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Mike: "You can kill anyone"
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07/25/05 11:11 AM
07/25/05 11:11 AM
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Remember Vito Andolini
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"If anything in this life is certain, if history has taught us anything, it is that you can kill anyone."
What exactly did he mean by "history"? What history was he referring to?
Ricky Roma: You are here to help us... does that seem clear to you? That's your job... To help us, not to fuck us up... to help those who are going out there to try to earn a living... You fairy! You company man!
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Re: Mike: "You can kill anyone"
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07/26/05 03:03 AM
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Turnbull
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It's possible FFC and Puzo were engaging in a bit of historical juxtaposing here. Perhaps Michael was "fast forwarding" to the JFK assassination, even though that scene was set ca. 1960, because FFC and Puzo knew all their viewers were familiar with the JFK assassination. But, as Apple pointed out, Michael could have been pointing more credibly to his own assassination of McCluskey and Sollozzo. Hagen said, "...he is invulnerable. No one has ever gunned down a police captain..." And Michael replied, "Where does it say you can't kill a cop?" That's most likely the "history" he's referring to.
Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu, E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu... E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
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Re: Mike: "You can kill anyone"
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07/26/05 09:41 AM
07/26/05 09:41 AM
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plawrence
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Originally posted by Turnbull: It's possible FFC and Puzo were engaging in a bit of historical juxtaposing here. Perhaps Michael was "fast forwarding" to the JFK assassination, even though that scene was set ca. 1960, because FFC and Puzo knew all their viewers were familiar with the JFK assassination.
Michael's remark was certainly designed for the the viewer to see the irony in JFK's assassination, particularly in light of the fact that many believe that the Mafia was involved.
"Difficult....not impossible"
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Re: Mike: "You can kill anyone"
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07/26/05 01:00 PM
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If you think about it, the JFK assasination wasn't really all that difficult to carry out.
He was riding slowly in an open limo, past cheering crowds, on a bright, sunny day. He specifically asked that the top be down so he could wave to the crowds. Home footage shows he actually beckoned some Texans to come closer & shake his hand!! Despite the Secret Service apparently everywhere they thought they should be on that day...whoever held the gun whether it was Oswald or somebody else had a clear shot. A map of the President's motorcade route had been published in all the papers. The closest agent was poor Clint Hill, who was riding behind Kennedy and got to the car soon enough to only push down a panicked Jackie who was climbing out the back seat after seeing her husband's head blown off.
If you look at all the circumstances, It was actually an easier job to pull off than the one Booth planned for doing away with Lincoln. It was because of the Kennedy assasination that no President since has EVER ridden an open limo.
So I'm not sure what significance it has to Michael's 'History has proven...' statement.
Apple
A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government.
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Re: Mike: "You can kill anyone"
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07/26/05 02:42 PM
07/26/05 02:42 PM
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Originally posted by AppleOnYa: The closest agent was poor Clint Hill, who was riding behind Kennedy and got to the car soon enough to only push down a panicked Jackie who was climbing out the back seat after seeing her husband's head blown off.
Apple isn't there some story floating around out there that the Secret Service had all been partying hard the night before and were hung over on Nov 22??
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Re: Mike: "You can kill anyone"
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07/26/05 04:50 PM
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JFK's assassination has nothing to do with what Michael was saying......there were many assassinations in history to back up his statement.....plus his own experiences.....him killing The Turk and McClusky, plus the attempts on his father......his statement was more of a challenge to Rocco....right after he says that line he calls to Rocco....and Rocco says "Difficult, but not impossible" Michael was basically telling Rocco that he will not except failure as an option before he asked Rocco. I mean c'mon.....if Michael says that history has taught us that no one is safe from being killed.....would you want to be the one to tell him....."Uh- Mikey.....I can't think of a way to do it."???? I think Rocco knew that Mike wanted him to do it....regardless of Rocco's own death.
The Bull!!!
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Re: Mike: "You can kill anyone"
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07/26/05 06:11 PM
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BarrytheBull plus his own experiences
Add to that the assassination of the heads of the Five Families. I think you're right: basically Mike was saying, "we've had our own way and killed all who opposed us so far ... why can't we continue to do that?" Although Hagen's caution that the hit on Roth would be akin to a hit on the President was deliberately prophetic.
Joey ...
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... Saza!
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