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Inside Montreal’s bloody Mafia war #656433
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One of best if not best articles about mafia war in Montreal i ever saw:

http://mafiainconline.com/?p=1063


"A fish with his mouth closed never get's caught"
Re: Inside Montreal’s bloody Mafia war [Re: Strax] #656436
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October 2010: Salvatore Montagna tries to convince Nicolo Rizzuto to step down and tells him his reign is over. A month later Rizzuto would be dead.

I'm interested to know how the writer got this information. Previous reports stated that Montagna visited Rizzuto a few months before he was killed. The writer, however, doesn't state anything new and is speculating as much as anyone else. The Calabrian vs. Siclian theory is now kind of dated and seems to be taken as a fact by some.


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Good article but why is Conti not included?

Re: Inside Montreal’s bloody Mafia war [Re: Sonny_Black] #656439
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Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
October 2010: Salvatore Montagna tries to convince Nicolo Rizzuto to step down and tells him his reign is over. A month later Rizzuto would be dead.

I'm interested to know how the writer got this information. Previous reports stated that Montagna visited Rizzuto a few months before he was killed. The writer, however, doesn't state anything new and is speculating as much as anyone else. The Calabrian vs. Siclian theory is now kind of dated and seems to be taken as a fact by some.


True,i agree.


When reputed Montreal mob boss Vito Rizzuto gets out of prison in October 2012 neither his father nor his son will be there to greet him.

According to mob watcher Antonio Nicaso as reported by Paul Cherry for the Gazette ”This is a very important year because it is one where (Rizzuto) can reaffirm his power or lose it definitely. For sure, he will be very angered that he lost so many members of his family and he is not the type of person to say ‘okay, the past is the past and let’s look to the future.’ I don’t think that will be the case. It could be the year where we find out who is really behind this plot against the Rizzutos. I think the mastermind of these attacks is still hiding in the shadows,” Nicaso said. “I think the mistake we all can make is to write the obituary of the Rizzuto crime family. It’s not the time to write the final word on them. They have the strength and the power to face this unprecedented challenge.”

Time will tell, and we’ll likely know sooner than later.

Last edited by Strax; 07/22/12 10:27 AM.

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Re: Inside Montreal’s bloody Mafia war [Re: Strax] #656440
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the calabrian vs sicilian thery is just bullshit to me so far all the people involved except mirarchi are not calabrian

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Who won between the Desjardins and the Montagna faction, again?

Re: Inside Montreal’s bloody Mafia war [Re: Sonny_Black] #656632
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Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
October 2010: Salvatore Montagna tries to convince Nicolo Rizzuto to step down and tells him his reign is over. A month later Rizzuto would be dead.

I'm interested to know how the writer got this information. Previous reports stated that Montagna visited Rizzuto a few months before he was killed. The writer, however, doesn't state anything new and is speculating as much as anyone else. The Calabrian vs. Siclian theory is now kind of dated and seems to be taken as a fact by some.


I agree!! Also, as danielson said, where's Conti in all this?

Also, I just noticed that after I called out whoever is in charge of that page for using Mukremin's charts and passing them off as their own...they blocked me from posting on their idiotic page. But they did take down those charts. I love it.


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Re: Inside Montreal’s bloody Mafia war [Re: Strax] #656635
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Conti who..? What are you guys talking about?


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Like u would ever post on that page


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Re: Inside Montreal’s bloody Mafia war [Re: Sonny_Black] #656638
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Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Conti who..? What are you guys talking about?


I meant Cotroni, sorry. I saw Daniel's post and typed it the way he did w/out thinking. I'm just off vacation, mind you.

Strax..you got that right.

Last edited by carmela; 07/23/12 07:41 PM.

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Re: Inside Montreal’s bloody Mafia war [Re: Strax] #656640
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I would have figured that out for sure. Didn't know you guys are using abbreviations now to refer to individuals.

In any case, Conti is dead, Smonta is dead, Raydins is in prison and Vritto is being released in October.

So what did you agree on again? wink


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Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
I would have figured that out for sure. Didn't know you guys are using abbreviations now to refer to individuals.

