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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #1093663
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Hells Angels Promoter and Unremarkable Family Targeted by Gunfire

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i love the old school denial by mr. dallaire.

" non non non, those arent bullet holes in my garage...there uh vent holes they help my garage cool down in this heat, yeah thats it nothing to see here."

pietrantonio attempt last week, looks like these 'alleged' shots were fired around same time give or take. 2 incidents in last couple weeks involving confirmed allies of martin robert.

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Originally Posted by VitoCahill
i love the old school denial by mr. dallaire.

" non non non, those arent bullet holes in my garage...there uh vent holes they help my garage cool down in this heat, yeah thats it nothing to see here."

pietrantonio attempt last week, looks like these 'alleged' shots were fired around same time give or take. 2 incidents in last couple weeks involving confirmed allies of martin robert.


va bene! grazie mille sei furbo. forse marty il capo puo chiamare il suo padrino, camparè ray lol. oppure chiama il nuovo 'johnny bravo' in ontario. secondo me i bikers sono scimmie sulle motociclette non inclusa il loro picaso. gli itaiani di sud sono diversi poi italos. il loro modo oppure morta! perche è una famiglia non è un atto.

two types of business, mafiosi and those who wish they are

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: VitoCahill] #1093777
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Originally Posted by VitoCahill
i love the old school denial by mr. dallaire.

" non non non, those arent bullet holes in my garage...there uh vent holes they help my garage cool down in this heat, yeah thats it nothing to see here."

pietrantonio attempt last week, looks like these 'alleged' shots were fired around same time give or take. 2 incidents in last couple weeks involving confirmed allies of martin robert.


Robert is fixing to either look like a genius and take control of Montreal or fail horribly, look like an idiot and die. Very important time in Montreal

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #1093917
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Trahi par des bonbons et des bâtonnets au fromage
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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #1094084
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any idea who doran smith is allied with amongst gangs? or is he an associate of a known mafia member/associate?

a related question, who amongst the many street gangs would still line up with the rizzuto-sollecito clan in 2024? since the murder of woolley in 2023 the gang situation has changed. celestin now lining up with robert as a marauder mc member being a good example. most good evidence had celestin being allied with woolley up until his murder, i suppose its possible this changed before or very soon after the murder.

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Originally Posted by antimafia
Le restaurant Moretti prisé par des acteurs du crime organisé
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...se-par-des-acteurs-du-crime-organise.php

Les permis de la pizzéria Moretti suspendus durant 25 jours
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...ia-moretti-suspendus-durant-25-jours.php

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #1094862
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Le restaurant Moretti prisé par des acteurs du crime organisé
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...se-par-des-acteurs-du-crime-organise.php

Les permis de la pizzéria Moretti suspendus durant 25 jours
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...ia-moretti-suspendus-durant-25-jours.php

Trendy Griffintown pizzeria's permits suspended after Quebec liquor board ruling
https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/trendy-...ter-quebec-liquor-board-ruling-1.6971591

Une pizzeria tendance de Griffintown voit son permis suspendu
https://www.noovo.info/nouvelle/une-pizzeria-tendance-de-griffintown-voit-son-permis-suspendu.html

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #1094864
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Suspicious firebombing that happened last Thursday after midnight may or may not be related to Italian OC.

‘We’re not intimidated’: Molotov cocktail thrown inside Montreal restaurant
https://globalnews.ca/news/10630700/montreal-arson-restaurant/

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: VitoCahill] #1094892
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Originally Posted by VitoCahill
any idea who doran smith is allied with amongst gangs? or is he an associate of a known mafia member/associate?

a related question, who amongst the many street gangs would still line up with the rizzuto-sollecito clan in 2024? since the murder of woolley in 2023 the gang situation has changed. celestin now lining up with robert as a marauder mc member being a good example. most good evidence had celestin being allied with woolley up until his murder, i suppose its possible this changed before or very soon after the murder.



This is why I said before....it wouldn't surprise me if someone close to Whooley gave him up...

