hairy I just took quick look at gravanos tail. he says he was made by big paul so the Gambino books may have been closed up untll Gambino died in oct 76. goes down the cellar to big paul joe n and neil. now we got gaspipe who said he was made in 1974 the guy real old Genovese guy barone who flip cause chins kid wanted him dead said also he was made in 74 also fish cafaro. Michael franses goin all the way back 1993 to when his 1st book came out said it was 1975 Halloween he has never backd off that claim he was 24 or 25, could you imagine gottis guys havin to kiss his ass. then you had buster ardito the Genovese capo talking to his wired up lawyer friend pete p. "they let all the rats in when they open the books in 74". Im thinking carlo was dead set against opening the books and was the driving factor in having them closed in 58 or 59. ardito also was caught on the lawyers wire saing he came in 1958. and finally you got massino testimony someone put up online, very hard to hair.galante started making al those guys in 77 copa,lino,d'amico,massino.

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