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Geary's defense?
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12/22/11 10:48 PM
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Hagen acted with perfect timing in snaring Sen. Geary in the brothel: just soon enough so that the drugged Geary realized he was in big trouble; but well before he was able to think clearly and figure out that he’d fallen into a Corleone trap. Geary leaped at Hagen’s reassurance—“it’ll be as if she never existed”—and when he agreed to spend the night at Michael’s home in Tahoe, his coglioni were in Michael’s pocket. But, if he’d had his wits about him, he could have made an early and overpowering counterattack:
Geary had two big advantages over Michael. First, Geary was a major pezzanovante, and was far better connected with state and federal law enforcement, politicians and judges than Michael. Because of his “legitimate” front, I’m guessing that Michael didn’t think he needed anything like the police/political protection his father needed because Vito’s illegitimate businesses were out on the street and constantly vulnerable. Second, Geary was a Nevada native, which counted for a lot among Nevada pezzanovanti and voters, who looked down on outsiders and new arrivals (we saw a perfect example in the scene between Ace Rothstein and County Commissioner Webb in “Casino”). It’s what emboldened Geary to demand a huge, dirty bribe from Michael while denouncing “the way you come into this clean country, with your oily hair, silk suits…”
So, if Geary had been able to think clearly, he could have gone to the Nevada State Police and the FBI hierarchy with a story that he’d been grabbed by a couple of men as he got into his car, and drugged—awakening in a brothel with a dead hooker next to him. Oh, and that brothel was operated by Fredo Corleone. Seems Geary had been at his brother’s estate not long before, in his official capacity, to accept an endowment for the State University. Afterward, Michael importuned him to improperly use his influence to help force Klingman out of the Tropigala Hotel and have Klingman’s license transferred to Michael or his associates. Of course Geary, ever the honest politician, refused. And so, wasn't there a strong connection between Geary’s refusal of Michael’s demand, and his waking up drugged and set up in Fredo Corleone’s brothel?
Far-fetched as the story might sound, Geary would use it to stimulate the Staties and FBI to investigate Michael's Mob background and continued ties to NY Mafia, and to leak it to news media. At minimum, it’d create just enough doubts about Geary’s guilt for him to duck a murder indictment. And, while the incident might temporarily cost Geary votes, Michael’s background would be exposed publicly. Even if he, Neri or Hagen weren’t charged with the hooker’s murder, Michael’s “legitimate” cover would be blown forever. Geary might even get the Gaming Commission to revoke Michael’s licenses due to his “failure to disclose criminal connections."
Of course Geary wasn’t in any shape to think so clearly that night. But, he attempted revenge several weeks later at the Senate hearings:
As a member of the subcommittee that was investigating Michael, Geary had to know that Pentangeli had survived, and that they were holding him in secret as a witness against Michael. So, when Geary asked Cicci a question seemingly helpful to Michael—“Did you ever get a direct order from him [Michael], or was there always a buffer?” and Cicci replied, “No, I never talked to him,” Michael relaxed. He was lulled into thinking that Cicci was the top-ranking witness against him. And, since Cicci testified that he never got a direct order from Michael, it was ok for him to lie under oath. Geary played the key role in tricking Michael into committing perjury five times. It almost succeeded.
Your thoughts?
Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu, E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu... E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
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Re: Geary's defense?
[Re: mustachepete]
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12/23/11 03:30 PM
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Just to follow up on something: I've always assumed that Geary wasn't actually part of the committee, because he excuses himself to go elsewhere and I can't imagine a member of such a high profile committee doing that. I don't think that it would be an exceptional circumstance for a senator to sit in on a committee hearing without being a member of the committee, provided that he had some interest in the subject matter. Actually, since there are usually about 20 Senate standing committees and only 100 Senators, each Senator is a member of several committees and most Senators are the Chair or vice-chair of at least one committee or sub-committee. Given constraints on a Senator's time, it's unlikely that a Senator would sit in on the proceedings of a committee of which he was not a member.
Last edited by olivant; 12/24/11 12:35 AM.
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Re: Geary's defense?
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So dead hooker=horse's head. Oddly enough, that parallel didn't occur to me - spot on. Geary was an arrogant, bigoted crook, but he wasn't an idiot. After the shock wore off, he'd have realised what really happened, that there was absolutely nothing he could do about it, and that if he tried, scandal would be the least of his worries.
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Re: Geary's defense?
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TB's suggestion is not that far fetched given the mentality in 1978. In those days regardless of how much womanizing Geary did (and apparently he was quite open about it...note his comment in front of all the pezzanovante in Havana about wanting one of those red headed Yolanda's) the press would never have written about it, and it would have re-told the story of his "abduction." If it happened in this day and age I don't think he would have been able to pull it off.
