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Re: MLB Buy or Sell Game #264660
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Sell - Not in the NL he isn't. Last year in the AL he was though

BUY or SELL - A-Rod will break whatever home run record Bonds sets?

ronnie, if you were joking ok then. It didn't sound like you were. I don't mind you 'busting' me about BlockBuster (I love working there because it's not a Corporate store thank God). But I thought you seriously had a beef and wanted to know what it was

Re: MLB Buy or Sell Game #264661
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Sell. Just because I think with this record having 2 players in the same era surpass it is asking too much.

Buy or sell: Kerry Wood will have one season where he's not on the DL.


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Re: MLB Buy or Sell Game #264662
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Buy - I don't wanna throw in the towel just yet but looks like he could be another Kevin Brown unfortunately

BUY or SELL - Joe Torre is the best manager in the game right now, hands down

Re: MLB Buy or Sell Game #264663
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Sell: Only because of the hands down qualifier. With guys like Bobby Cox and Tony LaRussa out there, it's hard say to Torre is easily the best manager.

Buy or Sell: Despite all the talk this season about the AL Central finally producing a wild card team, in the end the Twins choke and the drought continues.


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Re: MLB Buy or Sell Game #264664
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Buy - If the Twins even make it

BUY or SELL - The DH should be done away with?

But you gotta say, Torre's won 4 rings in 6 appearances. Cox has won 1 (pitiful) and how many has Tony won? 1 with Oakland at least, right?

Re: MLB Buy or Sell Game #264665
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Sell: Whether this really will be looked at as the steroids era 50 years from now or not, it has been one of the sports most successful eras in baseball history. Chicks dig the longball, not the feeble swings of pitchers.

Buy or Sell: Since Irishman is going to be answering this anyways, I'll serve one up for him. This Yankees dynasty, as incredible as they have been, will be looked upon with less fascination and lore as other great Yankees teams as a result of payroll.

I agree Irish, it's hard to argue Joe isn't the best manager, but winning 13 straight division titles is incredible, 1 title or not. It's just that the hands down qualifier makes it seem like no argument could ever be made for any one else, and the amount of talent Torre has been blessed with will always leave it open to debate exactly how much Torre had to do with the Yankees success, ala Phil Jackson.


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Re: MLB Buy or Sell Game #264666
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Sell - The guys still have to go out there and win no matter how much the team is worth

BUY or SELL - Ken Griffey Jr. will never play a full season again?

True, Cox has won 13 division titles, but again they're division titles. As impressive as it is, it's still only 1 World Series title he's won. And talk about keeping a team together, how long did Atlanta have Smoltz, Glavine and Maddux (not to mention Chipper). Sure there payroll isn't what the Yankees is, but they keep there players just like the Yankees do

Re: MLB Buy or Sell Game #264667
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Buy: The injuries will only increase as he gets older.

Buy or Sell: The most unbreakable record in sports is Johnny Vandermeer throwing consecutive no-hitters.


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Re: MLB Buy or Sell Game #264668
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What's the record?

Re: MLB Buy or Sell Game #264669
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He threw no-nos is back to back starts. So for someone to break his record of two consecutive no hitters, they would have to throw no hitters in three straight starts. So do you buy or sell that being the most unbreakable record in sports?


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Re: MLB Buy or Sell Game #264670
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Sell - It's too tought what to call the most "unbreakable" record in all of sports

BUY or SELL - Steinbrenner will win at least one more title before stepping down?

Re: MLB Buy or Sell Game #264671
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Buy - I guess that depends on old Georgie's health. It won't be this year. And I doubt he wins won without Torre.

BUY or SELL - Prior to his injuries beginning in 2000, Griffey Jr. was a lock for the Hall of Fame. He's no longer a first-ballot HOFer.

Re: MLB Buy or Sell Game #264672
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I'll buy. Griffey could have as many as Bonds if it wasn't for his injuries.

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BUY OR SELL? : Rafael Palmeiro is an undisputed first ballot Hall Of Famer.


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Re: MLB Buy or Sell Game #264673
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Buy - 500+ home runs and 3,000+ hits

BUY or SELL - Babe Ruth is the greatest baseball player to ever play the game?

Re: MLB Buy or Sell Game #264674
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SELL - Dunno who actually is the best ever(Ty Cobb? Pete Rose?), but Babe Ruth is indeed the most IMPORTANT player in baseball history.
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BUY OR SELL - Albert Pujols of the Cardinals still doesn't get as much respect as he deserves.

Re: MLB Buy or Sell Game #264675
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Buy - Haven't heard much about him this year (think he's been somewhat injured) with Derek Lee threating for the triple crown

BUY or SELL - No one will ever win the triple crown again?

