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So where did Tessio die and by who #563857 01/04/10 10:42 AM 01/04/10 10:42 AM
Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 6 R Roths_Football_Boots OP Associate
Roths_Football_Boots OP R Associate Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 6	First of all... great site. some very knowledgable and smart people on here. My first question is what happend to Tessio when he was found out, he was frog marched off and into the car, but would he meet a merciful death? and who did it? havent read the novels so apologies if it clearly states in there. thanks

Re: So where did Tessio die and by who [Re: Roths_Football_Boots] #563869 01/04/10 12:14 PM 01/04/10 12:14 PM
Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 5,325 MI Lilo
Lilo Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 5,325 MI	Welcome. It does not state in the novel exactly who helped Tessio transition to the Great Beyond. From the movie I would guess that it would have been Willie Cicci and that it would have been quick and efficient. "When the snows fall and the white winds blow, the lone wolf dies but the pack survives." Winter is Coming Now this is the Law of the Jungle—as old and as true as the sky; And the wolf that shall keep it may prosper, but the wolf that shall break it must die. As the creeper that girdles the tree-trunk, the Law runneth forward and back; For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack.

Re: So where did Tessio die and by who [Re: Lilo] #563871 01/04/10 12:51 PM 01/04/10 12:51 PM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 11,468 With Geary in Fredo's Brothel dontomasso Consigliere to the Stars
dontomasso Consigliere to the Stars Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 11,468 With Geary in Fredo's Brothel	Didn't they grind him up? "Io sono stanco, sono imbigliato, and I wan't everyone here to know, there ain't gonna be no trouble from me..Don Corleone..Cicc' a port!" "I stood in the courtroom like a fool." "I am Constanza: Lord of the idiots."

Re: So where did Tessio die and by who [Re: dontomasso] #563872 01/04/10 01:12 PM 01/04/10 01:12 PM
Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 22,902 New York SC Consigliere
SC Consigliere Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 22,902 New York	Originally Posted By: dontomasso Didn't they grind him up? That Winegardner bullshit poser doesn't deserve any recognition in THIS forum. .

Re: So where did Tessio die and by who [Re: SC] #563873 01/04/10 01:23 PM 01/04/10 01:23 PM
Joined: Apr 2002 Posts: 8,766 South of the Pinelands MaryCas
MaryCas Joined: Apr 2002 Posts: 8,766 South of the Pinelands	Originally Posted By: SC Originally Posted By: dontomasso Didn't they grind him up? That Winegardner bullshit poser doesn't deserve any recognition in THIS forum. ....then maybe the FBI snagged him on his way to the cement shoe factory, offered him witness protection and instead of having him sleep with the FISHes, he became a FISH....on a sitcom. Welcome aboard. ...btw, what was the name of the guy who whacked Tessio in that Winer novel? Whoever exalts himself will be humbled, whoever humbles himself will be exalted - Matthew 23:12

Re: So where did Tessio die and by who [Re: MaryCas] #563901 01/04/10 04:10 PM 01/04/10 04:10 PM
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olivant O Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 15,024 Texas	He became a New York City police detective. "Generosity. That was my first mistake." "Experience must be our only guide; reason may mislead us." "Instagram is Twitter for people who can't read."

Re: So where did Tessio die and by who [Re: SC] #563904 01/04/10 04:30 PM 01/04/10 04:30 PM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 11,468 With Geary in Fredo's Brothel dontomasso Consigliere to the Stars
dontomasso Consigliere to the Stars Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 11,468 With Geary in Fredo's Brothel	Originally Posted By: SC Originally Posted By: dontomasso Didn't they grind him up? That Winegardner bullshit poser doesn't deserve any recognition in THIS forum. Sorry SC, couldn't resist. "Io sono stanco, sono imbigliato, and I wan't everyone here to know, there ain't gonna be no trouble from me..Don Corleone..Cicc' a port!" "I stood in the courtroom like a fool." "I am Constanza: Lord of the idiots."

Re: So where did Tessio die and by who [Re: dontomasso] #563906 01/04/10 04:38 PM 01/04/10 04:38 PM
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SC Consigliere Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 22,902 New York	Originally Posted By: dontomasso Originally Posted By: SC Originally Posted By: dontomasso Didn't they grind him up? That Winegardner bullshit poser doesn't deserve any recognition in THIS forum. Sorry SC, couldn't resist. Hey, I couldn't resist taking a pot-shot at Winegardner. It's been way too long since I've done that. .

