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Sonny, Fredo, etc (GF1 dead characters appearing in GF2) #31983
08/26/05 11:13 AM
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Did James Caan and other actors get paid for "appearing" in GF2 or did FFC reuse old footage from GF1?


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Re: Sonny, Fredo, etc (GF1 dead characters appearing in GF2) #31984
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Originally posted by Remember Vito Andolini:
Did James Caan and other actors get paid for "appearing" in GF2 or did FFC reuse old footage from GF1?
They got paid. Brando was supposed to be there too, but they couldn't reach an agreement, so they wrote him out of the scene.

Re: Sonny, Fredo, etc (GF1 dead characters appearing in GF2) #31985
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Wasn't Richard Castellano really dead at the time?

Also in that scene Sonny and Tom have really bad hair, and Pacino's aging shows.


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Re: Sonny, Fredo, etc (GF1 dead characters appearing in GF2) #31986
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It was only two years later. ohwell

Re: Sonny, Fredo, etc (GF1 dead characters appearing in GF2) #31987
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Also in that scene Sonny and Tom have really bad hair, and Pacino's aging shows.
I think he looked exactly the same as in the beginning of GF I.

But in general this scene was very nice to see, and also very confusing. All those people (Santino, Fredo, ...) alive.

But if I were Brando, I would've appeared for free. 1, 2 days work...


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Re: Sonny, Fredo, etc (GF1 dead characters appearing in GF2) #31988
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So you mean that GF2 happy family at the dinner table scene was new and not old unused footage from GF1?


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Re: Sonny, Fredo, etc (GF1 dead characters appearing in GF2) #31989
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Originally posted by dontomasso:
Wasn't Richard Castellano really dead at the time?
No. He wasn't in GF II because of his demands. Castellano died in the early 90's. He lived and died a few blocks from me, in my hometown of North Bergen , NJ.

Re: Sonny, Fredo, etc (GF1 dead characters appearing in GF2) #31990
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Originally posted by Remember Vito Andolini:
So you mean that GF2 happy family at the dinner table scene was new and not old unused footage from GF1?
It was new footage, shot for GF II.

Re: Sonny, Fredo, etc (GF1 dead characters appearing in GF2) #31991
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How much did they pay James Caan in GF2?


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Re: Sonny, Fredo, etc (GF1 dead characters appearing in GF2) #31992
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Originally posted by Remember Vito Andolini:
... that GF2 happy family at the dinner table scene ...
That's one of my favorite moments from the whole trilogy. Going from a quiet, somber moment to all of a sudden Sonny's face suddenly appearing as the reflection in the window. I find myself saying out loud "hey, Sonny" every time I see it, as if I was seeing an old friend whom I hadn't seen in a while. And then all the rest of the faces sitting around the table just lika da old days ... A very nostalgic moment.

The thing that strikes me is how it changes your mood as the viewer so effectively.

Another scene that does that is ... the first time they show the rugged and beautiful hills of Sicily after Michael has taken refuge there. It seems a real breath of 'fresh air' ... again really changes the mood.


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Re: Sonny, Fredo, etc (GF1 dead characters appearing in GF2) #31993
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Originally posted by Tony D:
...And then all the rest of the faces sitting around the table just lika da old days ...
The only thing was missing in that scene was..
The Godfather Vito Corleone...


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Re: Sonny, Fredo, etc (GF1 dead characters appearing in GF2) #31994
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Clemenza wasnt in it because he hadn't reached an agreement to be in GFII in general, so they didn't want him in that scene either I guess.

I always did think that you could tell that they had aged though, Sonny and Connie specifically. Connie doesn't look as mousy as she did in the first one, a bit more attractive like in GFII, and you can sort of tell that Caan has aged a little, face looks more worn and his hair is different. It was only 2 years, but you can see it.

I always wondered why they didn't put Mama Corleone in that flashback. I guess it was implied she was with Vito when he walked in, although that wouldv'e been another dead person had they shown her.


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Re: Sonny, Fredo, etc (GF1 dead characters appearing in GF2) #31995
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Other than the dinner table scnene, how would they make GF2 differently if Brando were in it?


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Re: Sonny, Fredo, etc (GF1 dead characters appearing in GF2) #31996
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Originally posted by Remember Vito Andolini:
Other than the dinner table scnene, how would they make GF2 differently if Brando were in it?
You're asking a lot considering how long "Vito" had been dead since GF 1.

Re: Sonny, Fredo, etc (GF1 dead characters appearing in GF2) #31997
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Other than the dinner table scnene, how would they make GF2 differently if Brando were in it?
They made a script for it, and I've read it. It was a conversation between Vito and Michael in his office, if I remember correctly.
I'm sure someone can give you the link to it.

Edit: Misread your post.
This was 'The Dinner table scene', I've no idea about the rest.


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