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most powerful in atlantic city? #629900
01/16/12 03:07 PM
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was wondering which family currently has the most power in atlantic city? ive heard that the gambinos are pretty active ther and im sure philly still has more than a few rackets going on. what about the genovese family?


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Re: most powerful in atlantic city? [Re: Five_Felonies] #629916
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Back when casino gambling was legalized, both the Genovese and Gambino families were said to have moved in their pretty quickly. They became involved in the ancillary services to the casinos and the Genovese family even shared control of HERE Local 54's funds with Scarfo. But that was quite a while ago. AC now has a pretty good oversight in keeping mob-connected companies from doing work in the hotels and casinos. What mob activity there is comes in the form of the sports betting networks extending through there. And maybe because of geography more than anything, the Philadelphia family seems to have had the most presence there recently.


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Re: most powerful in atlantic city? [Re: IvyLeague] #629917
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Originally Posted By: IvyLeague
Back when casino gambling was legalized, both the Genovese and Gambino families were said to have moved in their pretty quickly. They became involved in the ancillary services to the casinos and the Genovese family even shared control of HERE Local 54's funds with Scarfo. But that was quite a while ago. AC now has a pretty good oversight in keeping mob-connected companies from doing work in the hotels and casinos. What mob activity there is comes in the form of the sports betting networks extending through there. And maybe because of geography more than anything, the Philadelphia family seems to have had the most presence there recently.
thank you very much for the insight, and for the record your posts have always been very informative and accurate and its one of the main reasons i joined these boards!


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Re: most powerful in atlantic city? [Re: Five_Felonies] #629921
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What Vegas was to Chicago is what AC is to the Eastern Families. Chicago divvied up what was to be made in Vegas; KC, Detroit, St. Louis, etc. Though no one does that with AC, it's more shared equally between Philly, Genovese, and Gambinos.


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I would say Phila has the low level street rackets ! However NY has the real money ,with construction,trash ,and suppliers ! Can't tell you of any NY guys setting up shop in twenty years !

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In his book Blood Oath, George Freselone talked about how, because of the fear of organized crime infiltration into the Atlantic City casinos, it was a different situation for the mob than Las Vegas. The oversight was much tighter from the beginning so it wasn't really possible for the mob to control the casinos directly like they had in Vegas. So, instead of going through the "front door," as Freselone put it, Scarfo went through the "back door" by controlling the Local 54 of the Hotel Employees & Restaurant Employees Union. With the threat of labor problems, that gave them influence over the casinos as far as who got contracts for ancillary services and what not.

But the biggest involvement in the beginning was probably in the construction of the hotels and casinos themselves. Freselone said Scarfo made a deal with the NY families where they got the construction contracts if he got Local 54. It did end up being this way for the most part. But a couple Scarfo companies - Scarf Inc. and Nat Nat - were involved in the building. And the Genovese family later shared control of the Local's funds with Scarfo.

As for recent years, there hasn't been much news. A couple mob-connected companies from both New York and Philadelphia have had trouble getting contracts and that's made the papers. But beyond that, there was just the gambling bust a few years ago where the Philly mob was running a sports betting operation out of the Borgata casino.


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Re: most powerful in atlantic city? [Re: Five_Felonies] #630011
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Borgata casino, what a name!


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Re: most powerful in atlantic city? [Re: Nicholas] #630041
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Originally Posted By: Nicholas
Borgata casino, what a name!


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Re: most powerful in atlantic city? [Re: Five_Felonies] #630306
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Atlantic City isn't the "Atlantic City" of the 1980s anymore, most of those casinos are losing money. I doubt there is THAT much money to be made there.

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Anyone know of any NY transplants sent down to AC to control the rackets ?

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Originally Posted By: Boardwalkguy
Anyone know of any NY transplants sent down to AC to control the rackets ?


I think what's been said is there isn't much there that needs direct controlling. The mob's sports betting networks run through there, down to Florida or up to the northeast as the case may be, but considering it's all done by computers or phone anyway, it's not like the NY families need somebody right there overseeing things.


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