Re: So where did Tessio die and by who [Re: SC] #563908 01/04/10 05:01 PM 01/04/10 05:01 PM
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dontomasso Consigliere to the Stars Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 11,468 With Geary in Fredo's Brothel	Originally Posted By: SC Originally Posted By: dontomasso Originally Posted By: SC [quote=dontomasso]Didn't they grind him up? That Winegardner bullshit poser doesn't deserve any recognition in THIS forum. Sorry SC, couldn't resist. Hey, I couldn't resist taking a pot-shot at Winegardner. It's been way too long since I've done that. [/quote] Which reminds me, why is there still a pending quetion about "moving the Winegatdner" threads? They should be moved all right....to a different website! "Io sono stanco, sono imbigliato, and I wan't everyone here to know, there ain't gonna be no trouble from me..Don Corleone..Cicc' a port!" "I stood in the courtroom like a fool." "I am Constanza: Lord of the idiots."

Re: So where did Tessio die and by who [Re: dontomasso] #563909 01/04/10 05:09 PM 01/04/10 05:09 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 23,296 Throggs Neck pizzaboy The Fuckin Doctor
pizzaboy The Fuckin Doctor Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 23,296 Throggs Neck	He lives in the Tampa area, DT. When "Returns" first came out, he was doing the book tour in Florida. He was at the Barnes and Noble in Boca and the guy had the nerve to leave a million flyers promoting the writing class he teaches way over in Tampa. I mean, who the Hell is going to drive way across Alligator Alley to take a writing class from a hack like him? Last edited by pizzaboy; 01/04/10 05:10 PM. "I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.

Re: So where did Tessio die and by who [Re: pizzaboy] #563955 01/05/10 08:47 AM 01/05/10 08:47 AM
Joined: Apr 2002 Posts: 8,766 South of the Pinelands MaryCas
MaryCas Joined: Apr 2002 Posts: 8,766 South of the Pinelands	Geraci, that's who killed Tessio! To "make his bones". So now Roth FB, you're asking who the heck is Geraci? You'll just have to read all those wonderful Winebagger novels. Oh, yeah start with Puzo and the real Godfather book. Whoever exalts himself will be humbled, whoever humbles himself will be exalted - Matthew 23:12

Re: So where did Tessio die and by who [Re: pizzaboy] #564001 01/05/10 04:52 PM 01/05/10 04:52 PM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 11,468 With Geary in Fredo's Brothel dontomasso Consigliere to the Stars
dontomasso Consigliere to the Stars Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 11,468 With Geary in Fredo's Brothel	[quote=pizzaboy]He lives in the Tampa area, DT. When "Returns" first came out, he was doing the book tour in Florida. He was at the Barnes and Noble in Boca and the guy had the nerve to leave a million flyers promoting the writing class he teaches way over in Tampa. I mean, who the Hell is going to drive way across Alligator Alley to take a writing class from a hack like him? [/quote I thought he taught in Tallahasee at FSU "Io sono stanco, sono imbigliato, and I wan't everyone here to know, there ain't gonna be no trouble from me..Don Corleone..Cicc' a port!" "I stood in the courtroom like a fool." "I am Constanza: Lord of the idiots."

Re: So where did Tessio die and by who [Re: dontomasso] #564015 01/05/10 06:51 PM 01/05/10 06:51 PM
Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 3,745 BAM_233 Underboss
BAM_233 Underboss Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 3,745	Originally Posted By: dontomasso [quote=pizzaboy]He lives in the Tampa area, DT. When "Returns" first came out, he was doing the book tour in Florida. He was at the Barnes and Noble in Boca and the guy had the nerve to leave a million flyers promoting the writing class he teaches way over in Tampa. I mean, who the Hell is going to drive way across Alligator Alley to take a writing class from a hack like him? [/quote I thought he taught in Tallahasee at FSU why would anybody care where that bitch lives...unless you want to have your revenge on disrespecting the godfather, and puzo

Re: So where did Tessio die and by who [Re: BAM_233] #564034 01/05/10 09:53 PM 01/05/10 09:53 PM
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Turnbull Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 19,550 AZ	If Michael wanted to send a public "message," he would have had Tessio killed in the car and had his body left where it could be found, like a shot across the bows of the other gangs (as was Paulie). But since he intended to whack all the other Dons, I'm guessing that Tessio was taken to some secluded place, shot in the back of the head, and buried somewhere that his body could never be found, so that Michael's "legitimacy" move to Nevada wouldn't be clouded by having the body of a close associate turn up murdered. Of course, Olivant would say that Manolo the gardener did it and buried him in the rose garden. Nice crop that year. Ntra la porta tua lu sangu ï¿½ sparsu, E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu... E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.