Re: MLB Buy or Sell Game #264676
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SELL - Never is a tricky word. "Ty Cobb's Career hits record can't be broken!", "Lou Gehrig's consecutive game streak is safer than a condom!", "Roger Maris and his 62 homeruns will last far beyond my lifetime"............ya whatever.

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BUY OR SELL - Mark McGwire will be black-balled from Cooperstown by the Baseball writers.

Re: MLB Buy or Sell Game #264677
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Oh and Irish, ya I'm late but I'm sorry I called you soft and fragile. Besides, as a former video store clerk, why should I be criticizing you? Anyway I apologize if your feelings were hurt.

Re: MLB Buy or Sell Game #264678
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Quote:
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SELL - Never is a tricky word. "Ty Cobb's Career hits record can't be broken!", "Lou Gehrig's consecutive game streak is safer than a condom!", "Roger Maris and his 62 homeruns will last far beyond my lifetime"............ya whatever.

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Mark McGwire will be black-balled from Cooperstown by the Baseball writers. [/b]
Sell - I think they'll turn a deaf ear since he pretty much "brought baseball back" after the strike of 1994

BUY or SELL - Sammy Sosa is now off the juice with only 11 home runs so far

Re: MLB Buy or Sell Game #264679
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Quote:
Originally posted by ronnierocketAGO:
Oh and Irish, ya I'm late but I'm sorry I called you soft and fragile. Besides, as a former video store clerk, why should I be criticizing you? Anyway I apologize if your feelings were hurt.
It takes a big man to admit he was wrong and apologize. I admire that and accept. Thank you very much. Just when reading things online it's very hard to capture the readers tone and since it's vitually impossible, things can be taken the wrong way and out of context. From comments I had previously read about you, I thought you did (and still might) have a problem with me? But again, I do appreciate the apology and I apologize too

Re: MLB Buy or Sell Game #264680
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BUY - Well look at Sosa before he miraculously bulked up and hit many many many homeruns. Really, that skinny guy not on roids? NO....

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BUY OR SELL - Florida Marlins are the most disapointing team in the NL East.

Re: MLB Buy or Sell Game #264681
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Buy - Some were predicting them to meet the Yankees in the World Series

BUY or SELL - David Ortiz is the most dangerous batter in the game today? Even more so than Barry Bonds (even though yes he hasn't played this season)?

Re: MLB Buy or Sell Game #264682
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BUY - David Ortiz improves as a hitter and overall as a player every year....hes the most dangerous guy in the AL, methinks.
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BUY OR SELL - Joe Torre will go into Cooperstown as a manager.

Re: MLB Buy or Sell Game #264683
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Buy- The rings speak for themselves

Buy or Sell: Barry Bonds will return and break Aarons record


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Re: MLB Buy or Sell Game #264684
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Buy - He's too close, he'll do it, it's only a matter of time

BUY or SELL - Ken Griffey Jr. is a better home run hitter than Barry Bonds?

Re: MLB Buy or Sell Game #264685
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Sell - 7 years ago, Griffey was a better player than Bonds. Injuries have killed Jr's career.

BUY or SELL - The 4 playoff teams from the AL will be Boston, Chicago, Anaheim and Minnesota as the Wild Card.

Re: MLB Buy or Sell Game #264686
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Sell: The Twins cannot hit their way out of a paper bag. Anyone who they add at the trade deadline will merely be a .250 hitter who doesn't make more than 2 mil. I would have to say Oakland will be the wild card the way they're playing now, but I still wouldn't count out the Yanks. As a Twins season ticket holder, trust me, they're done.

Buy or Sell: The Cubs will win a World Series before I die. (I'm 23 and in perfect health.)


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Re: MLB Buy or Sell Game #264687
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Buy. You figure to live at least another 55 years or so. That's a long time.

Rafael Palmiero is a first ballot HOFer

(Note to ronnierocket: What aspects of Ortiz' game is there to improve besides hitting? He doesn't play the field, and he certainly doesn't run any faster....)


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Re: MLB Buy or Sell Game #264688
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Buy - Again 500+ home runs and 3,000+ hits. I'm sold on the idea

BUY or SELL - Bret Boone was on the juice (look at his decline in numbers, particularly in home runs)

Re: MLB Buy or Sell Game #264689
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Sell: It's certainly possible, but in the games I've seen him play as a Twin, he just flat out has no bat speed anymore. I think it has more to do with age than being off the juice.

Buy or Sell: Pudge Rodriguez has passed Johnny Bench as the best defensive catcher of all-time.

(Note: I've got to agree with Plaw about Ortiz. The only thing he's improved on since he's left the Twins is his ability to stay healthy. People always ask me how the Twins could have gotten rid of him, but he was constantly getting hurt. Nobody said a word about what a mistake it was then because it was the correct decision. I still love him because of the sheer joy he possesses, but he pulled a fat every 5th day with the Twinkies.)


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