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The Philadelphia Crime Family circa 1954-1966
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10/07/20 10:03 PM
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A group with territory mainly in South Philadelphia and South Jersey, it also has influence in upstate Pennsylvania, North Jersey and the surrounding Tri-state area.
Upper Echelon Members of Various Leadership Roles 1.) JOSEPH "JOE" IDA (previous Boss, connections to Vito Genovese and Joe Bonanno of New York. Joe Barbara of upstate New York and Santo Trafficante of Florida.) 2.) ANGELO BRUNO (Overseer of small gambling empire/Top Boss. Most Influential in this area with long standing ties to Carlo Gambino of NY and Russell Bufalino of Pennsylvania) 3.) ANTONIO "MR. MIGGS" POLLINA (Interim power/acting boss between Ida and his rival Bruno) 4.) GUISEPPE "JOE" RUGNETTA (Longtime Consigliere/Representative of the Calabrian Faction) 5.) MARCO "SMALL MAN" REGINELLI ( Original head of New Jersey Faction, Highly Important Member with ties to the NY Families. Mentor to Bruno.) 6.) IGNAZIO "NATZ" DENARO ( Bruno's Underboss) 7.) DOMINIC "BIG DOM" OLIVETO ( Another Interim Power, successor to Reginelli's position of prominence. Rival of Bruno. )
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FELIX "SKINNY RAZOR" DI TULLIO PASQUALE "PATSY" MASSI NICHOLAS "NICKY BUCK" PICCOLO JOSEPH SCAFIDI PHILLIP "CHICKEN MAN" TESTA JOSEPH SCIGLITANO JOHN "JOHNNY KEYS" SIMONE ALFRED IEZZA
SOLDATO/SOLDIERS (Membership spread genarally in South Philly, South Jersey and Northern Jersey) The Criminal Expertise: Bookmaking, Numbers, Illegal Casinos/Games. Loansharking, Sports/Boxing Infiltration, Freelance/Small-scale Drug Trafficking
LUIGI QUARANTA ANTONINO "NINO" CALIO FRANK MONTE SANTO "CHESTER SAM" IDONE AUGUSTINE AMATO ROCCO SCAFIDI MICHELE MAGGIO FRANK "BLINKY" PALERMO RALPH "BLACKIE" NAPOLI CHARLES "PINKY" COSTELLO DOMINICK "MIKEY DIAMOND" DEVITO VINCENT "JIMMY CHRISTY" GIOELLA DOMINICK LE PORE VITO GENNA BRUNO D'ELIA JOHN BOTTE ALBERT "LULU" ESPOSITO JOSEPH "JOE GIBBONS" LAZZARO EDWARD CAMINITI ANGELO TURCO SANTO ROMEO MICHELE "NEW YORK MIKE" MACALUSO ROCCO DI CONDINA JOSEPH "JOE BUCK" PICCOLO DEMETRIO PENNESTRI FRANK "CHICKIE" NARDUCCI NICODEMO "LITTLE NICKY" SCARFO JACK PARISI FRANK PICCOLO LEONARDO GALANTE FRANCESCO DONNIANNI MARIO "SONNY" RICCOBENE CARMINE "LITTLE C" BATTAGLIA FRANK ALTADONNA JOSEPH FUSCI DOMINICK FESTA GUISEPPE CARO MICHAEL TRAMANTANA SALVATORE "CHUCKIE" MERLINO FRANCESCO "DON CHEECH" BARALE ROCCO "ROXEY ALLEN" AULETTO MICHELE ROMEO ANGELO "SKUTCHIE" CHIRICO JOSEPH LANCIANO ERNIE PERRICONE GAETANO "BIG TOM" SCAFIDI FRANCESCO "FRANK CARUSO" NICOLETTI PETER MAGGIO FELIX BOCCHICCHIO VINCENZO "UPSTATE JIMMY" AMATO CARL "PAPPY" IPPOLITTO FRANK SINDONE ALFRED ANGELICOLA MICHAEL CAMMAROTA SAM PUNGITORE PETER CASELLA ANTHONIO "TONY BANANAS" CAPONIGRO HARRY "THE HUNCHBACK" RICCOBENE
Once again this is not the Bible or 100% accurate but merely a generalization of the landscape during this period of time. I am not an expert on Philadelphia and I am sure some of our members who are (and personally known of certain things) will correct me, tell me to add to or subtract from the list. Hopefully this can be an enlightening thread. Many of these lesser know guys have interesting mob stories. Hopefully some clarity can be made about the power of the ANGELO BRUNO Family at that time.