Re: So where did Tessio die and by who [Re: Turnbull] #564124 01/06/10 07:46 PM 01/06/10 07:46 PM
Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,718 Berlin, Germany Danito Underboss
Danito Underboss Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,718 Berlin, Germany	What would the Corleones do with Tessio's family? Give them a living? Or let them enjoy what Tessio had saved?

Re: So where did Tessio die and by who [Re: Danito] #564126 01/06/10 07:49 PM 01/06/10 07:49 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 23,296 Throggs Neck pizzaboy The Fuckin Doctor
pizzaboy The Fuckin Doctor Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 23,296 Throggs Neck	Originally Posted By: Danito What would the Corleones do with Tessio's family? Give them a living? Or let them enjoy what Tessio had saved? In the fictional world of Puzo's Corleones, yes, I'm sure the family would be taken care of. If it were a real New York City mob crew, they'd probably end up on welfare. "I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.

Re: So where did Tessio die and by who [Re: Turnbull] #564130 01/06/10 08:34 PM 01/06/10 08:34 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 15,024 Texas O olivant
olivant O Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 15,024 Texas	Originally Posted By: Turnbull If Michael wanted to send a public "message," he would have had Tessio killed in the car and had his body left where it could be found, like a shot across the bows of the other gangs (as was Paulie). But since he intended to whack all the other Dons, I'm guessing that Tessio was taken to some secluded place, shot in the back of the head, and buried somewhere that his body could never be found, so that Michael's "legitimacy" move to Nevada wouldn't be clouded by having the body of a close associate turn up murdered. Of course, Olivant would say that Manolo the gardener did it and buried him in the rose garden. Nice crop that year. Now TB, you know very well the pivotal role that Manolo played in the Trilogy the scenes of which, unfortunately, ended up on the cutting room floor. "Generosity. That was my first mistake." "Experience must be our only guide; reason may mislead us." "Instagram is Twitter for people who can't read."

Re: So where did Tessio die and by who [Re: olivant] #564192 01/07/10 09:40 AM 01/07/10 09:40 AM
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The Last Woltz Underboss Joined: May 2006 Posts: 773 Pittsburgh, PA	The CIA may have been involved in the killing of Tessio, and other key events in the Trilogy. The evidence: In "Burn After Reading," two gym employees haplessly try to blackmail a fired CIA operative after getting a copy of his memoirs. How does the info fall into their hands? It's suspiciously found in the women's bathroom by a janitor named... Manolo. "A man in my position cannot afford to be made to look ridiculous!"

Re: So where did Tessio die and by who [Re: The Last Woltz] #566974 02/09/10 07:07 PM 02/09/10 07:07 PM
Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 341 North America Mr. Blonde Capo
Mr. Blonde Capo Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 341 North America	Not really answering the question, but I took Tessio dying off-camera as a measure of preserving a shred of his dignity. As though the viewer is to believe that, while he did turn and got what he deserved, his betrayal was a bit more justifiable when compared to Paulie, Carlo, et al, given his prior decades of loyal service and his overwhelming belief that there was no other method for him to survive.

Re: So where did Tessio die and by who [Re: Mr. Blonde] #566980 02/09/10 09:14 PM 02/09/10 09:14 PM
Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 19,550 AZ Turnbull
Turnbull Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 19,550 AZ	I think the fact that Tessio acknowledged his betrayal ("Tell Mike it was business...") and accepted it (even after asking Tom if he could get him off the hook) was drama enough for that scene. It was as if FFC said, "the guy acknowledged he was guilty, let him die off screen." Carlo, on the other hand, lied and groveled--he deserved to have his death shown. Ntra la porta tua lu sangu ï¿½ sparsu, E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu... E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.

Re: So where did Tessio die and by who [Re: The Last Woltz] #566983 02/09/10 11:26 PM 02/09/10 11:26 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 15,024 Texas O olivant
olivant O Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 15,024 Texas	Originally Posted By: The Last Woltz The CIA may have been involved in the killing of Tessio, and other key events in the Trilogy. The evidence: In "Burn After Reading," two gym employees haplessly try to blackmail a fired CIA operative after getting a copy of his memoirs. How does the info fall into their hands? It's suspiciously found in the women's bathroom by a janitor named... Manolo. Exactly. "Generosity. That was my first mistake." "Experience must be our only guide; reason may mislead us." "Instagram is Twitter for people who can't read."

