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Re: English Football Thread (Was: Premiership Resu [Re: Blibbleblabble] #545737
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Probley... It is annoying..


The Mafia Is Not Primarily An Organisation Of Murderers.
First And Foremost,The Mafia Is Made Up Of Thieves.
It Is Driven By Greed And Controlled By Fear.

Between The Law And The Mafia, The Law Is Not The Most To Be Feared

"What if the Mafia were not an organization but a widespread Sicilian attitude of hostility towards the law?"

"Make Love Not War" John Lennon
Re: English Football Thread (Was: Premiership Resu [Re: Don Sicilia] #545823
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Originally Posted By: Don Sicilia
I am not a huge football fan, but I find the transfer fee system fascinating. Does one guy really make that much of a difference? How do you even price these fees? Do they use some sort of financial model to determine (i) effect on Win-Loss, (ii) effect on attendance revenues, (iii) effect on marketing revenues, (iv) other?

Like I said, fascinating.


The best players who cost the most money can only be bought by the elite few clubs,hence the top clubs stay at the top and the others cannot get anywhere near them. The draft system used in the US would be great for football but will never happen obviously!

P.S. Get used to the horns guys,they are here to stay. Very popular in South Africa by all accounts ohwell


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Re: English Football Thread (Was: Premiership Resu [Re: Yogi Barrabbas] #545838
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So Owen is finally leaving Newcastle, Yogi, dont suppose ya bother are you..


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First And Foremost,The Mafia Is Made Up Of Thieves.
It Is Driven By Greed And Controlled By Fear.

Between The Law And The Mafia, The Law Is Not The Most To Be Feared

"What if the Mafia were not an organization but a widespread Sicilian attitude of hostility towards the law?"

"Make Love Not War" John Lennon
Re: English Football Thread (Was: Premiership Resu [Re: DE NIRO] #547377
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Owen going to your lot mate?

You are seriously welcome to him. I hope he provides the same courage and commitment to you as he did to us whilst missing 75% of all games and still picking up his £120,000 a week wages!


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Re: English Football Thread (Was: Premiership Resu [Re: Yogi Barrabbas] #547508
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A big gamble i think signing owen, but theres no fee involved.. I excited to see him in a United shirt..


The Mafia Is Not Primarily An Organisation Of Murderers.
First And Foremost,The Mafia Is Made Up Of Thieves.
It Is Driven By Greed And Controlled By Fear.

Between The Law And The Mafia, The Law Is Not The Most To Be Feared

"What if the Mafia were not an organization but a widespread Sicilian attitude of hostility towards the law?"

"Make Love Not War" John Lennon
Re: English Football Thread (Was: Premiership Resu [Re: Don Sicilia] #547516
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Originally Posted By: Don Sicilia
I am not a huge football fan, but I find the transfer fee system fascinating. Does one guy really make that much of a difference? How do you even price these fees? Do they use some sort of financial model to determine (i) effect on Win-Loss, (ii) effect on attendance revenues, (iii) effect on marketing revenues, (iv) other?

Like I said, fascinating.


I love how you're such a geek for sport smile

Simply put; there's no one model that you're suggesting. The length of the players contract will have an effect, how good the player is is another. But when it comes to superstar players and those that are 'brands' then yes, the price will be affected by their marketability. I remember when Beckham went to Madrid, it didn't matter how much he went for, it'd be recouped by shirt sales. The same with Ronaldo.

In football it's also a little bit more complicated, DB. There's no financial parity between clubs. The rich owners tend to have more power, such as Madrid and overpay to get their man. Part of this is surely due to the selling club's ability to higher the price knowing the other team can afford to pay. It can get quite political and stupid.

It's why I admire the American football system, the draft, salrary cap, and there's a lot more of players honouring their contracts.

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Re: English Football Thread (Was: Premiership Resu [Re: Turi Giuliano] #547729
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Thanks Turi. They probably call these things transfer fees because they transfer them right onto the ticket prices. I think it stinks how fans are being priced out of seeing these games live.

Re: English Football Thread (Was: Premiership Resu [Re: Don Sicilia] #547818
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Originally Posted By: Don Sicilia
Thanks Turi. They probably call these things transfer fees because they transfer them right onto the ticket prices. I think it stinks how fans are being priced out of seeing these games live.


