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Young married Vito-good husband????? #425161
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Vito is supposed to be such a great family man:



"VITO CORLEONE (to Johnny, after glancing to see Sonny enter)

You spend time with your family?



JOHNNY

Sure I do.



VITO CORLEONE (to Johnny, but toward and about Sonny)

Good. 'Cause a man who doesn't spend time with his family can never be a real man.



Then what is he doing running to Italian shows with Genco, and leaving his wife home alone with his son in that dumpy Ralph Kramden apartment?


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Re: Young married Vito-good husband????? [Re: johnny ola] #425169
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Give him a break. He works all day and, as far as we know, he had one night out during the entire film.


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Re: Young married Vito-good husband????? [Re: olivant] #425170
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 Originally Posted By: olivant
Give him a break. He works all day and, as far as we know, he had one night out during the entire film.


And when does Mrs. Corleone get a night out? She always cooking, holding babies and having to sing at weddings, while Vito goes around with his friends sipping expresso.


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Re: Young married Vito-good husband????? [Re: johnny ola] #425180
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 Originally Posted By: johnny ola
Then what is he doing running to Italian shows with Genco, and leaving his wife home alone with his son in that dumpy Ralph Kramden apartment?

He was setting us up for one of the very best scenes in the Trilogy: that splendid little Neapolitan soap opera, plus introduction of Fanucci, who in his own way set Vito on his destined path.


Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu,
E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu...
E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu
Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
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 Originally Posted By: Turnbull
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Then what is he doing running to Italian shows with Genco, and leaving his wife home alone with his son in that dumpy Ralph Kramden apartment?

He was setting us up for one of the very best scenes in the Trilogy: that splendid little Neapolitan soap opera, plus introduction of Fanucci, who in his own way set Vito on his destined path.


Now that I think of it, were there any females in the audience?


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Re: Young married Vito-good husband????? [Re: johnny ola] #425208
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Well, she got a pear. He didn't get a pear.


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"To you, she's beautiful. For me, there's only my wife and son."

In that very scene, Vito was very clear to Genco about what his blood family meant to him.


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Re: Young married Vito-good husband????? [Re: johnny ola] #425240
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 Originally Posted By: johnny ola

Now that I think of it, were there any females in the audience?


FWIW . . . Yes there were some females in the audience.

Re: Young married Vito-good husband????? [Re: pizzaboy] #425258
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 Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
"To you, she's beautiful. For me, there's only my wife and son."

In that very scene, Vito was very clear to Genco about what his blood family meant to him.


I think that quote also nails that Vito was a good family man.

Re: Young married Vito-good husband????? [Re: olivant] #425340
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 Originally Posted By: olivant
Well, she got a pear. He didn't get a pear.


Did you miss the pair on his girlfriend?


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Actually, for that era, it was quite common for the men to go out together and leave their wives and children at home. I remember my mom telling me that.


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 Originally Posted By: Sicilian Babe
Actually, for that era, it was quite common for the men to go out together and leave their wives and children at home. I remember my mom telling me that.


Now, you mean to say that it's not common now?

Of course, in the novel Vito answers Connie's question about whether he ever beat her mother. Vito did not answer "Perish the thought." Instead, he answered "She never gave me reason to." Quite revealing, don't you think? In other words, he was prepared to engage in spousal abuse if he determined that he had a good reason. So much for depth of character.


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 Originally Posted By: olivant
 Originally Posted By: Sicilian Babe
Actually, for that era, it was quite common for the men to go out together and leave their wives and children at home. I remember my mom telling me that.


Now, you mean to say that it's not common now?

Of course, in the novel Vito answers Connie's question about whether he ever beat her mother. Vito did not answer "Perish the thought." Instead, he answered "She never gave me reason to." Quite revealing, don't you think? In other words, he was prepared to engage in spousal abuse if he determined that he had a good reason. So much for depth of character.


A reason like IT WAS AN ABORTION ! slap.

I think i'll have to read that book again to see what Vito thought, But the book and the movie are two different things so the impression i got was (by just watching the movie) that Vito would never hit his wife, it would be out of charachter for me.

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Seriously though, when you really think about it, in a strange and twisted way, Vito actually was a good husband and family man.

It was his wanting to be a good husband and family man that made him make some of the decisions that he made. After the Fanucci debacle in Genco's grocery store, that caused Vito to lose his job, it was then that I believe that he decided that he would do whatever was neccessary to provide for his wife and his family. It was then that he realized in order to be a good husband to his wife and a good father to his children, he would do whatever it took not to have happen to them what happened to his mother and family.

I believe that deep down, Vito really was thinking of his wife and family when he came to the realization that Fanucci had to go.



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If you put the time frame and the male dominated culture in which Vito lived, he was a warm and caring husband and father.
His gesture of spending his last cent on a pear for his wife is one of the most tender in the trilogy. We also see him sitting on the stoop with his wife and kids, and we know he takes them all to Sicily for a vacation (of course he did have other business to attend to). Throughout there a number of foreshadowings which show that Michael was his favorite.


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Of course, the road to hell is paved with good intentions.


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 Originally Posted By: olivant
Of course, the road to hell is paved with good intentions.


This is very true.



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 Originally Posted By: johnny ola
Then what is he doing running to Italian shows with Genco, and leaving his wife home alone with his son in that dumpy Ralph Kramden apartment?

I think that when he said that quote it was simply about the fact that Sonny betrayed his wife with hs mistress.


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 Originally Posted By: Don Cardi
Seriously though, when you really think about it, in a strange and twisted way, Vito actually was a good husband and family man.

It was his wanting to be a good husband and family man that made him make some of the decisions that he made. After the Fanucci debacle in Genco's grocery store, that caused Vito to lose his job, it was then that I believe that he decided that he would do whatever was neccessary to provide for his wife and his family. It was then that he realized in order to be a good husband to his wife and a good father to his children, he would do whatever it took not to have happen to them what happened to his mother and family.

I believe that deep down, Vito really was thinking of his wife and family when he came to the realization that Fanucci had to go.


Hey he could have gotten another legitimate job instead of stealing womens dresses.



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 Originally Posted By: johnny ola
 Originally Posted By: Don Cardi
Seriously though, when you really think about it, in a strange and twisted way, Vito actually was a good husband and family man.

It was his wanting to be a good husband and family man that made him make some of the decisions that he made. After the Fanucci debacle in Genco's grocery store, that caused Vito to lose his job, it was then that I believe that he decided that he would do whatever was neccessary to provide for his wife and his family. It was then that he realized in order to be a good husband to his wife and a good father to his children, he would do whatever it took not to have happen to them what happened to his mother and family.

I believe that deep down, Vito really was thinking of his wife and family when he came to the realization that Fanucci had to go.


Hey he could have gotten another legitimate job instead of stealing womens dresses.



Agreed DC.

As for the cartoon, that is Vito and Anthony in Part III.


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