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Re: The Philadelphia Crime Family circa 1954-1966
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10/08/20 10:20 AM
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Interesting info regarding the Philly Mob - they actually started out as part of the Castellammarese Clan in Williamsburg up until 1931, then split off as their own family. John "Nazzone" Avena took over after Maranzano's death in 1931. I remember reading in Joe Bonanno's book that he insulted Salvatore Sabella's brother Michele, Michele asked Sal to come over to New York while Joe called on Steve Magaddino for support, but Maranzano took Bonanno under his wing.
Some questions to ask though: 1. Was Sabella asked by Bonanno to step down or did he retire voluntarily? 2. Who was Angelo Bruno's sponsor and when was he inducted into the Philly Mob? 3. It is true that Salvatore Sabella's related to Mike "Mimi" Sabella (one of the Bonanno mobsters involved in the Donnie Brasco scandal and a loyal henchman of Carmine Galante), but how?
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Re: The Philadelphia Crime Family circa 1954-1966
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10/08/20 10:38 AM
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Good Questions. 1.) You are confusing MICHELE "MIKE" SABELLA of the later donnie brasco era and his (I believe Uncle or at least older cousin) DOMENICO "MIMI" SABELLA. Mike was sometimes referred to as "Mimi" as well. Yes, they were related to the original Boss SALVATORE SABELLA. Being on the losing side of the Castellamarese War, he was not seen as part of the new guard by LUCIANO. He was probably asked to retire and because of the impending violence chose wisely. And Although Bonanno would be losing a Castellamarese ally "in theory", he probably felt safer being able to remove a future problem.
2.) I don't know who actually sponsored ANGELO BRUNO for membership. I know his ties to the like of Carlo Gambino go back to prohibition, so its safe to he was a ringer to be made.... He did take the "criminal alias" "BRUNO" after an early family power JOE "Bruno" DOVI. ANGELO was also taken under the wing of Nj Gambling Chief MARCO REGINELLI. HARRY RICCOBENE had a pleasant memory of BRUNO coming up. Its also been said that BRUNO was alittle more handy with a gun in his younger days, then given credit for. I'd say he was probably widely endorsed.
3.) I answered in #1.
"Joe Bananas went after Carlo Gambino, the war went on for seven years..... When guys go to the mattresses, they're not out earning" -Tony Soprano
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Re: The Philadelphia Crime Family circa 1954-1966
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10/08/20 11:10 AM
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This is missing Joe Rugnetta.. idk when he became Brunos Consig i thought as soon as he took over? Check #4 in the Upper echelon
"Joe Bananas went after Carlo Gambino, the war went on for seven years..... When guys go to the mattresses, they're not out earning" -Tony Soprano
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Re: The Philadelphia Crime Family circa 1954-1966
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10/08/20 12:01 PM
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This is missing Joe Rugnetta.. idk when he became Brunos Consig i thought as soon as he took over? Check #4 in the Upper echelon Lol my bad i saw Giueseppe and skimmed past.... was he brunos consig from day 1? Doesnt he have a son or nephew thats still involved?
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Re: The Philadelphia Crime Family circa 1954-1966
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This is missing Joe Rugnetta.. idk when he became Brunos Consig i thought as soon as he took over? Check #4 in the Upper echelon Lol my bad i saw Giueseppe and skimmed past.... was he brunos consig from day 1? Doesnt he have a son or nephew thats still involved? I think Joe Rugnetta’s nephew is Dominic Rugnetta... Guy is a few years from being 100 years old. I doubt he’s still active; but you never know.
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Re: The Philadelphia Crime Family circa 1954-1966
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10/08/20 09:24 PM
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Harry Riccobene was quoted as saying, "The only reason Bruno got it was because I didn't want it." I know he was exaggerating but I wonder If Ricconene was ever really in the running for the top spot during that time and did he even have the capabilities of a Boss.
"Joe Bananas went after Carlo Gambino, the war went on for seven years..... When guys go to the mattresses, they're not out earning" -Tony Soprano
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Re: The Philadelphia Crime Family circa 1954-1966
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Before Bruno, the New York Bosses kept a tighter "grip" on the head of that and many of the other smaller Families. I know that Philly had connections to Vito Genovese and Albert Anastasia. During the Castellamarese War, they shown allegiance to Salvatore Maranzano. Joe Ida was connected to Vito Genovese. I am sure on some level Don Vitone was using Ida to position himself better. Once Bruno came to power, Gambino loosened the grip on Philadelphia. Hence, Bruno's Commission seat.