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #1094967
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help of other will be help. the foto is bikers, in distance gregory woolley? due black men, hells angels, devils with the picasso. he known to be part of fam

ecco è un foto forse qualche prove dei i traditori includono molti colori. quando e chi

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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #1095669
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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #1095670
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The month of July on the Montreal island has been marred with arson attacks and shootings on businesses and auto's. This has been going on for several months but July being the most active. In July about half of these attacks occurred in the St. Laurent and Verdun area. Other than the usual Mafia, street gangs and bikers, some of the victims have been of middle east origin. Owners of luxury car companies have also been targeted.

The month of July started with a luxury car being burned in front of this mansion home.
https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...st-laurent-est-a-vendre-pour-7-777-777-1

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...-de-luxe-ravage-par-un-incendie-criminel

According to some social media sites this home is allegedly owned by Avo Aboulian of Toyz auto parts (luxury cars).

For several months over 30 pizzerias and restaurants have been targeted not including other businesses.


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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: Ciment] #1095770
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Originally Posted by Ciment

Pizzeria hit by gunfire in downtown Montreal
La Medusa was also the target of an attempted firebombing two weeks ago
https://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/pizzeria-hit-by-gunfire-in-downtown-montreal

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: Hollander] #1095831
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Originally Posted by Hollander
Raymond has still a lot of influence !

Arrested in the spring with encrypted phones, the kingpin Raymond Desfossés is suspected by the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) of being again at the head of a major drug trafficking network. The career criminal will be subject to strict conditions once his statutory release is obtained.


https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...a-la-tete-d-un-reseau-de-trafiquants.php

Le «roi de la cocaïne» Raymond Desfossés est mort
https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2024/08/02/le-roi-de-la-cocaine-raymond-desfosses-est-mort

Le « roi de la cocaïne », Raymond Desfossés, est mort
https://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvelle/2091833/mort-raymond-desfosses-caid-drogue


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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #1095855
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What's the final conclusion of the 2015 murder of Domenico Iacono? Mob related or not? I read that it was the result of a real estate dispute, and that his killer went to great lengths to hide his body because of his alleged Mafia ties.

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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #1095914
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not mafia related at all. iacono to my knowledge was connected to no one and not related to iacono family connected to gallo either. another murder, among many that has been continually linked to mtl mafia conflicts and wars, it is not and should be removed from all lists saying as much.

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https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...after-being-caught-in-real-estate-scheme

a pretty good summary. note at beginning the mention of 'baseless allegations hat iacono was mtl mafia.' i'm paraphrasing but u get the point.

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #1095982
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Originally Posted by antimafia
Originally Posted by Hollander
Raymond has still a lot of influence !

Arrested in the spring with encrypted phones, the kingpin Raymond Desfossés is suspected by the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) of being again at the head of a major drug trafficking network. The career criminal will be subject to strict conditions once his statutory release is obtained.


https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...a-la-tete-d-un-reseau-de-trafiquants.php

Le «roi de la cocaïne» Raymond Desfossés est mort
https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2024/08/02/le-roi-de-la-cocaine-raymond-desfosses-est-mort

Le « roi de la cocaïne », Raymond Desfossés, est mort
https://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvelle/2091833/mort-raymond-desfosses-caid-drogue


Raymond Desfossés, roi de la cocaïne de Trois-Rivières, n’est plus
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...cocaine-de-trois-rivieres-n-est-plus.php

Former West End Gang leader Raymond Desfossés, 73, has died
https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...ang-leader-raymond-desfosses-73-has-died

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: VitoCahill] #1096001
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Vito, I don't think it was a mob hit. But don't you think it's strange that a regular old civilian stabbed this guy like 30 times then stuffed him in the trunk of a car? I mean, how often does that happen with just everyday people?

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oh it is odd, but it sounds like boyer...the stabber had been told that iacono was connected, which he wasnt. so i guess if boyer assumed this guy was a legit criminal his mind must have been racing even before the confrontation that led to iaconos death. boyer was still convinced of this afterwards and dumped body only later to find out iacono was not mafia. and really alot of things about the milieu are very odd when ya think of it. alleged rappers getting killed for videos they post on youtube? thats odd. HA openly showing on their vests what criminal group they belong to, seems odd as well and not unique to quebec i know. the situation on some qc native reserves is odd considering the total lack of authority of really anyone.

as far as most people coming up against such a situation i imagine is not common nor would there be a normal routine way to handle a screw driver wielding tough guy asking for money in your home.