Re: So where did Tessio die and by who [Re: olivant] #566998 02/10/10 09:54 AM 02/10/10 09:54 AM
Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,718 Berlin, Germany Danito Underboss
Danito Underboss Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,718 Berlin, Germany	In the novel Tessio's death isn't described either.

Re: So where did Tessio die and by who [Re: Danito] #567004 02/10/10 01:16 PM 02/10/10 01:16 PM
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dontomasso Consigliere to the Stars Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 11,468 With Geary in Fredo's Brothel	East River. Cement boots. "Io sono stanco, sono imbigliato, and I wan't everyone here to know, there ain't gonna be no trouble from me..Don Corleone..Cicc' a port!" "I stood in the courtroom like a fool." "I am Constanza: Lord of the idiots."

Re: So where did Tessio die and by who [Re: The Last Woltz] #567116 02/12/10 11:59 AM 02/12/10 11:59 AM
Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,190 Brazil Tony Mosrite Underboss
Tony Mosrite Underboss Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,190 Brazil	Originally Posted By: The Last Woltz The CIA may have been involved in the killing of Tessio, and other key events in the Trilogy. The evidence: In "Burn After Reading," two gym employees haplessly try to blackmail a fired CIA operative after getting a copy of his memoirs. How does the info fall into their hands? It's suspiciously found in the women's bathroom by a janitor named... Manolo. "I just found it on the floor there, just lying there on the floor there. just lying there" I really love that movie. I recently stated in the "Random movie whoring" thread that the final scene with John Malkovich was the best scene of the decade for me - "You represent the idiocy of today" and I agree that the last Tessio scene was drama enough. it's still one of the trademarks moments of the trilogy for me. it shows how those men handled their business really well and how the Corleones were both badass and respectful. Tessio recognizes his faith and doesn't even tries to react, unless Tom "gets him off the hook". "I'm just a humble motherfucker with a big ass dick" The Bunk

Re: So where did Tessio die and by who [Re: SC] #567160 02/12/10 07:25 PM 02/12/10 07:25 PM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 19,066 OH, VA, KY Mignon Mama Mig
Mignon Mama Mig Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 19,066 OH, VA, KY	Originally Posted By: SC Originally Posted By: dontomasso Originally Posted By: SC [quote=dontomasso]Didn't they grind him up? That Winegardner bullshit poser doesn't deserve any recognition in THIS forum. Sorry SC, couldn't resist. Hey, I couldn't resist taking a pot-shot at Winegardner. It's been way too long since I've done that. [/quote] Let's take pot-shots at him once a month. I wish I could get my money and my time back from reading that garbage. Dylan Matthew Moran born 10/30/12

Re: So where did Tessio die and by who [Re: Mignon] #567186 02/13/10 09:36 AM 02/13/10 09:36 AM
Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 18,238 The Ravenite Social Club Don Cardi Caporegime
Don Cardi Caporegime Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 18,238 The Ravenite Social Club	Originally Posted By: dontomasso Didn't they grind him up? Originally Posted By: SC That Winegardner bullshit poser doesn't deserve any recognition in THIS forum. Originally Posted By: dontomasso Sorry SC, couldn't resist. Originally Posted By: SC Hey, I couldn't resist taking a pot-shot at Winegardner. It's been way too long since I've done that. Originally Posted By: Mignon Let's take pot-shots at him once a month. I wish I could get my money and my time back from reading that garbage. You know what bothers me even more than Winegardner's shitty writing and bullshit storyline? The fact that the PUZO family ok'ed and approved the shit that he wrote based on the great characters and fantastic story that Mario Puzo created. The Puzo family should be ashamed of themselves for allowing this fugazy self proclaimed author Winegardner to pollute Mario Puzo's Godfather novel and it's wonderful characters. The money hungry Puzo family is more at fault than Winegardner himself! Don Cardi Five - ten years from now, they're gonna wish there was American Cosa Nostra. Five - ten years from now, they're gonna miss John Gotti.

Re: So where did Tessio die and by who [Re: Don Cardi] #567189 02/13/10 10:06 AM 02/13/10 10:06 AM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 11,468 With Geary in Fredo's Brothel dontomasso Consigliere to the Stars
dontomasso Consigliere to the Stars Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 11,468 With Geary in Fredo's Brothel	Originally Posted By: Don Cardi The money hungry Puzo family is more at fault than Winegardner himself! The root of all evil, my friend. "Io sono stanco, sono imbigliato, and I wan't everyone here to know, there ain't gonna be no trouble from me..Don Corleone..Cicc' a port!" "I stood in the courtroom like a fool." "I am Constanza: Lord of the idiots."

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