"Joe Bananas went after Carlo Gambino, the war went on for seven years..... When guys go to the mattresses, they're not out earning" -Tony Soprano
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Re: The Philadelphia Crime Family circa 1954-1966
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10/09/20 08:40 AM
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Before Bruno, the New York Bosses kept a tighter "grip" on the head of that and many of the other smaller Families. I know that Philly had connections to Vito Genovese and Albert Anastasia. During the Castellamarese War, they shown allegiance to Salvatore Maranzano. Joe Ida was connected to Vito Genovese. I am sure on some level Don Vitone was using Ida to position himself better. Once Bruno came to power, Gambino loosened the grip on Philadelphia. Hence, Bruno's Commission seat. As Sicilians Gambino and Bruno became simpatico. So much so that I believe they truly liked each other. They were constant companions. As a Napolitano Vito didn't have that same connection I think. Although I could see him staying closer to the mainlanders like Rugnetta, etc. A good example of this was his tight connections to Pittsburgh with the Volpe brothers. When they were killed, Genovese was instrumental in retaliating against the Sicilian Gianni Bazzano.
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Re: The Philadelphia Crime Family circa 1954-1966
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Genovese was definitely dependable when it came to defending his interest. He could be a good short term ally. VERY SHORT TERM.
"Joe Bananas went after Carlo Gambino, the war went on for seven years..... When guys go to the mattresses, they're not out earning" -Tony Soprano
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Re: The Philadelphia Crime Family circa 1954-1966
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This is missing Joe Rugnetta.. idk when he became Brunos Consig i thought as soon as he took over? Check #4 in the Upper echelon Yeah , prodical son!!
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Re: The Philadelphia Crime Family circa 1954-1966
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Before Bruno, the New York Bosses kept a tighter "grip" on the head of that and many of the other smaller Families. I know that Philly had connections to Vito Genovese and Albert Anastasia. During the Castellamarese War, they shown allegiance to Salvatore Maranzano. Joe Ida was connected to Vito Genovese. I am sure on some level Don Vitone was using Ida to position himself better. Once Bruno came to power, Gambino loosened the grip on Philadelphia. Hence, Bruno's Commission seat. As Sicilians Gambino and Bruno became simpatico. So much so that I believe they truly liked each other. They were constant companions. As a Napolitano Vito didn't have that same connection I think. Although I could see him staying closer to the mainlanders like Rugnetta, etc. A good example of this was his tight connections to Pittsburgh with the Volpe brothers. When they were killed, Genovese was instrumental in retaliating against the Sicilian Gianni Bazzano. "They were constant companions"......They together had homes in Fla. basically next door 2 each other & had casino junkets in London in tandem w/ each other.
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Re: The Philadelphia Crime Family circa 1954-1966
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Isn’t there a rumour that Paul Volpe got whacked by Scarfo over some stuff in AC.? Also, any truth to Scarfo and Papalia being friends? If so, how did that friendship come to be?
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Re: The Philadelphia Crime Family circa 1954-1966
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Isn’t there a rumour that Paul Volpe got whacked by Scarfo over some stuff in AC.? Also, any truth to Scarfo and Papalia being friends? If so, how did that friendship come to be? maybe one of our Philly guys can provide some clarification because I don't know the answer
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Re: The Philadelphia Crime Family circa 1954-1966
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Isn’t there a rumour that Paul Volpe got whacked by Scarfo over some stuff in AC.? Also, any truth to Scarfo and Papalia being friends? If so, how did that friendship come to be? maybe on of our Philly guys can provide some clarification because I don't know the answer I think we are talking different era's, and vastly different interests and crews here. I'm not sure that a Papalia and Scarfo would have ever even had the opportunity to meet, let alone do business with one another... Is it possible? Or course, But Scarfo was not an interstate, let alone international type guys. His rackets ran along the same "local" lines as well. Whereas a Johnny (Pops) Papalia was from Canada and heavily into big time narcotics trafficking. Two vastly different focuses. Also the Philly crew in general never really dealt with the Bonanno/Cotroni/Papalia faction to any great degree. So my answer would have to be a pretty firm no.
