The biggest clown listed as an associate is Wagner, he has more stories then Walt Disney, and as unbelievable too!

Funny that you call those guys clowns when stanfa and his guys were some of the biggest clowns ever. Martines? Pagano? Tripodi? Veasey? Those guys were first class losers.

hahahaha

The real clowns are u motherfuckers on here fighting over who is real or who just is a bubblegum gangster.

Boys.... cut out the name calling.

For the record, I didn't make the Philly chart. They were compiled by a few different posters over on the Real Deal forum. The upper echelon of the family is more certain. As well as the soldiers. When you get into the lower level associates, that's when it becomes more of a grey area about where they stand. In any event, if you have a complaint about the chart, feel free to take it up with them over there.

That's all true, IvyLeague, but you are posting that chart here and you should be taking the responsibility for it here.

Fair enough. If any have problems with it, let's hear them. Like I said before, all those identified as members - from boss down to the soldiers - is pretty well documented.

As for the associates, if I had done the chart, I'd probably have left them out. Simply because the definition of what constitutes an associate can vary greatly.

Here's an alphabetical list of Philadelphia made members. It includes all - active, inactive, in prison, etc.



1. Ralph "Ralphie Head" Abbruzzi/61
2. Anthony "Tony Cujino" Accardo/49
3. Martin "Marty" Angelina/48 (UI)
4. Michael “Mikey” Angelina/41
5. Anthony Borgesi/41
6. Gennaro "Joseph Costello" Boccia/57
7. Joseph “Bongs” Bongiovanni/61
8. George "Freckles" Borgesi/47 (IP/7/03/2012)
9. Damion “Dame” Canalichio/41 (IP/12/18/2011)
10. Stephen "Stevie Gongs" Casasanto/37
11. Vincent "Beepsie" Centorino/79
12. John "Johnny Chang" Ciancaglini/52
13. Joseph “Chickie” Ciancaglini Sr/76 (5/04/2015)
14. Joseph "Joey Chang" Ciancaglini Jr/52
15. Martin "Marty Crutch" Curro/55
16. Louis "Big Lou" Fazzini/41
17. Vincent F "Big Vince" Filipelli/58 (IP/8/9/2011)
18. Frank Gambino/77
19. Joseph Grande/50 (IP/3/05/2011)
20. Francis "Faffy" Iannarella Jr/63 (IP/7/8/2016)
21. Charles "Charlie White" Iannece/76 (IP/5/03/2011)
22. Vincent "Vince" Iannece/43
23. Albert “Ally Lance/Cousin Al” Lancelotti/43
24. Michael ""Mikey Lance"" Lancelotti/48
25. Joseph "Scoops" Licata/68
26. Joseph “Uncle Joe” Ligambi/71
27. Philip “Philly” Ligambi/61
28. Gaeton Lucibello/57
29. Guerino "Gino" Marconi/79
30. Frank Martines/57 (IP/L)
31. Joseph C "Mousie" Massimino/61
32. Salvatore "Sonny" Mazzone/38
33. Steven "Handsome Steve" Mazzone/47
34. Joseph "Skinny Joey" Merlino/48 (IP/9/7/2011)
35. Salvatore "Chucky" Merlino/71 (IP/8/03/2016)
36. Nicholas "Nicky Whip" Milano/48
37. Frank “Windows” Narducci Jr/55
38. Phillip Narducci/48 (IP/5/20/2012)
39. Anthony “Tony Nics” Nicodemo/37
40. Nicholas A “Nicky O” Olivieri/63
41. Anthony "Martino/Blonde Babe" Pungitore Sr/87
42. Anthony "Tony Pung" Pungitore Jr/54
43. Joseph "Joey Pung" Pungitore/53
44. Dominic Rugnetta/86
45. Salvatore "Tory" Scafidi/49 (IP/3/5/2011)
46. Nicodemo "Little Nicky" Scarfo Sr/81 (IP/1/05/2033)
47. Antonio “Nino” Sciglitano/80
48. Salvatore “Shotsie” Sparacio/89 (IP/5/04/2020)
49. Anthony “Tony S/Ants” Staino/55
50. Ralph "Junior" Staino/77
51. John Stanfa/70 (IP/L)
52. Joseph “Joey” Stanfa/41
53. Luigi “Gino” Tripodi/70
54. Shawn D Vetere/42

I don't think stevie gongs is a made guy and I think gino marconi is dead.

Yeah, there has been some question on the other forum about whether Stevie Gongs is made. And I believe Marconi was killed back in 1999. If that's the case, I don't know why he's still on that list. But it's mostly up to date.

any news on joey..Also, from what i have read and heard STAINO is the largest earner in the family..

