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Re: For Americans...
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11/30/05 11:01 AM
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Originally posted by Turnbull:
They charicatured Brits as always being named "John" and always eating cheese. Hence Dutch New Yorkers referred to British New Yorkers as "Jan Kaes" Maar zoals Turnbull zei, komt het wel van Jan Kaas, omdat ze altijd kaas aan het eten waren. En na verbasteringen (kaas => kaes => kees) komen we bij yankees. En noemen we Nederlanders hier trouwens niet keeskoppen? 
See, we can act as smart as we want, but at the end of the day, we still follow a guy who fucks himself with kebab skewers.
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Re: For Americans...
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12/02/05 12:33 AM
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Originally posted by Enzo Scifo:
I noticed many Americans know very much about the American maffia, but meanwhile they know nothing about the Sicilian maffia.
What's your case, American? :p
Do you know something about the 'true' maffia, from Sicily, where it all started? Do you know who Calo Vizzini is? Or Cascio-Ferro? Or Badalamenti?
If not, what is the reason for this lack of knowledge?
Hope I'll get any answers, and thanks in advance. I know that Baldamenti was involved in the Pizza Connection, when the Sicilians actually took over the Bonnanos for a time, but he was in exile and on a death list from the Corleonesi mafia who had defeated the other families based in Palermo. I know that the Sicillians are willing to kill judges, government officials, police; something the American LCN has avoided. They will kill innocent family members of their enemies as well. I know that the Sicillian LCN were in some kind of an alliance with members of the Christian Democrat Party; the exact relationship is still not fully understood. I reccomend that people read 'The Octupus (the long reach of the Sicillian Mafia)' for a good overview into the 80's. I also suggest 'Excelent Cadavers' about the judges who bravely carried out there duties and prosecuted the Mafia and were killed in the end. I suggest 'The Last Days of the Sicillians' for a detailed examination of the Pizza Connection and Baldamenti's role in it.
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Re: For Americans...
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12/02/05 12:09 PM
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Willy, you mentioned earlier that Cola Gentile's biography was translated in Englisch after the book of Dicke. I read that book and that part was very interesting. Do you know if there is more stuff about him translated to Englisch?
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Re: For Americans...
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12/09/05 09:57 AM
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Originally posted by Enzo Scifo: [quote]Originally posted by Turnbull:
[b] This reminds me of a story I read many years ago:
It is said that the origin of the word "Yankee" occured when the Dutch lost Niew Amsterdam to the Duke of York. The still-largely Dutch population of New York deeply resented their new British masters. They charicatured Brits as always being named "John" and always eating cheese. Hence Dutch New Yorkers referred to British New Yorkers as "Jan Kaes" or as it became, "Yankees."
Imagine Fidel Castro constantly denouncing Americans with an ancient Dutch expression. 
Another theory is that "Yankees" originated in another Dutch word, "Jankes," which I believe means "barking dog."  Nice, I didn't know that. But I also have to correct you on some things. Cheese in Dutch is 'kaas', not 'kaes'. But in the spelling of that time (17th century), it was indeed 'kaes'. The former name of NY was Nieuw (so not niew) Amsterdam. And a 'janker' literally means 'cryer'.  So children, that was all for today's Dutch class... [/b][/quote]The truth about this story (as I know it) is that the English called the Dutch Yankees because most of them had the first names "Jan" and "Kees". some more Dutch NYC Trivia while I am at it: Brooklyn - Named after the small town of "Breukelen" Harlem - Named after the city of "Haarlem" Wall Street - Used to be "Wal Straat" - Wall as in dike. Albany - Used to be called "Beverwyck" And of course: Stuyvesant, Bleeker, etc
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Re: For Americans...
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12/09/05 10:01 AM
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Originally posted by E Lucky R:
The truth about this story (as I know it) is that the English called the Dutch Yankees because most of them had the first names "Jan" and "Kees".
some more Dutch NYC Trivia while I am at it:
Brooklyn - Named after the small town of "Breukelen"
Harlem - Named after the city of "Haarlem"
Wall Street - Used to be "Wal Straat" - Wall as in dike.
Albany - Used to be called "Beverwyck"
And of course: Stuyvesant, Bleeker, etc To add something: A suburb of Antwerp is called Hoboken...
See, we can act as smart as we want, but at the end of the day, we still follow a guy who fucks himself with kebab skewers.
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