Justice for all is a good flick too. And I agree with Donnie Brasco; you listen to the tapes with Lefty talking to Pistone on the phone and then Pacinos performance in the movie and it's like listening to the two same people.

I agree with that completely. Dog day afternoon is one of my favorite pacino performances if not my favorite. But people really only know him as Michael corleone rather than sonny wortzik it seems. I always thought de niro was great in midnight run, the fan, cape fear and deer hunter too. Pacino was also great in Carlito's way. I thought De Niro was great in his new movie silver linings playbook too. I think he won the oscar for it but I'm not sure. I know he was at least nominated. I felt he should've won. But De Niro was also extremely versatile as an actor. Some other actors I feel that are great are jack Nicholson, Denzel Washington, marlon Brando and so on. I think Jonny Depp is really something special. He can play pretty much any role at a high level.

His performance in, ...And Justice For All is ridiculously underrated. I get that people wouldn't want to watch a random 70's courtroom drama, but it's one of his best imo. The same for Deniro in King of Comedy, i barely know anyone who's seen that movie but imo it's Deniro's best performance.

I agree. Justice for all was great. I think he might've over-acted a little bit in that but still a stellar performance and I think one of his best. I don't think I've seen king of comedy. Would love to see it though. My favorite performance by De Niro is either as him as Vito or jake Lamotta. Both flawless. Idk if I've ever seen a better performance than his as Vito corleone to be honest. When I saw it I really thought he wasn't an American. I didn't even know it was him. And I saw mean streets! I didn't know it was him until I saw his name in the credits.

What people, you? I think you're either underrating Pacino or overrating Deniro. I completely agree with you on Deniro i prefer him too , but can you point towards his versatility compared to Pacino?

In all honesty i wouldn't say either are incredibly versatile. Not many actors are. My favourite actor ever, Humphrey Bogart played more or less the same character in every movie.

One versatile actor that popped into my mind right away was Gary Oldman, Sid Vicious, Leon villain, Dracula, Beethoven, Commissioner Gordon,etc.

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That's my opinion. You ask people who they know al pacino as on the street and they'll say Michael corleone. People think of him as Michael corleone more so than any character he's played. He's had some great roles but honestly I've never been as impressed with him as others have been. That is after godfather trilogy and dog day afternoon of course. He seemed to over-act a lot by yelling. He also had a lot of sudden silences in pretty much everyone one of his movies. Not all of course, but a lot. I wouldn't really say that that in itself is great acting. And yelling and sudden silences seem to be his signature. In most credible top actor list you would see de niro ahead of pacino. And De Niro is much more versatile than pacino. Look at his roles compared to pacino's. Al's haven't been too much different from each other. De Niro's have been more various than Pacino's. And I feel like De Niro invests more into his movies. He basically acts as a co-director from what all of his documentaries have said. And he's been in 70 something movies compared to pacino who hasn't been in nearly as much. Most of their movies haven't been that good, but the ones that are, are legendary. Not every movie is gonna be great. But in the end, both are legends, both are in my top 10 but I definitely prefer De Niro over him.

And yes Oldman is great and versatile. But he is not on the level of De Niro or Pacino. In order to be compared to them you have to be on their level. I would compared Denzel to them, Brando, Nicholson, mike Douglas, Harrison ford, robin Williams etc to them.

Nice pic of Al Lettieri. I'm a big fan of his, Al was a real badass. He was great as Rudy in The Getaway.
Al Lettieri and Steve McQueen...you don't get much cooler then those 2 guys.



In the Getaway he has Harold all tied up and he's banging Harold's girl played by Sally Struthers right in front of him...lol! What a shame Lettieri died so young, i think he was 47 or 48 when he died. He had a great career ahead of him IMO, a real loss.

I asked you to show Deniro's versatility compared to Al's, as i expected you didn't make a case for either . Again you've attributed Pacino to The Godfaher, without watching or at least acknowledging his other roles. It doesn't matter what you decide is a defining role.

