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Neri #422939
08/07/07 07:23 PM
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Al Neri is my favorite supporting character. I always wondered about his relationship with Michael in part III when, during the helicopter scene, he called Michael "Mikey" before taking him out to safety.
Seems kind of chummy. Was Neri still his bodyguard/chief assassin at that point?

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Re: Neri [Re: lucylu] #422940
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He helped Michael get in and out of the car.

If you like the Neri character, you MUST read the book.


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Re: Neri [Re: pizzaboy] #422948
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Honestly, it's been a while since I've read it.

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Yes, he was still Mike's Major Domo. That's one reason that Kay didn't like him.


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I read somewhere else that Neri was a capo in part III. Is that true?

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 Originally Posted By: lucylu
I read somewhere else that Neri was a capo in part III. Is that true?

If you take a close look at the board of the Corleone Crime Family that was used in the Senate hearings in part II, Al Neri and Rocco Lampone are listed as Capos. So, Neri was a capo by part II, Im assuming by the end of part I.

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The impression I got was that Neri in Part III was a kind of "family retainer," running on familiarity and loyalty, rather than vital services performed on a day-to-day basis for his Don.
Lucylu, you should re-read the chapter on how Neri joined the Corleone Family--one of the best backstories in the novel that never made it to the films.


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Re: Neri [Re: Turnbull] #423057
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The Neri story is one of my favorite parts of the book. Wish they'd have included more of it in the movies, but heck, you can only show so much I guess.




Long as I remember The rain been coming down.
Clouds of Mystery pouring Confusion on the ground.
Good men through the ages, Trying to find the sun;
And I wonder, Still I wonder, Who'll stop the rain.

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Agreed.The Neri story is a standout.


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I loved the back ground story of Neri also. But, since reading the book many times, it's always a little disappointing coming to that chapter because I know the whole story is ending.

I do wish the Lucy Mancini background was shorter!!!


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Well if her genitals were smaller her story would have been shorter.

Terrible, I know.


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Neri was sent to command Tessio's regime. But, as I posted above and as TB states, Neri's role evolved as Michael denuded himself of involvement in family operations.


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 Originally Posted By: HamptonHitMan

I do wish the Lucy Mancini background was shorter!!!

You and me both.
Puzo was one of those writers (like Ian Fleming) who couldn't resist passing along in his novels any and all specialized knowledge he'd picked up in his experience. Fleming used this technique to great effect in the Bond novels, but Puzo was ham-handed. It's pretty clear to me that some female of Puzo's acquaintance had had the condition and the operation; that Puzo interested himself in it--and couldn't resist passing along the whole sorry description in "The Godfather." So, it seems, he created those endless Jules-and-Lucy chapters for the sole purpose of permitting himself to describe her operation.

Johnny Fontaine serves a very useful purpose in the beginning to illustrate what it meant for him to have Vito as his godfather; and to set the stage for the excellent Woltz and horse-decapitation scene, which illustrated Vito's ruthlessness. Thereafter, Fontaine (and his pal Nino) clutter up the novel for one purpose: to allow Puzo to show off all the stuff he learned in Hollywood before the novel was published. Thank goodness FFC left most of that out in the film. The main reason, IMO, that the TV movie of "The Last Don" was so superior to the novel was that the movie left out most of the Hollywood crap that wrecked the novel.


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E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu...
E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu
Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
Re: Neri [Re: Turnbull] #423597
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 Originally Posted By: Turnbull
 Originally Posted By: HamptonHitMan

I do wish the Lucy Mancini background was shorter!!!

You and me both.
Puzo was one of those writers (like Ian Fleming) who couldn't resist passing along in his novels any and all specialized knowledge he'd picked up in his experience. Fleming used this technique to great effect in the Bond novels, but Puzo was ham-handed. It's pretty clear to me that some female of Puzo's acquaintance had had the condition and the operation; that Puzo interested himself in it--and couldn't resist passing along the whole sorry description in "The Godfather." So, it seems, he created those endless Jules-and-Lucy chapters for the sole purpose of permitting himself to describe her operation.

Johnny Fontaine serves a very useful purpose in the beginning to illustrate what it meant for him to have Vito as his godfather; and to set the stage for the excellent Woltz and horse-decapitation scene, which illustrated Vito's ruthlessness. Thereafter, Fontaine (and his pal Nino) clutter up the novel for one purpose: to allow Puzo to show off all the stuff he learned in Hollywood before the novel was published. Thank goodness FFC left most of that out in the film. The main reason, IMO, that the TV movie of "The Last Don" was so superior to the novel was that the movie left out most of the Hollywood crap that wrecked the novel.


It's interesting that given all the emphasis on Fontaine's involvement with the Don, there is no info on how the Don and Fontaine became associated except the reference to the Don as Fontaine's godfather.


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Re: Neri [Re: olivant] #423828
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I never thought about that before, but that's true...




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Clouds of Mystery pouring Confusion on the ground.
Good men through the ages, Trying to find the sun;
And I wonder, Still I wonder, Who'll stop the rain.


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