Actually, that chart was one of the best I have seen in a long time on philly. The one with the pictures on the real deal. It says if they are associates or not. Associate means just that. It lists the higher end guys and the soilders. I dont' see the problem.
Quote From your post, "anyway ....just trying to say that the real LCN are the ones you never ever read about...until they strike hard and with vengence...get it"

Get what? Who are the real LCN in Philly then that you don't read about? Because that chart had them on there as well. its just a chart its not going to be 100% accurate. We are on the internet discussing this. It doesn't have to be a fight. So you think some guys shouldn't be on there and believe me... so do I but most of those guys are associates and the one guy Procopio I remember you mentioned in your post is not robbing candy stores. I know for a fact he is a real associate and has a pretty decent book that makes him money among other things. Hes no made guy but hes not listed as one. Thats what makes this chart even better. Why are we even arguing over this. If you think you can put together a better one, I would like to see it. Anyone can put together the higher ups and shit but this list had pictures and even some assoicates that are correct. I never seen a chart from philly with assoicates and all listed that is recent. I know assoicates that aren't listed that should be on there and ones that shouldn't be on there to but this is a fourm. You can't say you know each and everyones criminal history that is listed on that chart. Thats why we are here to discuss it.

I dont think Stevie was ever made either. Stevie hangs with that Victor kid I mentioned yesterday.

Ivy, that's a different Gino Marconi. The one killed in '99 was a drug dealer, the one I'm speaking of who died recently was an old time Bruno guy.

OK, that makes a lot more sense.

I though about it and quite frankly, no one should be putting any names up on this blog. Some of the people you have listed are not criminals. The list is slandering names. So if I say clown or a hole, thats because you are listing people that have no business being on the list. You talk about hanging on corners like its some kind of cool think sp. Let me tell you, I do live in South Philly. And I grew up up on 6 and tasker. So I know what it is hanging on corners. It is for low lives, and 95% of the people you listed are low level criminal low lives not LCN. LCN controls all the docks in philly, L&I, Airport, and unions. They do not deal in drugs. The African Americans control all the drug trade in Philly. Most of the people you listed get their drugs from the Africans in North Philly. So get your shit straight before you post lists with people names you find doing arrest searchies on google.

Now I get it! You live on 6th and Tasker! I would probably be a racist to if I lived in that neighborhood : )

I will let someone else rebut your BS post I don't have the time its so ridiculous.

Rebut[ri-buht]
verb, -but·ted, -but·ting.
to provide some evidence or argument that refutes or opposes

lol...just want to make sure you understand, afterall you live on 6th and tasker.

Listen pal, there are plenty of local Philly guys over on the other forum who have seen that chart too and haven't complained. And there are charts of various families, with tons, of names all over the net. So spare me the "slander" nonsense.

And for the record, the LCN in Philadelphia does not control the docks, the airport, etc. They've never even been involved in those industries. They're not New York. As far as unions, during the Scarfo ere they controlled HEREU Local 54, of course, but that was gone in the early 1990's. The family there has basically been a street operation for the last 20 years now - gambling, loansharking, extortion, drug trafficking, stolen goods, etc.

You need to get your shit straight...

I read something somewhere - it may have been on this board - about some members of the New York Families (?specifically Chin?) supporting the ouster of Bruno. I am only beginning to familiarize myself with the Phillly Family and am wondering (1) if there is anything to this and (2) why. Thanks!

There was no official sanction for the removal of Bruno as boss. Some elements of the Genovese Family made Bruno's counselor (Anthony Caponigro) believe that there was because they had been previously involved in a dispute over numbers/bookmaking/gambling in New Jersey with Caponigro.

So after Bruno's demise Caponigro was summoned to NY to explain himself. Apparently his defense that he had permission was not believed and he was also removed from the planet. And his Jersey gambling interests were taken over by the Genoveses.

I agree, stanfa your joking to think philly is controlling airports and unions. Ivy league are you stating that no one actually got an ok from any of the five families to conduct business in Philly. It seems like that is starting to be the case in many other smaller cities...I don't believe there is much for the mob other than being just street gangs anymore...nothing more then just bullying, drugs, and extortion...even gambling has been outsourced to India...lol with online gambling. Are the LCN mailnly a Sicilian organization in philly.

ahh, mr stinkyman, let me explain, and spmob don't get mad at me its just an opinion. Heres my take on the sp mafia, and remember i'm from 6th and tasker, so my view may be a little diferent if your from packer park=lol

My opinion is everyone you have listed from 10th & Oregon should be removed. None of them are killers. The so called mafia who run the streets of sp simply are a mirage for popular PR and Media. Most of the guys you have listed simply hang in bars as I stated before. None of them as far as I know are made guys. They are the PR glamour that keeps people like us intersted. When Stanfa went away things were left a stray on the streets. So guys in the Merlino crew started demanding street tax from the dealers on the streets. Thats about it and some book making. In fact I personally know a dealer in SP that makes over 500k selling H and he doesn't pay any street tax to anyone on your list. So again I ask who is the SP mafia. And he buys all his stufff from North Philly from Africans- can i say african here

Seriously, seriously awsesome chart.
Does anyone know how Phil Jr of the South Jersey/Staino Crew is related to Joe?