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #1097027
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https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/.../je-ne-vais-pas-me-laisser-intimider.php

randomly stumbled upon this today. the owner of pizzeria, carmelo caruana caught my eye. i have no idea if he is related to any part of the caruana family. but it is not a common last name. i may be jumping to conclusions but...pizza franchise, multiple arsons, italian last name all within a timeline when R-S clan and HA (robert) were fighting over the book.

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https://www.lecourrierdusud.ca/la-f...-cartier-pizza-participe-a-un-quiz-tele/


The family that owns Jacques Cartier Pizza takes part in a TV quiz

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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #1097702
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Montréal: coups de feu sur le salon de coiffure où Claudia Iacono a été assassinée
https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...ffure-ou-claudia-iacono-a-ete-assassinee

Le commerce a appartenu à une femme assassinée en 2023
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...rtenu-a-une-femme-assassinee-en-2023.php

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Originally Posted by antimafia
Montréal: coups de feu sur le salon de coiffure où Claudia Iacono a été assassinée
https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...ffure-ou-claudia-iacono-a-ete-assassinee

Le commerce a appartenu à une femme assassinée en 2023
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...rtenu-a-une-femme-assassinee-en-2023.php



i wonder who ordered the hit, probaby the Rizzuto's being Anthony Gallo the son of Moreno...

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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #1097779
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Don't know if the question belongs here but have there been any details from wiretaps/books/confessions etc. about the wholesale price of cocaine in Canada or how much profit Mafia or the bikers make from importing it?

I was reading the Scoppa book and he mentions that he only made $2000 in profit per kilo of coke, which seems really low. He said you would pay $40K per kilo(I'm assuming this also includes logistics costs) and hope to sell it wholesale for $2000 profit. So if for example you import 100 kilos you risk $4 million to make $200K in profit. In this case it hardly seems worth risking that much money, or getting killed by a cartel if you get it on consignment.

On the other hand I was reading the book on the Wolfpack Alliance and while they didn't discuss profit per kilo, the author made it seem like the Wolfpack guys were swimming in money from importing coke. And during El Chapo's trial, Alex Cifuentes mentioned they dealth with Tony Suzuki and they made "dozens of millions".

Was Scoppa just bullshitting, making it seem like he didn't deal in coke because it didn't make sense, the old "i never dealt in drugs bit"? Or is it just that he just didn't have good connections and was forced to buy at a high price?

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good question, i know the price pre kilo now is very low in mtl/quebec, under $30000 from latest article in the journal.

to the scoppa book it is a puzzle to decipher indeed, probably bs ing on that claim though. judging by robertos...errrrrrrr andreas, connect in operation dead hand 2024 the family was importing 100s of kilos a year for 8 years so i doubt they were paying near market price. andrea scoppa didnt seem much involved in much else if we take his book remarks. never had a piece of 'the book', no loansharking, extortion and here im talking 2012 and on. from the accounts in his book and the evidence gathered in proj estacade he was involved in cocaine and laundering the money through atms across montreal, a common practice.

the wolfpack from 2009-2012 did indeed bring in a lot of coke with a direct connect to the sinaloa cartel when price in big cities may have been closer to 50k for a kilo. and in that time brought in 1.2 tons of blow or something crazy.

as far as the HA have eclipsed the mafia in importation with alleged connections to cartels in mexico, so sinaloa or jalisco i guess.

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/i just re-read the news about the Roberto Scoppa bust earlier this year and he bragged to an informant that he made $1 million/year while importing 100 kilos each month. So that's less than $1000 profit per kilo, which seems insanely low.

That doesn't seem to be worth it, unless he was just a transporter getting paid $1000/kilo, not buying with his own money. Seems like it might be better to just sell grams out of a bar or have 2-3 runners, instead of dealing with insane Mexicans, setting up logistics from Mexico to Canada and risk losing huge amounts of $ in a bust only to make $80K per month. A small retail crew would probably make as much money with less risk and hassle.

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