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Re: The Philadelphia Crime Family circa 1954-1966
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Isn’t there a rumour that Paul Volpe got whacked by Scarfo over some stuff in AC.? Also, any truth to Scarfo and Papalia being friends? If so, how did that friendship come to be? No. Paul Volpe was killed by Buffalo, Scarfo had nothing to do with it, but Scarfo and his uncle made a beef to Angelo Bruno about Volpe in AC, who sided with Volpe. When Bruno was killed, Volpe got out of town while Nicky Buck, Scarfo and their crews took over what they could to salvage what they felt Volpe owned them. Volpe was giving Bruno fat envelopes which is why Bruno sided with him. One of Volpe interests went to a Genovese soldier who was in Bobby Manna crew that gave a strong foothold for them in AC, but Scarfo and company did not beef and felt it was better to make a peaceful alliance with them. John Papalia actually attended a party for the Piccolos, Scarfo was in attendance, if Papalia was friends with anyone to Philly, it would have to be Frank Piccolo, Ralph Napoli, Frank Simone, and a couple of Philly guys he was locked up with, one of them being Peter Casella. Papalia was extradited to New York in the 60s where he rubbed shoulders with a few Philadelphia members.
"I have this Nightmare. I'm on 5th avenue watching the St. Patrick's Day parade and I have a coronary and nine thousand cops march happily over my body." Chief Sidney Green
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Re: The Philadelphia Crime Family circa 1954-1966
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I came across an interesting report done by Villanova University. It was geared primarily towards what it called "The lawful Mafioso". The report, enlightening me to some of the lucrative and quiet Legitimate businesses and businessesmen in the Family during this time. I uncovered a connection between Philadelphia member and Legit businessman NINO CALIO and NY MANGANO member GUISEPPE "THE PEASANT" TRAINA, thru a Yeast Company.... Its interesting how the the lines get crossed in CN
"Joe Bananas went after Carlo Gambino, the war went on for seven years..... When guys go to the mattresses, they're not out earning" -Tony Soprano
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Re: The Philadelphia Crime Family circa 1954-1966
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I came across an interesting report done by Villanova University. It was geared primarily towards what it called "The lawful Mafioso". The report, enlightening me to some of the lucrative and quiet Legitimate businesses and businessesmen in the Family during this time. I uncovered a connection between Philadelphia member and Legit businessman NINO CALIO and NY MANGANO member GUISEPPE "THE PEASANT" TRAINA, thru a Yeast Company.... Its interesting how the the lines get crossed in CN You have struck on a sub-subject very important to me. Not only the "infiltration" of legitimate business by so-called mafia members, but also the very legit investment of their personal monies into what they felt would be lucrative businesses and industries in order to elevate themselves and that of their blood families for the future. I view these type of mafiosi as "visionaries" if you will in that although they may also have been knee-deep in illegal rackets like their mob contemporaries, they were astute and sharp enough to take their racket profits and "reinvest" those monies into business. If you give a good look to some (many actually) of these "sharper" and more business oriented mafia members, you start to see deep patterns of extremely intelligent legit investments. Not only that, but also the successful "operation" of those businesses after they got into them which was no small matter. Whether they be retail type shops, wholesale companies, manufacturing, or controlling entire segments of commerce, etc., it took plenty of brainpower to accomplish the vast goals they set for themselves. These type guys were not "hoodlums" per se, or "dese and dose" push-noses. They were basically sharp, ballsy businessmen with a distinct "edge". A Cosa Nostra edge for sure, but an edge nonetheless. I find THIS aspect of the Italian underworld the most fascinating of all.
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Re: The Philadelphia Crime Family circa 1954-1966
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Another businessman was member MICHELE MAGGIO, of the Maggio Cheese company. In the report I've read, a CI noted that Maggio was a very prominent guy before Bruno's rise, and could've been considered a upper echelon guy.
