That last statement is an oxymoron right?
No other crime group in the US influence public life...your missing other groups Joke.

Exactly, people like to compare LCN to the Russian Mafia in Russia or the cartels in their own countries which is bullshit because the law enforcement in those countries is a joke compared to the fed bastards in the states. The Russians are an overated joke in the states, and in the states the cartels are just drug peddling goons, not much political clout or anything like that.

Sure, street gangs, biker gangs, other ethnic mobs...have influence in their enclaves...but to the extent the Mafia penetrated vast political and legitimate business spheres? I don't think so. To "some" extent, yes, but as vast and infiltrating as the Mafia did it? Not even close.

How vast are you speaking of in political and legitimate businesses? It seems abit of exxageration but I'm attentive to see a listing of sorts.

Well, the unions for one...building and contracting...as well as the usual mobbed up bars, restaurants, garages...etc...etc...
At their peak, they even managed to create an entire city (Las Vegas).
Sure, other criminal organizations are involved in political en legitimate businesses, but to the extent of the Mob? In an advanced society? I'm not sure about that.

That's not saying an average Italian-American criminal is more intelligent per se than an average African American, Russian...etc...etc...one. It's more of a "right time, right place" case when they rose to power.

I completely agree, thus many other crime groups nowdays are overrated and publicized making a hype out of them for the public.

lol you forgot the italian mafia/cosa nostra didn't exist for american law in te past and even hoower denied it existed, only in 1970s they started to say it was a criminal group with ranks and rituals, if i'm not right

Well, the unions for one...building and contracting...as well as the usual mobbed up bars, restaurants, garages...etc...etc...
At their peak, they even managed to create an entire city (Las Vegas).
Sure, other criminal organizations are involved in political en legitimate businesses, but to the extent of the Mob? In an advanced society? I'm not sure about that.

That's not saying an average Italian-American criminal is more intelligent per se than an average African American, Russian...etc...etc...one. It's more of a "right time, right place" case when they rose to power.[/quote]

I give the labor unions as being LCN advantage bar none.
Building/contracting have and still being committed even by freelance racketeers.
Legit/Fronts businesses such as bars, clubs, restuarants, car washes, laundromats, auto shops, and clubhouses ( 1% clubs) had and currently involved a myriad of crime groups
Political corruption was rampant nationwide during LCN prime and crime groups took advantage from Jewish crime groups to Policy/Numbers operators and Bootleggers. Alongside came Bikers & Chicago Street Orgs as well.

Yes , I'm certain in an advance society there were other crime groups involved in legit establishments and corruption in their locale. It's just they're rooted in America not an offshoot of a foreign criminal association.

lcn is also heavily involved in waste disposal, i doubt street gangs, bikers or others ara involved in that field

The Irish, Jewish and Italian criminals had the political connections in the US.

Basically everybody at some point.

In terms of wealth it’s the Mexico DTOs

In terms of Power / Influence it’s the West side hands down

They can still shut down the largest port in North East and could also disrupt certain Trucking and Garbage removal / recycling business if they wanted to ( trash piling up and / or weigh / transport / landfill operations closing which could cause environmental issues not to mention garbage being backed up everywhere )

See the Port Newark strike several years ago which was largely due to WFC hiring practices . Now that’s real silent power if you can shut down global trade in the most wealthy region on the planet ( NYC , NE NJ etc.) and power DTOs don’t have .

They only walked off for a day but if they decided to strike for a week almost every large company in the USA earnings would be affected

They could also seriously disrupt construction operations (trucking of supplies , carpenter and concrete services ) in the NY / NJ area if they really wanted to .

Their power in these industries has waned but they are still relevant and active in certain areas

Whats the West side if i may ask?

Genovese Family

I suppose this subject may deserve a thread of its own , but how much state/federal level pull do most LCN groups have in the present day US ? My hunch is that little to none , especially outside of the Northeast and Chicago area .

Even in their prime golden age it was local officials.

Funny that American crime groups don't have international presence like these other groups.

Didn't the Chicago Outfit and the Tampa family have CIA connections in their heyday though ? I've also read that many big time LCN heroin traffickers shared the secret service connections of their Corsican and Sicilian counterparts during the French/Pizza Connection days , though that could be mere conjecture .

I don't think the Outfit nor Tampa family had that type of connection as you may be thinking of.