Here are those pictures of Shea I promised. In the last one, you can see the very early beginning of the Mets' new ballpark beyond centerfield.

Beautiful stadium - thanks for posting these, Lou.

In reality, not really. It may the worst in MLB. It just looks pretty in those pictures.

Well, I never would've known, judging by those pics.

I think it's just the look of any baseball field that impresses me.

So what's the deal on the new stadium? I don't think I'd even heard about one being built. When is it due to be ready? And I suppose it'll be like the Cardinals', being set up right next door?

I really don't see what's so terrible about Shea.

Sure, with all of the brand new stadiums built in the last few years it's not state-of-the-art like it was in 1964, and because it's no longer new may now be "one of the worst", but I don't see what's wrong with it.

I'd much rather go to Shea than to Yankee Stadium. I think it's easier getting in and out and to and from your seat, and it's considerably more comfortable and roomy inside.

It will open at the start of the 2009 season. It will be located in the current parking lot, behind Shea's centerfield. The lot is now closed. In the last picture, you can see the heavy equipment they've started to move into the area. Official groundbreaking is next month, I believe.

Wow, that'd be interesting to watch it all unfold.

Thanks for that info - another baseball tidbit for me to know...which I can always use.

It's terrible. The bathrooms are a disgrace. Getting to your seat is a chore. There is no place to eat except for over-priced fastfood. Many of the Loge and Mezzanine reserved seats have a terrible view, where you can't see fly balls because of the overhang. When the game is over, if there's a large crowd, you get stuck in a large mass of humanity due to the very narrow walkways. As for getting there, I much rather travel to Shea than Yankee Stadium.

On another note, I wish they'd leave Giants' Stadium alone. I have season tickets, and have been almost every Giant game ever played there. I really don't want a new stadium. I have excellent seats, and have no complaints about the stadium.

You're right about the overhang in the loge and mezzanine.

The bathrooms can be fixed up, though. That's no reason to build a new stadium, although since they're not using taxpayer's money, I really don't care.

The walkways at Yankee Stadium are even narrower, I think, and getting in and out of there is worse, IMO.

The way you feel about Giants Stadium is the way I feel about the Nets moving to Brooklyn.

Shea will always have a place im my heart, but I'll be glad to see it go.

Hey Lou, did anyone ever tell you what a great pal you are?


Don Cardi

Yeah. It's amazing how many pals I have from September to January.

Tough loss tonight.

That's four blown saves for Wagner this year.

Five, really, except the game against the Yankees when he came in with a 4-0 lead and gave up four runs and allowed them to tie the score (and eventually win the game) doesn't count because since the Mets were up by four runs it's not considered a "Save Opportunity". :rolleyes:

Lori and I are going to the game tomorrow. I won two tix in a raffle at work (good seats.... between home and first). Hmmmm, the last time I sat there was in Chicago and I got to visit an Emergency Room. I think I'll bring my glove this time.

Pedro's pitching!

Good game, good seats, lousy weather.

It felt like it was over 100°.... the humidity was stifling. Lori asked why so many people were wearing shirts with the name "Wright" on them. Two home runs and 4 rbi's later she knew. (I told her that all the women who wore that shirt were doing so because they were looking for Mr. Right).

I'm proud that the Mets are doing so much better this year and the Yankees are really sucking, what an odd change of events The Mets rock and win or lose I'm behind them 110%. I'm a Mets fan for life.

I played golf today, and we couldn't finish 18 holes. We walked the course, and by the 12th hole we were shot.

Yeah, because being 2nd in the AL East = "really sucking." :rolleyes:

Hey, I like the Mets too, but I still love the Yanks. :p

No, but when I returned to work Friday night five different people asked to see my hand (looking for stitches).

Looks like I missed a good double-header today in the Fantasy League.

According to the forecasts it doesn't look too promising that they'll get two in today anyway.


Don Cardi

Yea how about those Mets? You guys F^@&ing sucked.

Go Sox 12 in a row, 15 games w/o an error

Subway series, I can't wait.

There's along way to go before we get a subway series.

The Mets look like they may be the best team in the NL, but St. Louis still scares me.

And the Yankees, of course, have to worry about even making the the playoffs before they start thinking about the World Series.

Not to say that it can't happen, but to put it in a little bit of perspective......

If you want to bet on the Mets winning the NL championship, my sportsbook will give you 1.75 to 1 odds, which means that they give the Mets about a 36% chance.

If you want to bet on the Yankees winning the AL championship, they will give you 7 to 2 odds, which means that they give the Yanks about a 22% chance.

So they consider the chances of both teams making it to the World Series to be about 1 out of 12, or about 8%.

While I understand that these odds do not reflect the teams actual chances of making it, but rather are determined on a pari-mutual basis, the way that racetracks figure odds (when you figure in whatever percentage the sportsbook is taking out from the pool as their profit, the odds are actually a bit lower; maybe around 12-15% or so, let's say) it's interesting that this is the opinion of the general public - or at least that portion of the general public that wagers on baseball.

I just meant the upcoming series...?

Ooooohhhhhhh........

Well, in the immortal words of Emily Litella:

"Never mind"

For all you Mets fans, I heard during the All-Star Game broadcast that David Wright is supposed to appear on Letterman tomorrow night.

Any baseball player is fun to see on a talk show, so I'm looking forward to it.

Also, I'd like to give Wright a thank-you for the homer tonight...if only it was enough. Beltran played great, as well, and it sure was nice to cheer for him again.

I really wanted to see the NL get the win - would've been the first time in ten years! But I love the spirit of the game, regardless. True to its name, it's chock full of all-stars, and that just makes for darn good baseball.

It's been a while since we had any Mets talk.....

I while back we (DC, JL, and I) we wer talking about the Mets trading Milledge for Zito, and we all pretty much agreed that since Zito was in his walk year, it wan't a good deal.

Well, I still wouldn't do it, unless I felt that I was forced to.

Like if the Mets lose Pedro or Glavine for the postseason, and Pelfrey and Maine both turn out to be shit.

But if Pedro and Glavine are both OK, and Pelfrey or Maine turn out to be the goods, I wouldn't think I needed Zito.

But I was on this other Sports Forum/BB I belong to, and someone made a point that I think we overlooked:

If the Mets trade for Zito and then lose him as a free agent, they would get back two #1 draft picks as compensation.

That would make a big difference to me in deciding if I would do the deal or not.

If I felt I needed Zito to advance in the postseason, I'd make the trade.

The Mets may not get this close again for a while.

Who knows? Next year Pedro and Glavine and Delgado could prove to be all washed up - at their age, it goes fast sometimes - and the Mets could slip back into mediocrity.

They should go for it when they're sure they have the chance - this year.

Sanchez out for the year. Mets trade Nady to Pirates for R.Hernandez and O.Perez. Hmmm.

This injury to Sanchez is a huge blow to the Mets. Basically I felt that the Mets were 1 trade away from the world series. Rumor had it that they were very close to aquiring Oswalt. Then the Sanchez news came out and what that did was force Omar to make a trade for that 8th inning reliever. So because of the Sanchez injury the Mets are forced to trade Nady for a reliever to replace Sanchez and now by trading Nady they really cannot package Milledge for a top pitcher in a trade. It looks as though Randolph is going to have to go with Milledge and Chavez in right field now.

It's not so much in losing Sanchez in itself that really hurts the Mets, (of course he was pitching good for them and was a huge addition to this staff) but the domino
effect that it has caused really hurt this teams chance at a truely legitimate shot at aquiring a quality starter to be their number 3 man come playoff time.


Don Cardi