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If not mike than who? #573767
05/14/10 02:00 PM
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sonny having more holes than swiss cheese and the don fertilizing his garden.. who would have been the don if mike was found and killed?

Re: If not mike than who? [Re: Don_Brasi] #573781
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There might have been an internecine struggle among the family's capos. However, Barzini and the other families would have used their influence to pick a don.


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Re: If not mike than who? [Re: Don_Brasi] #573786
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Originally Posted By: Don_Brasi
sonny having more holes than swiss cheese and the don fertilizing his garden.. who would have been the don if mike was found and killed?


Your time frame isn't clear. Since your question puts the time frame after Vito's death, I assume you mean if Michael had been killed on his way to that meeting that Tessio set up with Barzini. Then Tessio would have taken over and would have been a satellite of Barzini.

If you mean that Michael would have been "found and killed" in Sicily instead of Appolonia, Vito would still have been alive. He would have had to govern as long as he could, and would have divided the Corleone territory among Tess and Clem.


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E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu...
E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu
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Re: If not mike than who? [Re: Turnbull] #573840
05/16/10 07:30 AM
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He would have had to govern as long as he could, and would have divided the Corleone territory among Tess and Clem.

Without giving Fredo and Carlo anything?

Re: If not mike than who? [Re: Danito] #573890
05/17/10 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted By: Danito
Originally Posted By: Turnbull
He would have had to govern as long as he could, and would have divided the Corleone territory among Tess and Clem.

Without giving Fredo and Carlo anything?


Well if Sonny is dead then everyone still would have known Carlo assisted so even without a Michael to turn things over to Carlo is not going to get anything from Vito and friends except a quick trip to the afterlife. Vito may have still wished his friends to wait on that until after he's gone but he's not a forgiving person.

Fredo was incapable of standing up for himself or family interests in Vegas so even without a Michael to chastise him, I don't see Vito giving Fredo any real authority or power in the business.

Considering the types of people in Vito's world, the best way to protect Fredo after Vito was gone may have been NOT to give Fredo anything anyone wanted.


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Re: If not mike than who? [Re: Lilo] #574064
05/20/10 11:48 AM
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Why wouldn't Vito have made Hagen the successor Don?


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Re: If not mike than who? [Re: dontomasso] #574070
05/20/10 12:53 PM
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I don't think Hagen was quite leadership material (no knock on Hagen by definition most people aren't) and just as importantly I don't think even if Hagen had been well suited for the job that he would have been accepted by the other Family members, not to mention the other Dons.


"When the snows fall and the white winds blow, the lone wolf dies but the pack survives."
Winter is Coming

Now this is the Law of the Jungle—as old and as true as the sky; And the wolf that shall keep it may prosper, but the wolf that shall break it must die.
As the creeper that girdles the tree-trunk, the Law runneth forward and back; For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack.
Re: If not mike than who? [Re: Lilo] #574071
05/20/10 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted By: Lilo
I don't think Hagen was quite leadership material (no knock on Hagen by definition most people aren't) and just as importantly I don't think even if Hagen had been well suited for the job that he would have been accepted by the other Family members, not to mention the other Dons.


Furthermore, no one who wasn't Italian could become a Mafia don (except on an informal temporary basis, like Michael did with Tom in GFII). Non-Italians can be consiglieres and associates of Mafia families (like "Jimmy The Gent" Burke was to the Lucchese family in real life, for example), but not made members and certainly not dons.


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