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Why Did They Have to Kill The Hooker
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08/18/08 02:16 PM
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To compromise Geary it would seem all they needed to do was to get com photographs of him with the hooker, and some statements that he was a regular there, and into really kinky game playing, and they would have him by the short hairs (especially with the Corleone's people in the press). So why did they have to kill an innocent person to further this agenda? IS this supposed to show how much more brutal Michael was than Vito? After al look at the trouble Clemenza went to just to make sure "pain in the ass innocent bystanders" didn't get hurt.
Last edited by dontomasso; 08/18/08 02:17 PM.
"Io sono stanco, sono imbigliato, and I wan't everyone here to know, there ain't gonna be no trouble from me..Don Corleone..Cicc' a port!"
"I stood in the courtroom like a fool."
"I am Constanza: Lord of the idiots."
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Re: Why Did They Have to Kill The Hooker
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08/18/08 07:19 PM
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To compromise Geary it would seem all they needed to do was to get com photographs of him with the hooker, and some statements that he was a regular there, and into really kinky game playing, and they would have him by the short hairs (especially with the Corleone's people in the press). So why did they have to kill an innocent person to further this agenda? IS this supposed to show how much more brutal Michael was than Vito? After al look at the trouble Clemenza went to just to make sure "pain in the ass innocent bystanders" didn't get hurt. A scenario had to be created where Geary would be absolutely OWNED by the Corleone Family. Legal or not, the prostitution itself would've been pretty bad for a U.S. Senator, but not quite enough to have him by the balls like they did. Anything other than cold blooded murder he might've still found a way to be resistant. They needed him in office and in their pocket. And yes, Geary knew he didn't do it and eventually did realize he had been slipped a mickey & set up BIG TIME by Michael Corleone. It's written all over his face after Cicci jokes about that 'buffer' question. Apple
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Re: Why Did They Have to Kill The Hooker
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08/19/08 01:41 AM
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Here was an earlier extortion scene. I always questioned the excessive darkness and believability of the scene from the movie, then what's-his-name pleads guilty to trying to have sex in a men's room.
INT. STATE SENATE FLOOR - DAY
The Senate is in session; Senator Geary is on the floor during a vote. An aide approaches him, with a slip of paper.
INT. GEARY'S OFFICE - DAY
The Senator steps behind his desk.
SENATOR GEARY All right, Mr. Hagen, you've got ten minutes.
He flicks the switch of a small tape recorder.
SENATOR GEARY ...and the tape will be running.
HAGEN Actually, I've come with good news; the Corleone family has done you a favor.
The Senator immediately shuts the tape recorder off.
SENATOR GEARY What the hell are you talking about?
HAGEN We know you're a busy man, with plenty of enemies -- we saw the opportunity to do you a favor, and we did. No strings.
SENATOR GEARY No strings.
HAGEN You know there's a Senate Investigating Committee recently set up; we thought it would be unfortunate if they were to trace anything though-provoking to your name.
SENATOR GEARY No one can trace anything to me; I pride myself on that.
HAGEN Do you gamble?
SENATOR GEARY A little; what's so thought- provoking about that?
HAGEN Do you owe markers?
SENATOR GEARY Maybe two, three thousand dollars.
Hagen leans forward, and deposits a handful of paper on the Senator's desk.
HAGEN The Corleone family has paid them off for you...as an expression of our esteem.
Geary quickly looks through the paid markers.
SENATOR GEARY There's thirty grand worth of paid off markers -- I never owed that much.
HAGEN Our mistake. But what does it matter; it was our money. (rising) We don't even expect thanks.
SENATOR GEARY You paid off thirty grand I never owed.
HAGEN We'll keep it quiet; the people who know are trustworthy...the Committee needn't find out.
SENATOR GEARY And what's the price of their not finding out.
HAGEN Simple. Be friendly like us. Not hostile.
SENATOR GEARY (he despises Hagen) Thanks...friend.
CHRISTIAN You desecrated a classic film. This is worse than "Godfather III." GIBSON Whoa, whoa, hey, whoa! Let's not say things we can't take back. CHRISTIAN All right, all right, I'm sorry.
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Re: Why Did They Have to Kill The Hooker
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08/21/08 06:02 PM
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Is it really believable that Geary would have participated in trapping Michael during the Senate proceedings knowing what kind of dirt Michael had on him? I could see it with Michael paying of a few markers, but with pictures of Geary with a dead prostitute?
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CHRISTIAN You desecrated a classic film. This is worse than "Godfather III." GIBSON Whoa, whoa, hey, whoa! Let's not say things we can't take back. CHRISTIAN All right, all right, I'm sorry.
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Re: Why Did They Have to Kill The Hooker
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08/22/08 09:39 AM
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Is it really believable that Geary would have participated in trapping Michael during the Senate proceedings knowing what kind of dirt Michael had on him? I could see it with Michael paying of a few markers, but with pictures of Geary with a dead prostitute? If Michael had been indicted and convicted for perjury Geary would have claimed the pictures were doctored. It would be his word against a convicted perjurer.
"Io sono stanco, sono imbigliato, and I wan't everyone here to know, there ain't gonna be no trouble from me..Don Corleone..Cicc' a port!"
"I stood in the courtroom like a fool."
"I am Constanza: Lord of the idiots."
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Re: Why Did They Have to Kill The Hooker
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08/22/08 09:49 AM
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Is it really believable that Geary would have participated in trapping Michael during the Senate proceedings knowing what kind of dirt Michael had on him? I could see it with Michael paying of a few markers, but with pictures of Geary with a dead prostitute? If Michael had been indicted and convicted for perjury Geary would have claimed the pictures were doctored. It would be his word against a convicted perjurer. A convicted perjurer's word might not be enough to win a trial, but it certainly had the potential to be damning in the court of public opinion. But, in any case, Michael surely would not have been involved directly. He would have been able to see to it that many people (honestly) claimed that Geary was a regular at the brothel, was a regular customer of the dead hooker, and was there that night. Even without the murder angle, exposure of Geary's hypocrisy would have destroyed his career.
"A man in my position cannot afford to be made to look ridiculous!"
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