"Joe Bananas went after Carlo Gambino, the war went on for seven years..... When guys go to the mattresses, they're not out earning" -Tony Soprano
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Re: The Philadelphia Crime Family circa 1954-1966
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Isn’t there a rumour that Paul Volpe got whacked by Scarfo over some stuff in AC.? Also, any truth to Scarfo and Papalia being friends? If so, how did that friendship come to be? No. Paul Volpe was killed by Buffalo, Scarfo had nothing to do with it, but Scarfo and his uncle made a beef to Angelo Bruno about Volpe in AC, who sided with Volpe. When Bruno was killed, Volpe got out of town while Nicky Buck, Scarfo and their crews took over what they could to salvage what they felt Volpe owned them. Volpe was giving Bruno fat envelopes which is why Bruno sided with him. One of Volpe interests went to a Genovese soldier who was in Bobby Manna crew that gave a strong foothold for them in AC, but Scarfo and company did not beef and felt it was better to make a peaceful alliance with them. John Papalia actually attended a party for the Piccolos, Scarfo was in attendance, if Papalia was friends with anyone to Philly, it would have to be Frank Piccolo, Ralph Napoli, Frank Simone, and a couple of Philly guys he was locked up with, one of them being Peter Casella. Papalia was extradited to New York in the 60s where he rubbed shoulders with a few Philadelphia members. Thanks man! That is some great information, I thought that it was a beef over gambling, seeing as Papalia had a huge stake in gambling in Ontario and Scarfo in AC and Volpe had run a foul of them both. So Papalia and Scarfo got the OK from Buffalo, as well as friends in NYC, to killed Volpe. I appreciate the insight!
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Re: The Philadelphia Crime Family circa 1954-1966
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Scarfo did not kill Volpe, but he is one of the mobsters that beefed about Volpe and was not the only one, both the Gambinos and Genovese families had beefs, Elisabeth does not get mentioned but Fat Louie had some sort of beef with Volpe. This got back to Buffalo who already had complaints from Canada long before Volpe moved to AC. The root of this is the Pieri's. Salvatore was one of Volpe protectors. When he died Joe Sr set the wheels in motion for Volpe to be killed. Scarfo never pulled the trigger or was involved in the hit. The Volpe Character sound just like that. A character..... the smaller Families like Pittsburgh isn't a strong point for me
"Joe Bananas went after Carlo Gambino, the war went on for seven years..... When guys go to the mattresses, they're not out earning" -Tony Soprano
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Re: The Philadelphia Crime Family circa 1954-1966
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The book was very informative. I was able to read the about the 1946-1959. It was helpful. Philly has an interesting history during that time, it should be explored more.
"Joe Bananas went after Carlo Gambino, the war went on for seven years..... When guys go to the mattresses, they're not out earning" -Tony Soprano
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Re: The Philadelphia Crime Family circa 1954-1966
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Anyone have info on Nicky Scrfo's uncle NICKY BUCK PICCOLO? What rackets was he involved in? How was his reputation in Philadelphia?
"Joe Bananas went after Carlo Gambino, the war went on for seven years..... When guys go to the mattresses, they're not out earning" -Tony Soprano
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Re: The Philadelphia Crime Family circa 1954-1966
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Do you have any idea where I may be able to find these books? Have heard about them and even looked for them online a few times with no luck. They are probably the only books on Philadelphia I have yet to read. Since Ive gotten them straight from the source (the author) i could not tell you...sorry. No problem hoodlum. Since I posted this I was able to find all 3 books online and they should be here Friday. Gonna take them up to the Poconos with me and enjoy the fresh air and some Philly mob history...should be a good weekend.
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Re: The Philadelphia Crime Family circa 1954-1966
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Do you have any idea where I may be able to find these books? Have heard about them and even looked for them online a few times with no luck. They are probably the only books on Philadelphia I have yet to read. Since Ive gotten them straight from the source (the author) i could not tell you...sorry. No problem hoodlum. Since I posted this I was able to find all 3 books online and they should be here Friday. Gonna take them up to the Poconos with me and enjoy the fresh air and some Philly mob history...should be a good weekend. My man Barracuda.......u know thats Frank Sindones nickname.....I hope u have a great time up there..always loved the Pocos....Rent a canoe w/ the family, maybe catch a fish...play hide & seek w/ ur grandchildren...if u have them...Live life dude....&...read the books!!!..& eat good!!
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Re: The Philadelphia Crime Family circa 1954-1966
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[/quote] My man Barracuda.......u know thats Frank Sindones nickname.....I hope u have a great time up there..always loved the Pocos....Rent a canoe w/ the family, maybe catch a fish...play hide & seek w/ ur grandchildren...if u have them...Live life dude....&...read the books!!!..& eat good!![/quote]
What was Frank Sindone's rackets and reputation in the streets?
