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Re: The Swimmer - 1968
[Re: olivant]
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06/19/10 02:47 PM
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Signor Vitelli
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This has always been one of my favorite films - but certainly, a difficult film to watch and definitely not for everyone.
And, with the rather unexpected and downbeat ending, you feel (or, at least, I did) that you want to watch the whole thing over again to see the clues leading up to the final scene.
As I recall, though, the scene with Janice Rule was shot after the film was completed at the studio's insistance and over Burt Lancaster's objections. (It was shot in California while everything else was shot on the east coast.)
The Swimmer is one of those films which has, over time, become quite a bit more appreciated than it was upon its initial theatrical release.
I can actually remember the first time I saw it: it was on a little black and white television around 1973 or 1974 when I was in college; my roommate was rather indifferent to it while I was riveted and could not turn away (except during the commercials). Several years later, I was able to get an uncut copy on videotape, which I still have.
Excellent and disturbing film.
Signor V.
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Re: The Swimmer - 1968
[Re: Signor Vitelli]
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06/19/10 04:47 PM
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...As I recall, though, the scene with Janice Rule was shot after the film was completed at the studio's insistance and over Burt Lancaster's objections ... I've read that too (on imdb). The role of the former mistress was originally played by Barbara Loden. Apparently Loden overpowered Lancaster's character to a significant enough degree that it somehow affected the flow of the film. The scene was later reshot with Janice Rule, who's performance served to restore "...balance to the scene..." It would be very interesting to one day be able to see that scene with the original actress, however it was almost certainly destroyed or long lost in a vault somewhere. Apple
Last edited by AppleOnYa; 06/19/10 04:51 PM.
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Re: The Swimmer - 1968
[Re: AppleOnYa]
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06/23/10 12:46 PM
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Wow, this stirred up some dormant brain cells. I started dating my wife-to-be at the end of 1967. Going to the movies was a big date thing back then. We were freshman in college. We took in every movie of the day; in particular anything considered "artsy". The Swimmer was one of those. I remember it being somewhat dark. I've never seen it since. Burt Lancaster was one of my favorite actors; handsome, athletic, understated. Loved him in The Jim Thorpe Story, Bird Man of Alcatraz, Elmer Gantry, Atlantic City, Field of Dreams, and some circus movie with Tony Curtis.
Whoever exalts himself will be humbled, whoever humbles himself will be exalted - Matthew 23:12
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