Ray and Eddie are related to Gaeton Lucibello--I think their mother is Gate's sister. You'll see them at Memories in Margate for the summer for sure, and Ray visited Joey enough in Florida that people thought he might be the bagman. I think Eddie (the taller one) has been the head guy in the Jesters' Mummers parade every year. Not violent guys, mostly book and social club sort of stuff. Around the way sort of guys.