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Re: The Philadelphia Crime Family circa 1954-1966
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[/quote] My man Barracuda.......u know thats Frank Sindones nickname.....I hope u have a great time up there..always loved the Pocos....Rent a canoe w/ the family, maybe catch a fish...play hide & seek w/ ur grandchildren...if u have them...Live life dude....&...read the books!!!..& eat good!! What was Frank Sindone's rackets and reputation in the streets?[/quote] Major shylock and gambling operator. Involved in floating crap games in the 1960s. Sponsored for membership first by Joseph Piccolo then by Angelo Bruno. Harry Riccobene and Ernest Perricone tried, unsuccessfully, to blackball him for membership. Used Chickie Ciancaglini as his main driver/ bodyguard and right-hand-man. Sponsored Ciancaglini for membership. Authorised Ciancaglini to give out loans in his absence. Had a numbers game with Phil Testa and another ran by Ciancaglini and associate Charles Warrington. Ciancaglini was also tasked with collecting money from a numbers game run by the Riccobenes. Sindone had wanted to retire to California in the late-70s and give an equal piece of his loan shark operation to Bruno and Testa but wasn't given permission to retire. Used Frank's Cabana Steaks as his headquarters and had Ciancaglini run it. Also had a piece of Cous' Little Italy. According to George Fresolone and Frank Friel, Sindone was a popular choice to take over the family following Bruno's murder. According to Nick Caramandi, Sindone was untrustworthy and had come up with a hit list that included Scarfo and Frank Narducci. When he was killed his operations were split up between Ciancaglini, Salvie Testa, Frank Monte and Chuckie Merlino
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Re: The Philadelphia Crime Family circa 1954-1966
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Thanks @Chin_Gigante You seem very knowledgeable about this crew. Can you help lay out the reputation and rackets of the Caporegimes of this Family during this time??? Or anyone's knowledge and opinions
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Re: The Philadelphia Crime Family circa 1954-1966
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Here's some of what I've got for Reginelli, Rugnetta and Denaro. I'll write up some more on other top ranking guys during the 1950s and 1960s if I get the time:
Marco Reginelli: - Underboss for Joseph Ida - The real power in the family behind Ida - Frequently identifies as the head of the 'Greaser Gang' - Main activities of the Greasers were numbers, liquor and betting on horse races, as well as seasonal gambling in football, baseball, basketball and boxing - Was partners with Angelo Bruno in Penn Jersey Vending Machine Company - Owned the Casablanca Night Club in Camden with Pasquale Massi - Had Louis Campbell oversee numbers and dice games in Camden
Joseph Rugnetta: - Served as a captain under Ida - Partner in South Philly Grill - Nephew and inducted member Domenic Rugnetta was a bartender at the Grill - Briefly became acting boss of the family when Ida fled - His conduct as acting boss made him enemies and the family held an election to replace him - Demoted to underboss when Pollina took over - Shifted to consigliere under Bruno and became head of the Calabrian faction - Still commanded a great deal of respect in the family - Exercised control over the family's operations in Chester as all members there were Calabrians - Rugnetta's first wife was the sister of the mother of the Piccolo brothers - Rugnetta financially helped the Piccolos when their father died - Rugnetta, Nicholas Piccolo and Joseph Sciglitano delayed an induction ceremony in 1969 because no Calabrian candidates had been proposed and they did not want to go to South Jersey for the ceremony - After he died, Phil Testa and Nicky Scarfo were caught on tape talking about how, rather than being a neutral mediator, as consigliere Rugnetta had held a grudge against Scarfo and tried to get him killed
Ignazio Denaro: - Served as a captain in the 1950s - Owner of the Internazionale Cafe - Involved in loan sharking and gambling - Told Bruno that Pollina wanted to cut his legs off, leading to Bruno becoming boss - Promoted to underboss under Bruno - Said to be the one in charge of the Sicilians while Rugnetta was in charge of the Calabrians - Got into a dispute with Bruno in the early 1960s and talked to Rugnetta about it, who advised him to sit down with Bruno - Instead, Denaro went over Bruno's head to Carlo Gambino - Denaro was then admonished for going over Bruno's head and told not to do it again - No-one had told Bruno to make Denaro underboss so he could take him down if he wanted without permission from the Commission - Bruno and Denaro once got into a heated argument over Denaro talking to FBI agents at his cafe - It was briefly feared that he would not be able to stand up under law enforcement pressure in the 1960s - Testa, Scarfo and Piccolo were in favour of hitting Denaro - Was still active in family affairs by 1969
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Re: The Philadelphia Crime Family circa 1954-1966
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@chin_gigante Interesting. Thanks. Can you do the Caporegime when you have an opportunity?