It does indeed DS. For me to take myself and my 2 eldest boys to the match would probably cost me about £100. It stinks(so would the quality of the football we would be watching as well though)

Going to the rugby this year. Better sport and a lot cheaper smile

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Re: English Football Thread (Was: Premiership Resu [Re: Yogi Barrabbas] #548802
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Tevez leaves United for City!


Opinions please DN?


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Re: English Football Thread (Was: Premiership Resu [Re: Yogi Barrabbas] #548805
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"Manchester City is one of the best clubs in the world." - Carlos Tevez



...dot com bold typeface rhetoric.
You go clickety click and get your head split.
'The hell you look like on a message board
Discussing whether or not the Brother is hardcore?
Re: English Football Thread (Was: Premiership Resu [Re: Capo de La Cosa Nostra] #548806
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lol lol

One of the richest though and that money always talks,especially to players who would gladly " play for nothing" but are even happier to play for 200,000 grand a week whistle


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Re: English Football Thread (Was: Premiership Resu [Re: Yogi Barrabbas] #548816
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Originally Posted By: Yogi Barrabbas
Tevez leaves United for City!


Opinions please DN?


Im not bitter at all,the guy was a hero for us, im just glad he didn't move to Liverpool

It was obvisley for £££££££££££££££££


The Mafia Is Not Primarily An Organisation Of Murderers.
First And Foremost,The Mafia Is Made Up Of Thieves.
It Is Driven By Greed And Controlled By Fear.

Between The Law And The Mafia, The Law Is Not The Most To Be Feared

"What if the Mafia were not an organization but a widespread Sicilian attitude of hostility towards the law?"

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Re: English Football Thread (Was: Premiership Resu [Re: DE NIRO] #548904
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Will he still be a hero to you when he scores against you next season?

City due to sign Adebayor as well?

How many strikers do they need?


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Re: English Football Thread (Was: Premiership Resu [Re: Yogi Barrabbas] #548923
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As long as we beat them,i dont mind.. smile

I was thinking the same thing, they must have at 7 strikers now.. They should buy a couple of defenders..

Cant see Terry moving..


The Mafia Is Not Primarily An Organisation Of Murderers.
First And Foremost,The Mafia Is Made Up Of Thieves.
It Is Driven By Greed And Controlled By Fear.

Between The Law And The Mafia, The Law Is Not The Most To Be Feared

"What if the Mafia were not an organization but a widespread Sicilian attitude of hostility towards the law?"

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Re: English Football Thread (Was: Premiership Resu [Re: DE NIRO] #548981
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They are offering him £300,000 a week by all accounts.

He will go,the greedy bastard!!


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Re: English Football Thread (Was: Premiership Resu [Re: Yogi Barrabbas] #549042
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Cant see him giving up champions lg footie to be honest..


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First And Foremost,The Mafia Is Made Up Of Thieves.
It Is Driven By Greed And Controlled By Fear.

Between The Law And The Mafia, The Law Is Not The Most To Be Feared

"What if the Mafia were not an organization but a widespread Sicilian attitude of hostility towards the law?"

"Make Love Not War" John Lennon
Re: English Football Thread (Was: Premiership Resu [Re: DE NIRO] #549160
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True mate.

Even with all the money City are spending i would put good money on them not winning anything this year and not even getting into the top 4. Their problems lie in defence not attack and they have not strengthened there as yet. I also don't rate Hughes as a manager. Now they have given him the cash and he still doesn't deliver?

I don't think he will be in charge there this time next season!

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Re: English Football Thread (Was: Premiership Resu [Re: Yogi Barrabbas] #549191
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I agree about Hughes,, probley not the man to take them to the next level..

I dont think they get in top 4 either.


The Mafia Is Not Primarily An Organisation Of Murderers.
First And Foremost,The Mafia Is Made Up Of Thieves.
It Is Driven By Greed And Controlled By Fear.

Between The Law And The Mafia, The Law Is Not The Most To Be Feared

"What if the Mafia were not an organization but a widespread Sicilian attitude of hostility towards the law?"

