuting them could be put to much better use which would benefit the economy in the long run. They of course also do not pay all of their taxes, causing taxes to be raised for others, and reducing expenditure.
Long story short , the answer is No ! Mate no offense but that is absolute crap. "By pushing up prices in industries such as construction, the total revenue for the economy is increased" What garbage. How? The increase in cost is paid for by the consumer whom would otherwise have injected those funds into the economy. "...a greater quantity of circular flow of income" Made, up, gibberish. Ie Non-sensical If you're trying to pass yourself off as some what educated about economics you're failing.
Last edited by SonnyBlackstein; 07/31/13 02:47 PM.
MORGAN: Why didn't you fight him at the park if you wanted to? I'm not goin' now, I'm eatin' my snack. CHUCKIE: Morgan, Let's go. MORGAN: I'm serious Chuckie, I ain't goin'. WILL: So don't go.
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