In any case, Conti is dead, Smonta is dead, Raydins is in prison and Vritto is being released in October.

So what did you agree on again? wink


No abbreviations, just a typo on my part.

I know about Cotroni, but they left him out. Not a thorough timeline without. But it wasn't thorough to begin with.

Last edited by carmela; 07/23/12 07:56 PM.

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Re: Inside Montreal’s bloody Mafia war [Re: Strax] #656674
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Originally Posted By: Strax
Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
October 2010: Salvatore Montagna tries to convince Nicolo Rizzuto to step down and tells him his reign is over. A month later Rizzuto would be dead.

I'm interested to know how the writer got this information. Previous reports stated that Montagna visited Rizzuto a few months before he was killed. The writer, however, doesn't state anything new and is speculating as much as anyone else. The Calabrian vs. Siclian theory is now kind of dated and seems to be taken as a fact by some.


True,i agree.


When reputed Montreal mob boss Vito Rizzuto gets out of prison in October 2012 neither his father nor his son will be there to greet him.

According to mob watcher Antonio Nicaso as reported by Paul Cherry for the Gazette ”This is a very important year because it is one where (Rizzuto) can reaffirm his power or lose it definitely. For sure, he will be very angered that he lost so many members of his family and he is not the type of person to say ‘okay, the past is the past and let’s look to the future.’ I don’t think that will be the case. It could be the year where we find out who is really behind this plot against the Rizzutos. I think the mastermind of these attacks is still hiding in the shadows,” Nicaso said. “I think the mistake we all can make is to write the obituary of the Rizzuto crime family. It’s not the time to write the final word on them. They have the strength and the power to face this unprecedented challenge.”

Time will tell, and we’ll likely know sooner than later.


I hope a mob war breaks out in Canada as well as Philadelphia come October!


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Re: Inside Montreal’s bloody Mafia war [Re: Sonny_Black] #656732
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Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
October 2010: Salvatore Montagna tries to convince Nicolo Rizzuto to step down and tells him his reign is over. A month later Rizzuto would be dead.

I'm interested to know how the writer got this information. Previous reports stated that Montagna visited Rizzuto a few months before he was killed. The writer, however, doesn't state anything new and is speculating as much as anyone else. The Calabrian vs. Siclian theory is now kind of dated and seems to be taken as a fact by some.


The entire timeline of the Mafia Inc. Online page is taken from the timeline found at

http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/2011-2012/whoskillingtherizzutos/timeline.html

On the Mafia Inc. Online page, I don't see any credit or acknowledgement being given to the cbc.ca The Fifth Estate page.

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Originally Posted By: antimafia
Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
October 2010: Salvatore Montagna tries to convince Nicolo Rizzuto to step down and tells him his reign is over. A month later Rizzuto would be dead.

I'm interested to know how the writer got this information. Previous reports stated that Montagna visited Rizzuto a few months before he was killed. The writer, however, doesn't state anything new and is speculating as much as anyone else. The Calabrian vs. Siclian theory is now kind of dated and seems to be taken as a fact by some.


The entire timeline of the Mafia Inc. Online page is taken from the timeline found at

http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/2011-2012/whoskillingtherizzutos/timeline.html

On the Mafia Inc. Online page, I don't see any credit or acknowledgement being given to the cbc.ca The Fifth Estate page.



Apparently whoever's in charge of that mafia inc online page, likes to lift other people's work and try and pass it off as their own, never giving credit where it's due.


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Re: Inside Montreal’s bloody Mafia war [Re: DickNose_Moltasanti] #656810
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Originally Posted By: DickNose_Moltasanti
Originally Posted By: Strax
Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
October 2010: Salvatore Montagna tries to convince Nicolo Rizzuto to step down and tells him his reign is over. A month later Rizzuto would be dead.

I'm interested to know how the writer got this information. Previous reports stated that Montagna visited Rizzuto a few months before he was killed. The writer, however, doesn't state anything new and is speculating as much as anyone else. The Calabrian vs. Siclian theory is now kind of dated and seems to be taken as a fact by some.


True,i agree.