"Make Love Not War" John Lennon
Re: English Football Thread (Was: Premiership Resu [Re: DE NIRO] #549481
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Newcastle beat Darlington away on Saturday 7-2.

Things are looking good eh? tongue


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Re: English Football Thread (Was: Premiership Resu [Re: Yogi Barrabbas] #549597
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This news story has just made my day lets hope it real..

Sven in talks with Notts County


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First And Foremost,The Mafia Is Made Up Of Thieves.
It Is Driven By Greed And Controlled By Fear.

Between The Law And The Mafia, The Law Is Not The Most To Be Feared

"What if the Mafia were not an organization but a widespread Sicilian attitude of hostility towards the law?"

"Make Love Not War" John Lennon
Re: English Football Thread (Was: Premiership Resu [Re: DE NIRO] #549768
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The Mafia Is Not Primarily An Organisation Of Murderers.
First And Foremost,The Mafia Is Made Up Of Thieves.
It Is Driven By Greed And Controlled By Fear.

Between The Law And The Mafia, The Law Is Not The Most To Be Feared

"What if the Mafia were not an organization but a widespread Sicilian attitude of hostility towards the law?"

"Make Love Not War" John Lennon
Re: English Football Thread (Was: Premiership Resu [Re: DE NIRO] #549800
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I wonder hows Svens going to feel come december going to Burton on a cold Monday evening!

Everton fan here by the way

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I wonder if Sven will find a job for Ulrika-ka-ka Jonnson on his staff?

rolleyes


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I'll post this here because I don't see any other thread. I had no clue that the World Football Challenge was being held here tonight. AC Milan vs. Chelsea. I'm flicking channels and see M&T Bank Stadium on my scream. It goes to show how little I pay to anything in regards to my own town. My daughter said this has been planned for 5 months.

Not knowing the teams I have no clue who to root for. I suppose my friends across the pond are Chelsea fans?


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Re: English Football Thread (Was: Premiership Resu [Re: Beth E] #550085
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[video:youtube]Notts County Sven Goran Eriksson 2 v1 Forest 25/7/2009[/video]

we beat the scum 2-1


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First And Foremost,The Mafia Is Made Up Of Thieves.
It Is Driven By Greed And Controlled By Fear.

Between The Law And The Mafia, The Law Is Not The Most To Be Feared

"What if the Mafia were not an organization but a widespread Sicilian attitude of hostility towards the law?"

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Re: English Football Thread (Was: Premiership Resu [Re: DE NIRO] #550086
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we beat the scum 2-1


The Mafia Is Not Primarily An Organisation Of Murderers.
First And Foremost,The Mafia Is Made Up Of Thieves.
It Is Driven By Greed And Controlled By Fear.

Between The Law And The Mafia, The Law Is Not The Most To Be Feared

"What if the Mafia were not an organization but a widespread Sicilian attitude of hostility towards the law?"

"Make Love Not War" John Lennon
Re: English Football Thread (Was: Premiership Resu [Re: DE NIRO] #550163
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Newcastle got beat off the mighty Leyton Orient yesterday,6-1 panic

Just when you think things can't get any worse frown


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Re: English Football Thread (Was: Premiership Resu [Re: Yogi Barrabbas] #550292
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I saw this result..

Shocking.. smile

And the season is only 2 weeks away no new buyer and no perm manager,things dont change a


The Mafia Is Not Primarily An Organisation Of Murderers.
First And Foremost,The Mafia Is Made Up Of Thieves.
It Is Driven By Greed And Controlled By Fear.

Between The Law And The Mafia, The Law Is Not The Most To Be Feared

"What if the Mafia were not an organization but a widespread Sicilian attitude of hostility towards the law?"

"Make Love Not War" John Lennon
Re: English Football Thread (Was: Premiership Resu [Re: DE NIRO] #550383
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I see that little twat Owen banging the goals in for you lot!!

What a surprise ohwell


Can't even bring myself to talk about the Toon,it is so depressing cry


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Re: English Football Thread (Was: Premiership Resu [Re: Yogi Barrabbas] #550504
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It's a shame Newcastle went down when they came to goodison we looked forward to it every year as we always had a good drink and laugh with the geordie lads and they sang like mad all the match

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