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Re: The Philadelphia Crime Family circa 1954-1966
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@chin_gigante You're a wealth of knowledge. Could you expand on member CHARLES "PINKY" COSTELLO if you know any more on him?
Also some members whose names get over looked CARL "PAPPY" IPPOLITTO, SANTO "CHESTER SAM" IDONE, RALPH "BLACKIE"NAPOLI and JOHN "JOHNNY KEYS" SIMONE, any info on them would be an interesting addition
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Re: The Philadelphia Crime Family circa 1954-1966
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Interesting.... a a few questions come to mind.
1.) Was Dominick Pollina still an active figure after Bruno was made official Boss?
2.) What rackets were Carl Ippolito, Blackie Napoli and Santo Idone in?
Can you expand into guys like HARRY RICCOBENE, TONY BANANAS CAPONIGRO and NICKY BUCK PICCOLO during this time?
And any info on these lesser known members: JOSEPH "JOE GIBBONS" LAZZARO, FRANCESCO "FRANK CARUSO" NICOLETTI and VINCENZO "UPSTATE JIMMY" AMATO???
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Re: The Philadelphia Crime Family circa 1954-1966
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Just some side info. The newark Nj faction was started by ( I think ) relatives of Angelo Bruno. They lived in Newark , the iron bound/ down neck section and had a few rackets going which prabably caused some issues with another crew which was likely the genovese. Since Bruno was a big shot in Philly and close to Carlo Gambino, a deal was probably made and they were given the ok to operate under the auspices of philly. Well JOHN "JOHNNY KEYS" SIMONE ran North Jersey operations and according to @chin_gigante, were distant cousins.
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Re: The Philadelphia Crime Family circa 1954-1966
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@chin_gigante Interesting.... a a few questions come to mind.
1.) Was Dominick Pollina still an active figure after Bruno was made official Boss?
2.) What rackets were Carl Ippolito, Blackie Napoli and Santo Idone in?
Can you expand into guys like HARRY RICCOBENE, TONY BANANAS CAPONIGRO and NICKY BUCK PICCOLO during this time?
And any info on these lesser known members: JOSEPH "JOE GIBBONS" LAZZARO, FRANCESCO "FRANK CARUSO" NICOLETTI and VINCENZO "UPSTATE JIMMY" AMATO???
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Re: The Philadelphia Crime Family circa 1954-1966
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This is by no means extensive and you can probably find out a lot more yourself through some creative searching on the Mary Ferrell database.
Pollina was still active somewhat after Bruno took over though he was somewhat ostracized and thought of as an annoyance. He attended Bruno's daughter's wedding in 1962. He lent money to Mickey Diamond and, when Diamond was killed, tried to collect it from Nick Caramandi. He caused a scene at Pat Spirito's clubhouse but Spirito could not do much as he had not been introduced to Pollina as a member. Joseph Ciancaglini had to come down and defuse the situation. Pollina apologised to Caramandi and left. Before he died in 1993 he gave an interview to Celeste Morello and told her he believed God was keeping him alive to torture him.
Riccobene was in prison during the period discussed in this thread for his heroin conviction. He had last been on the street in 1952 and started giving the FBI information while inside.
Carl Ippolito: - Born 1908 in Trenton - First arrested 1931 for a robbery - Other arrests included robbery, tax violations and operating an illicit still - Reported being self-employed with Arco-Rex Amusement Company - President of Trenton Vending Services Inc - A crap game run by Ippolito for Bruno closed in 1959 after only one week due to lack of business - In 1962, Ippolito told Bruno he had obtained 350 sheets paper that could be easily destroyed for use in a numbers office - A "Tony Pinto" from New York turned in $50,000 to $60,000 anually in numbers bets to Ippolito for John Simone - Ippolito also received edge-off bets from a man identified as "Sailor" from NJ - Bruno contemplated telling Ippolito to use Michael Tramantana and Frank Pollastrelli to assault an employee who was stealing from Maggio Cheese - The FBI passed this information on to the police and the assault never happened - Bruno at one point praised Ippolito as an efficient hijacker - Had a share of a craps game in the 1970s along with Phil Testa, Frank Narducci, Frank Sindone and Charles Warrington - Ippolito and Warrington also had a craps game in Andalusia, PA - Headed gambling operations in Bucks County until they were passed to Albert Pontani - Charged with racketeering 1981 but ruled unfit to stand trial - Died 1985