What does this mean anyway - Al's haven't been too much different from each other. De Niro's have been more various than Pacino's. And I feel like De Niro invests more into his movies.

Cape fear, taxi driver, goodfellas, bloody mama, meet the parents, analyze this(both comedies), bang the drum slowly, raging bull, the fan, everybody's fine, silver linings playbook are all very different from each other. And I did acknowledge his other roles. Go back and read it. I said he was great in Godfather 1&2, dog day afternoon, Carlito's way, serpico, Donnie brasco and justice for all. Al Pacino's roles all haven't been too much different from each other. He plays best as a mobster or cop. He plays the same roles for the most part. Pacino is not good at comedy while De Niro has proved to be very good at comedy. I'm not saying in my opinion but based on his general reception when he was doing his comedy acts. De Niro has more range to go from character to character it seems. When I say he invests more, I mean look at what he did for raging bull, he gained like 60 pounds to portray the older jake Lamotta. He didn't eat for days to play his dug addicted character in bloody mama, he was a taxi driver in manhattan so he could get his role down for taxi driver, he even went to Sicily and lived there in order to get the language down for the Godfather 2. He always wanted to get his character down to the tee. For instance, when he played jimmy Conway he wanted to know the big things and little things about him, such as how he held a cigarette and so on. Based on the documentaries I've seen of him, he is basically the unofficial co-director because he always has input on his movies. Not all of them I'm sure, but many of them. Such as Scorsese's movies. Scorsese has said that De Niro helps a lot in the directing process and always has ideas on how to make the movie better.

And don't forget, just because a movie isn't that good doesn't mean that there aren't great performances in them. Pacino and De Niro have produced some bad movies where they have had very good to even great performances in my opinion.

When you put Pascale Eboli, did you mean Pasquale? I'm pretty sure that's Tommy Eboli's brother as well.

Can anyone find a picture of a Peter Monteleone he was a solider in the Bonanno crew and was with Anthony spero and carmine gelante

And they used to call him "Harry James"

Does anyone have pics of Anthony Speros Social Club In Bklyn ny it i think was located on Bath Ave & Bay 17

Yes, it is or was Pasquale Eboli.

Heres the original Vanity Fair article with the picture that talks about the day that Al Lettieri brought Pacino over to his relative Eboli's house. I think he also brought Brando there too, either the same day or another day. I forget which.

http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/features/2009/03/godfather-family200903

Al Lettieri was a badass!

Hey.Does anyone have pics of Anthony Speros Social Club In Bklyn ny it i think was located on Bath Ave & Bay 17

Great thread this, and one of the best corners of the internets, thanks to all for sharing

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I have the feeling you've recently watched DeNiro's biography on the Bio Channel like myself lol

i recently watched dog day afternoon, i got it in a 5dollar and under bin @ walmart, great flick, even had fredo from godfather fame, did that guy just have a few good movies or was he just a lucky sob for a few flicks or maybe a friend of al, anyhow i agree great movies, i love the serpico voice from the guy in always sunny in philly, "whoaaa"

Current philly guys recent photo...

Chang, Lance, Grande, Wagner recent photo

The Acting Boss, His number 2 guy and the wives.

Phillys Old boss Skinny Joey Merlino with his wife in summer 2013 in florida

Mazzone's wife is smoking hot....not for nuthin but for a 50 year old guy who just finished up a 14 year bid joey looks great.

Let the gay jokes begin..

Yea Mazzones wife is probably one of the sexiest mob wives ive ever seen! and Joey was working out for them 14 years and ive read reports that he goes to the gym daily still since being released.

can someone post Mazzone's wife? So far Joe's is the prettiest... also you can't really judge unless you smell and touch a person... sorry.. gotta add to the commentary loll

Now I know Mazzones wifes name was Danielle Mazzone but someone reminded me the other day that he was seen with his wife on a mob talk video a few years back and she was a blonde.