When reputed Montreal mob boss Vito Rizzuto gets out of prison in October 2012 neither his father nor his son will be there to greet him.

According to mob watcher Antonio Nicaso as reported by Paul Cherry for the Gazette ”This is a very important year because it is one where (Rizzuto) can reaffirm his power or lose it definitely. For sure, he will be very angered that he lost so many members of his family and he is not the type of person to say ‘okay, the past is the past and let’s look to the future.’ I don’t think that will be the case. It could be the year where we find out who is really behind this plot against the Rizzutos. I think the mastermind of these attacks is still hiding in the shadows,” Nicaso said. “I think the mistake we all can make is to write the obituary of the Rizzuto crime family. It’s not the time to write the final word on them. They have the strength and the power to face this unprecedented challenge.”

Time will tell, and we’ll likely know sooner than later.


I hope a mob war breaks out in Canada as well as Philadelphia come October!


Theres already a war going on in canada. Theres not enough actual guys in philly to have a war. Most likely one side would take over and the other side will take it and move on. its not the scarfo mob anymore.

Re: Inside Montreal’s bloody Mafia war [Re: antimafia] #656812
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Originally Posted By: antimafia
The entire timeline of the Mafia Inc. Online page is taken from the timeline found at

http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/2011-2012/whoskillingtherizzutos/timeline.html


Thanks for clearing that up.

Originally Posted By: carmela
Apparently whoever's in charge of that mafia inc online page, likes to lift other people's work and try and pass it off as their own, never giving credit where it's due.


It happens all the time.


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Re: Inside Montreal’s bloody Mafia war [Re: Sonny_Black] #656838
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Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black



Originally Posted By: carmela
Apparently whoever's in charge of that mafia inc online page, likes to lift other people's work and try and pass it off as their own, never giving credit where it's due.


It happens all the time.


That doesn't make it right. And I don't like them.


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Re: Inside Montreal’s bloody Mafia war [Re: antimafia] #656961
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The writer credits CBC news. He is also mentions the source of information came from Agence QMI, LaPress.ca, The Canadian Press, National Post, Montreal Gazette, Reuters, The Sixth family, by Adrian Humphreys, TVA Nouvelles. It's all in the credits down the bottom of the article. Seems like he just gathered news from all kinds of sources on the net. I agree with the original post.. Best article I've ever seen on the Montreal mob war.

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Your article just sums up everything that has already been stated. It literally copies parts of texts from its sources.


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Originally Posted By: Strax
Like u would ever post on that page


After I posted in this thread, I went back to mafiainc.online for shits and giggles and noticed that I am suddenly un-banned from there. Ain't that something? wink

I still wouldn't post there.


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Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Conti who..? What are you guys talking about?

I ment the guy in charge before Paulo Vailo or whatever his man is. Vic i think hs his name was.

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Vic Cotroni?


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Originally Posted By: Montague
Vic Cotroni?


Who else? whistle


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Thats him, i remember him from the docu on Vito working with th bikers in canada to sell his dope.

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Learn more about Vic Cotroni. There use to be a great video from the 70's with two CBC reporters cornering him outside his car and he gives a great interview.


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Re: Inside Montreal’s bloody Mafia war [Re: Strax] #658577
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Montreal mafia war is over. It's been over since montagna died. Vengeance was served. I said it before that American gangsters could not handle Montreal. In Montreal we don't extort from our own people. We don't extort from working class Italian businessmen. He tried. He tried taxing a lot. Now he's dead. Vito will be back. Lopresti, Suzuki and montagna all part of his revenge. Ice cream guy will be next. He's already on the run.

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Originally Posted By: Tonymtl
Vito will be back.

Do you think Italy has a chance to get him extradited?


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2) "Get out of here, old man. Go tell Raymond to go shit in his hat. We're not giving you anything."
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I don't think so.

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Why?


Willie Marfeo to Henry Tameleo:

1) "You people want a loaf of bread and you throw the crumbs back. Well, fuck you. I ain't closing down."

2) "Get out of here, old man. Go tell Raymond to go shit in his hat. We're not giving you anything."
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