The New York Knicks just traded Antonio McDyess, Howard Eisley, Charlie Ward, the rights to Milos Vujanic, two first-round draft picks and cash to the Phoenix Suns for Stephon Marbury and Penny Hardaway!!!!!

Just saw this! Wow! Good trade for the Knicks.

Another team that can give the Sixers problems now. Damn. -Pat

The Knicks now have arguably the best backcourt in the East.

No they don't, dude. Allan Houston and Stephon Marbury? What're you talking about?
Eric Snow and Allen Iverson
Jason Kidd and Kerry Kittles
Chauncey Billups and Rip Hamilton

I'd take any of those 3 PG over Marbury and I'd take Iverson or Hamilton over Houston any day. -Pat

Sorry dude, but Marbury and Houston are the best. It may be hard to believe, but only two people in the history of basketball have career averages of over 20 points and 8 assists per game- Oscar Robertson and Stephon Marbury. Eric Snow is a joke, I'm sorry. Kerry Kittles isn't as good as Houston.

I know Kittles isn't as good as Houston. I didn't say he was. I said I'd take AI oR Rip over Houston any day. Marbury has never had anyone decent to work with in Phoenix though. I think Shawn Marion is one of the most over rated players in the game and that Marbury didn't get 20 and 8 a game, they'd be one of the worst teams in the league. Oh, that's right, they are. As far as Snow, I think he's the most under rated player in the game. He should definetly be on the All-Star team but people fail to recognize him because he cannot shoot the 3 good. -Pat

Rip is a one-dimensional player though. All he can do is shoot.

I know. But he's consistent. He'll get you atleast 15 points a game or more. Houston needs the 3 to be falling if he heats up. -Pat

What about Tayshaun Prince... I thought he was the 2-guard...

Stephon Marbury couldn't even sniff Oscar's jockstrap. Oscar averaged 25.7 ppg, 9.5 apg, and 7.5 rpg over 14 seasons. Marbury is averaging 20.5 ppg, 8.2 apg, and 3.1 rpg through his first 8.

Oscar's first 8 season averages were 30.3 ppg, 10.6 apg, and 9.0 rpg.

I'm not disputing that Oscar and Stephon are the only two guys to have career averages of 20 and 8. But that's one of those fabricated stats to try to isolate Marbury with a select group of people to make him sound like a hall of famer.

Marbury is entertaining as hell and is a great player, but he does not deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as Oscar.

that's absolutely true, but i'm merely stating facts.

This was robbery in broad daylight.

As a big Nets fan, and therefore a confirmed Knick-hater, I must say that I'm not too pleased. I do recall the non-existent chemistry between Marbury and Van Horn when both were in New Jersey, though, so I'm holding out hope that the Knicks will still stink.

Best backcourt in the East? If Houston is healthy, and Marbury doesn't look to shoot first before passing (like he usually does, 8 APG not withstanding), then I gotta say the Knicks.

Kidd-Kittles is close. Billiups & Hamilton? Don't make me laugh. Eric Snow? What does he do better than, or even nearly as good as, Kidd or Marbury? And given his shooting percentage, I'd say Iverson is one of the most over-rated players in the game.

Give them some time to adjust to each other, and I think the Knicks are potentially the fifth best team in the East, behind only the Nets, Pacers, Pistons, and Hornets.

No.

PL--Come watch Eric Snow play. He's an under rated player. He can easily to get you 10 points, 7 assists, 5 rebounds a night. Very under rated. -Pat

Rumors are now flying all over the New York metropolitan area that Keith Van Horn might soon be traded to Portland for Rasheed Wallace.

That would make the Knicks at least one of the top 3 or 4 teams in the East.

That would be a dumb move by the Knicks. Wallace only has 1 year left on his contract and is an unrestricted free agent at the end of the season. -Pat

It would free up cap room.

If they want to free up cap room, they need to get rid of Hardaway. Van Horn is only making $12 million a season for the next 3 seasons and Wallace is getting $17 million for this season. So Wallace has the bigger contract. I don't think you'd just want a $17 million guy for half of a season when you can have another guy who is younger for $12 million a season for 3 more years. -Pat

Patrick, think about this one. They free up cap room with Rasheed. Then they engineer a sign-and-trade for Kobe Bryant involving Allan Houston.

Allan Houston will be retiring soon for one thing. And btw, Kobe is a free agent at the end of the season. I guarantee you that a Kobe/Allan trade wouldn't happen. Ever. Ever, ever, ever. Are you Isiah's assistant or something? :p -Pat

That's the point of a sign-and-trade, Patrick. It's for when you can't sign a free agent under the cap, so you get another team to do it and then trade them who they want.

Valadius-Kobe will resign with LA. -Pat

If Kobe stays in LA it will be with the Clippers. The reality is that Kobe wants his own team, he's tired of "Shaq and Kobe". He won't stay with the Lakers.

If he goes to the Clippers the only ring he'll see is the $3 million dollar one that he bought his wife.

That's why I think he's going to Memphis, to reunite with Jerry West, his friend and confidant.

whataknow as soon as the knickerbockers get rid of Scott-im trying to lose-Layden, they improve der team. ive always been a knicks fan so i was pumped when i heard the news. just think if "asshole" didnt trade Spree for van horn.

it wasnt a perfect trade tho- they gave up 2 1st rounders which concerns me & penny makes way more than his worth. My guess is the Suns really wanted to get rid of him & said, "no penny, no steph"

It also hurt to see Charlie Ward go. I woulda liked to see them hang on to him as starburys backup. i went to his camp for 2 years and hes one of the best persons ive ever met- he was also der starting PG when they went to the finals

As for Eric Snow he lays it on the line more than any player ive seen in the league- i got so much respect for him. Him and AI make up the touhgest backcourt hands down. dont know if their the best but that might be the BC that id take in a must-win game

fuck the sixers!