Very true, dt. The media routinely gave politicos a pass on all their womanizing. During one of FDR's trips to Warm Springs GA, he had the train detour to Flemington NJ so he could dally with his mistress, Lucy Rutherford. Eighty reporters were on the train--nobody reported it. She, not Eleanor, was with him when he died. JFK, the second-greatest sexual athlete of the 20th century, got passes every time even though every reporter knew what he was up to. Now we hear about everything--even Bill Clinton having Peyronie's Disease.
Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu, E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu... E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
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Re: Geary's defense?
[Re: Turnbull]
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01/03/12 04:36 PM
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TB's suggestion is not that far fetched given the mentality in 1978. In those days regardless of how much womanizing Geary did (and apparently he was quite open about it...note his comment in front of all the pezzanovante in Havana about wanting one of those red headed Yolanda's) the press would never have written about it, and it would have re-told the story of his "abduction." If it happened in this day and age I don't think he would have been able to pull it off.
Very true, dt. The media routinely gave politicos a pass on all their womanizing. During one of FDR's trips to Warm Springs GA, he had the train detour to Flemington NJ so he could dally with his mistress, Lucy Rutherford. Eighty reporters were on the train--nobody reported it. She, not Eleanor, was with him when he died. JFK, the second-greatest sexual athlete of the 20th century, got passes every time even though every reporter knew what he was up to. Now we hear about everything--even Bill Clinton having Peyronie's Disease. At the time of Clinton's escapads, I remember hearing report fro a reliable reorter that EVERY president since FDR except Truman and Carter had extraamarital affairs.
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Re: Geary's defense?
[Re: dontomasso]
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01/04/12 10:57 AM
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TB's suggestion is not that far fetched given the mentality in 1978. In those days regardless of how much womanizing Geary did (and apparently he was quite open about it...note his comment in front of all the pezzanovante in Havana about wanting one of those red headed Yolanda's) the press would never have written about it, and it would have re-told the story of his "abduction." If it happened in this day and age I don't think he would have been able to pull it off.
Very true, dt. The media routinely gave politicos a pass on all their womanizing. During one of FDR's trips to Warm Springs GA, he had the train detour to Flemington NJ so he could dally with his mistress, Lucy Rutherford. Eighty reporters were on the train--nobody reported it. She, not Eleanor, was with him when he died. JFK, the second-greatest sexual athlete of the 20th century, got passes every time even though every reporter knew what he was up to. Now we hear about everything--even Bill Clinton having Peyronie's Disease. At the time of Clinton's escapads, I remember hearing report fro a reliable reorter that EVERY president since FDR except Truman and Carter had extraamarital affairs. Yes, politicians are like pro athletes - infidelity is part of their culture. According to some biographers, LBJ was little more than a serial rapist. Back on topic, I can't imagine Geary getting into a PR war with the Corleones. Aside from the personal danger he'd be in, the risk would be far greater than the reward. His squeaky-clean image would be ruined and the newspapermen on the Corleones payroll certainly would have gotten the dirt on Geary all over the press. Going along with the Corleones cost him the opportunity to squeeze Michael but kept his career and liberty (after all, there was a murdered girl) intact.
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Re: Geary's defense?
[Re: The Last Woltz]
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02/03/12 01:00 PM
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TB's suggestion is not that far fetched given the mentality in 1978. In those days regardless of how much womanizing Geary did (and apparently he was quite open about it...note his comment in front of all the pezzanovante in Havana about wanting one of those red headed Yolanda's) the press would never have written about it, and it would have re-told the story of his "abduction." If it happened in this day and age I don't think he would have been able to pull it off.
Very true, dt. The media routinely gave politicos a pass on all their womanizing. During one of FDR's trips to Warm Springs GA, he had the train detour to Flemington NJ so he could dally with his mistress, Lucy Rutherford. Eighty reporters were on the train--nobody reported it. She, not Eleanor, was with him when he died. JFK, the second-greatest sexual athlete of the 20th century, got passes every time even though every reporter knew what he was up to. Now we hear about everything--even Bill Clinton having Peyronie's Disease. At the time of Clinton's escapads, I remember hearing report fro a reliable reorter that EVERY president since FDR except Truman and Carter had extraamarital affairs. Yes, politicians are like pro athletes - infidelity is part of their culture. According to some biographers, LBJ was little more than a serial rapist. Who are these "some biographers"? I never heard anything about LBJ being a rapist. Even Robert Caro, a biographer of Johnson who is highly critical of him, has never said that.
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