long story short, while mobsters more than likely have some problems in prison, i doubt they are being taken advantage of the same as some white kid fresh off the bus from the suburbs.

Also, do mobsters form alliances with other Aryans/white prison gangs? I've read about this, but don't know if this is common or isolated incidents. It would make sense since everyone sticks with their own race in prison.

I don't have a clue but i'm guessing people who know they're spending the rest of their lives behin bars might target high profile inmates. The mafia has died down over the last decade or so but are still notorious because of the past not beig able to pose the threat they could've in the 30s-70s could make them vulnerable to people trying to make a name for themselves. Great question btw

and what's a New York gangster going to to when he's locked up in some hell hole in Texas?

Hello all, first time posting here in about ten years. I am curious as to the treatment of modern day mobsters in prison. Obviously, the days of mobsters practically owning prisons ala Goodfellas is over. A few specific incidents thzt i recently read about have led me to wonder this,for example the Lucchese family working with the crips, particularly Perna reaching out to stop an associate from getting extorted. Another such incident is John Alite getting his teeth knocked out in prison. The incident that led me to post this, however, is Cleveland LCN member Allie Calabrese dying of a stroke after being beaten by another inmate. So basically my question is this, are modern day mobsters often targets of violence or extortion from other inmates in prison? Any insight on this, or the Calabrese incident in particular would be much appreciated. Thanks.

Paying for protection is just seen as straight weakness in prison. You're really just being extorted, though I know lots of people in here will spin it otherwise.

Paying for protection is just seen as straight weakness in prison. You're really just being extorted, though I know lots of people in here will spin it otherwise.

Paying for protection is just seen as straight weakness in prison. You're really just being extorted, though I know lots of people in here will spin it otherwise.

I have family members who work in prisons, including my brother. My uncle was corrections officer from 1963 till 1991. My brother is one now, in New York state.
Mafia members in prisons have been discussed among us a few times. From what I have concluded listening to their stories, older mobsters doing time in 1960's and 1970's would take leadership roles among white inmates, not due to mob stature, but due to some being very rough men. They would not have absolute power, there is no one Mr. Big in any prison. They would share power, and as they all do today in prison, keep to self for most of the time. They are actually most quiet group, and cause least problems for officers.

Newer Mafia members in prison tend to fit description of suburbanites, and are not as tough as older ones were. They still are able to fight, and have respect. In prisons. No inmates, regardless of where they are from, or what their race or background is, really cares that a guy is from Mafia. How they carry selves is what counts. Today, as in past, they hang out with other white inmates, but will mix just a bit more than in past. They never pay protection. No inmates really do, because of fact that there is no one group able to control all other groups. Protection money would be wasted money. Others would just try to get some off them too.

The story of Gotti paying protection is not believed by anyone I spoke with. Consensus was that he could have done what is common for inmates to do if they have more money than others; they help out others who are around them. In regards to Gotti during his time spent in prison during 1970's for McBratney murder, no one we know remembers him. That would mean he just stayed out of trouble, and kept to self and with some friends. He did not run things, as some admirers of him might claim.

Strength is always in numbers in jail. When you don't have numbers in manpower you use numbers in dollar power. There is always the occasional loner in the can who doesn't take shit and everyone stays clear of!

Never paid protection? Ever know anyone who's done time? Not just worked there? I'm talking been an inmate? Because I know a few thousand and they all have stated that's how it works. Currency in jail comes in many forms, money, drugs, phones etc!

Currency in jail/prison comes in many forms. Stamps,food,commissarry items, but also if someone's in debt,they can have theyr people on the street send a money order to the person they owe. or also i remember being able to fill out a slip to transfer money strait from my own personal account

Never paid protection? Ever know anyone who's done time? Not just worked there? I'm talking been an inmate? Because I know a few thousand and they all have stated that's how it works. Currency in jail comes in many forms, money, drugs, phones etc!