What I'm saying is the Philadelphia family, or any other for that matter, never controlled entire legitimate industries like the families in New York did. Various families around the country controlled a number of union locals, but not to the extent to where they could control things like construction, the waterfront, garbage, the airports, etc. Furthermore, today the vast majority of the remaining labor union racketeering activity is in New York/New Jersey. Very little elsewhere. For the remaining 4 small families outside New York, which consists of New England, New Jersey, Philadelphia, and Chicago - is mostly the standard street rackets.

One thing I need to correct you on though is about gambling. The legal state lottery certainly took away most of the business from the old numbers operations. But sports betting is different. People have the mistaken idea that online gambling has hurt the mob. It's actually helped it. Most mob gambling operations are done via offshore internet sites and wire rooms now. And the mob no longer has to have it's own wire rooms in the U.S. where they can be raided. When you take the the money that still comes into the mob from sports betting, numbers, video poker, and card games, illegal gambling is still it's main source of income, both in New York and everywhere else.

The South Philly Mafia is the guys you see on those charts. If you want to take certain people off, fine, but there are still plenty there otherwise.

If you look at the cases involving the family over the past decade, you're mainly looking at sports betting, video poker machines, loansharking, extortion, fencing stolen goods, and drug trafficking. Though the involvement in narcotics seems to have tapered off since Ligambi took over. Local law enforcement says that the mob will invest on an initial buy but that's where the involvement usually ends. They don't seem to be deeply involved in the drug trade. And the street tax was always geared more towards independent bookies and loansharks. Much more so than independent drug dealers.

You may find this article of interest....

http://www.phillymag.com/articles/what_ever_happened_to_the_south_philly_mob/

Phil is Joe Ligambi's brother. I don't think he was made until Joe got the big seat. Hes a real nice guy. He sits on the beach with his brother in the summer in Longport, NJ. Thats about the only time you see the higher ups out in public is down the shore. they stay low key now.

As far as street tax...no there isn't that anymore. I know people who do the same. No one said that. The only dealing really in drugs as for the mafia is giving guys loans to start up there business and then the the dealer gives him the money back plus some. The other rackets are originals. I think you know more about the drug trade in your neighborhood cause you mention H. No one was saying your friend has to pay street tax

Stanfa..you have yet to name who these so called REAL mafia guys are. You say it but provide no proof. That chart included Higher up, soilders and some associates. Some associates are and others aren't...we all agree on that.

And yes..I am one of those guys who hung on the corner that you call punks and now I live in packer park and have a good job and family. I grew up round 9th and ritner. Sorry your still on 6th and tasker. . And who listed anyone from 10th an O? There were like 3 guys as associates on that chart and they are just that...associates. Where are you getting your info from? Cause not only do i get mine on the street...but I actually read and do research because it interests me...not just mafia..im intersted in history and crime. So please read something by George Anastasia. He will open your mind to the true LCN if philly.

Ivey...good topic about legalize gambling. Most people don't undertand how it has helped. Not only that...no matter if online or your going to Deleware to bet on sports. They are also trying for sports betting in AC to now. But who is going to run to these places to make bets on sports. Especially football season when a guy loses a 1pm game and then wants to chase and bet on the 4pm game. Hes not going to drive to Delaware/AC. Plus you have to have the money first in these situations. If you dealing with your local guy, he will just tax you and make more money of you because bookies are sharks anyways.

hey spmob sounds like your a local philly guy that has a lot of insight to the mafia there. You mentioned reading some articles from george anastasia, I started reading blood and honor , very good reading. Wonder if Anastatia is somehow releated to Albert Anastasia from NY. I read some very cool stuff on him he was a pure madman in NY, he basically started the mafia in NY. The name Anastasia still carries a lot of weight in NY in fact I believe some of the mafia in NY still has ties to that family. Just ironique if that the guy writiing artcles in Philly may be a relation through families.... ??

the only thing u got right in this post was that anastasia was a mad man and that blood and honor was a good read. the mafia was started long ago, even before luciano who just kinda modernized it. the mafia in NYC dates back to the 19th century. george only wishes he was related to albert anastasia then he might have something better to report on than joey merlino catchin rays down in florida.