WELCOME to the 21st century! The rules and omerta don't mean anything now. It's like swearing, spitting and littering on the street, it doesn't mean anything. We all do it anyway.

Beanshooter - But now they won't go through a big thing and decline someone who wants in and could make a big difference in money wise. Now they just figure if you are of Italian descent then why go through all the trouble and bother but the rules weren't first placed like that.

I heard the Colombo's made a few black guys over thanksgiving

its all about the respect of you and 'your guy'. campo and merola both got 'in' because no one wanted to disrespect jackie or frank.or was it tory? they were 'good kids'. no beefs, no problem. but try and get chris paciello made and youll see the flipside.

I think loyalty and ability to make money should be placed above race anyday. If someone is a skilled member you shouldn't care whether he's Italian, Hispanic, Black, Asian, Middle Eastern, Pacific Islander, Indic, Native American, Eurasian, British, Redneck,...whatever...

I think it was Tore and Richie Martino that proposed him and that was because of the big Internet fraud scam that Richie, Tore, Andrew, Tommy and Zef were involved in. Andrew Mom dated Martino.
http://www.justice.gov/usao/nye/vw/PendingCases/CR-03-304_Indictment_S6-_US_v_SALVATORE_LOCASCIO.pdf

It is 'KillingJoke'. But it wouldn't look so good if Asians, Blacks, Whites, Middle Eastern, Pacific Islander, Indic and Native American were all together. Jewish aren't allowed because of in the past they have screwed the Italian's many times.

Since street gangs are becoming increasingly multiracial I think that organized crime will also evolve that way in the future. I can't see it happening in the next 10 years, but in the distant future...who knows.
In fact, Al Capone once had an organization that included everything from Jews to Blacks. And that organization was extremely succesful.

Look at it this way. If you were going to be involved in crime, would you go with people in your neighborhood or people in another city? It's basically like that. They trust each other by where they come from which is Italy. They believe they can't trust any other nationalty, and that if they come from the same country then no-one will rat against each other.

They all come from America, just so you know. Where are you trying to find all these 100% Italians you're going on about? Your grandparents coming from Italy a hundred years ago, doesn't mean anything. You're born in America, you're American. You have no more honor than Chef Boyardee and his cousin Francesco Rinaldi.

Consensus?

Letter of the law is full blood Italian.

Practical application: Italian name will suffice if you're "don't ask, don't tell" on the matter.

I'm not LCN, but I would have to imagine that being a good earner/ trustworthy has a lot to do with a halfy getting his button.

thank you frank. bingo.

as far as blacks being made? twenty years ago they were still being chased down the street in my neighborhood at least.

Nobody got made. One of the mob wives just cremated the Columbo Thanksgiving turkey again. Happens every year.

Mob Wives... disgrace.

Boston. Had salemne as boss an he was half irish

Can a person of Corsican descent be made in the Italian-American Mafia.

i know of one.he was fresh off the boat though.

Who ? That's kinda odd a Corsican-American made guy I guess that flys since thierry all ethnic Italians, I wonder about an Istrian or even a Maltese(Actually heard of one before but not made)

i dont know if he was full corsican or what. he owns a restaurant in jersey and lives tottenville. he got proposed and no one 'knocked' it down.he told me straight that he was corsican. he told anyone that askef, but in my opinion it was not common knowledge. he was a nice guy and i sincerely doubt he ever had any major beef with some one that would hold being corsican against him. as far as 'official' rules go,i cant tell you.

Whose chasing them out now? The Chinese or the Russians?

Corsicans are actually closely related to Sardinians. I think that a Sardinian in America is seen as an Italian. So I guess they also can get made although I know of no mobster of Sardinian descent.
Aren't Maltese people Semitic ? And outside of the 1950's Maltese owned porn shops in Soho I don't think the Maltese have a big criminal tradition.

What if you're 100% Italian by virtue of both your parents being 50% Italian (both with full blooded Italian fathers) and 50% Irish? If both of your grandfathers on both sides are 100% Italians, shouldn't that count?

if you have two italian last names, no ones gonna give a fuck.

And also lets not forget about Anothony Senter.

The irony is that if you're born in Istria you're probably more "Italian" than anyone born in the United States.

Off topic: Lidia Bastianich, the "Queen" of Italian cooking, is actually Yugoslavian-Istrian, and so was her husband. And their kids consider themselves Italian American.

honestly i couldnt tell any difference between corsican accent and an italian one.

Yes these days You have made guys from all over the boot including the North ie Crea,Greg Scarpa Part I and II , Actually I believe Scarpa came from Vicenza which believe t or not is closer to Pola,Istria(Where I beliee Lidia comes from lol) Then to Milan let alone Palermo, Istria as well as Corsica are within the borders of historical "Greater Italy" and have ancient Italian history's descending from the Maritime republics of Genoa and Venice respectively , As for the Maltese third language is classified as Semetic but te population descends mainly from people from Sicily and under Mussolini was considered a Sicillian dialect, Long story short I think Pizza Boy is right a guy from any of these places has much more of a claim to being"Italian" then any Italian-American

there is also south tyrol in Italy as well.