Santo Idone: - Born 1920 in Bagnara, Calabria - Arrived in US 1936 and lived in Fort Lee, NJ - Joined the army 1942 and became a citizen - Discharged 1946 and moved to Chester - Promoted to captain after Joseph Rugnetta's death - Santo Romeo, Domenic Rugnetta, Joseph Scalleat and Antonino Sciglitano were under Idone - Got involved in bookmaking in the 1960s - Ran bookmaking and video poker in Chester and elsewhere in Delaware County - Also involved in loan sharking and extortion - Got involved in video poker in the early 1980s - Split his time between Pennsylvania and Florida - Supported Nicky Scarfo to become boss on the condition that he got along better with the Piccolos - Scarfo gave Idone the contract on Riccobene associate Thomas Auferio - It was believed that Auferio had fled to Hazleton, so Joseph Scalleat was tasked with tracking him down - Scalleat never managed to find Auferio - Mediated a dispute between the Gambino and Philadelphia families over video poker - Alfonso Sanbe tried to install poker machines in locations owned by Idone associates - After being the target of attempted assaults, Sanbe went to the Gambinos and Louie Milito was sent to negotiate on his behalf - Sanbe stopped stepping on toes and Idone called off the assaults - Sentenced to 20 years for racketeering 1990 - Released 1998 and died 2005
Ralph Napoli: - Gambler and loan shark from North Jersey - Arrests for bookmaking and assault - Sent to Yardville 1971 for refusing to answer questions from the State Commission of Investigation - Assumed some of Caponigro's operations when he was killed - Arrested 1985 in a raid where 400 video poker machines were confiscated - Charged in a 1990 NJ case with racketeering and gambling - Died 2003
Antonio Caponigro: - In the 1950s was cooperating with Frank Carbo in controlling boxing - Caponigro's cousin (future member) Anthony Ferrante was manager for middleweight Joey Giardello and was said to be increasingly bold with other managers - Identified as having inherited the production of illicit alcohol after Marco Reginelli died - Harold Konigsberg believed that Caponigro had about 10 to 12 made guys under him in the 1960s - One source said the guys under Caponigro fight for the best jobs because he treats them so well - Because Caponigro was in charge of operations in Newark, some sources falsely believed he was a captain in the 1960s - Sam DeCavalcante was caught on tape discussing Caponigro, saying he had more class than Bruno or anyone else in Philadelphia - DeCavalcante, Louis Larasso and Frank Majuri all agreed that Bruno should have made Caponigro a captain - Caponigro was a little hurt that he was still under John Simone - In 1958 he was already quoted as considering killing Bruno because he perceived Bruno as coming up too fast - Took over some numbers businesses from Jewish racketeers after Longy Zwillman died - Got into a beef with Ruggiero Boiardo in the 1960s over a monte game - Caponigro generally stayed in Down Neck to avoid getting in the way of Boiardo in the First Ward - Took over Anthony Veniero's gambling operations - Owned the 311 Club
Nicholas Piccolo: - Ran Piccolo's 500 before it became Cous' Little Italy - Inducted about 5 years before Scarfo and the rest of the Piccolos - Involved in numbers with his brother Joseph - Nicky Scarfo worked for the Piccolo numbers operation but quit in 1962 - Considered to succeed Joe Rugnetta as consigliere - Eventually became consigliere after Frank Monte but was already getting senile - Died 1989
Charles Costello: - Born 1910 - Brother of Joseph Costello, who died in the 1960s - Cousin of Angelo Bruno (not first cousin) - Arrested for attempted extortion, conspiracy to violate tax laws and receiving stolen goods - Convicted on a 1931 extortion charge and received six months in jail - Prior to 1941 worked as a car salesman - Reputation as a gambler - Split his time between Trenton and Miami - President of JC Vending Machine Inc - JC Vending reported gross sales revenue of $400,000 per year in 1960 - Arrested 1969 for running numbers out of JC Vending - Second wife Madeline Kelley was formerly the secretary and treasurer of JC Vending - Divorced first wife Julia and married Madeline Kelley 1960 - Julia was the mother of Costello's son and inducted member Joseph J Costello - Joseph J Costello shot and killed Frank Matthews at JC Vending 1961 - Matthews was a small time hoodlum with no known connections to the Costellos - Matthews had entered JC Vending looking for Charles - Joseph feared Matthews was attempting a holdup - A struggle then ensued as Joseph tried to get Matthews off the premises - Joseph shot Matthews in the head and he died almost instantly - Charles flew up from Miami to get his son released on bail - Joseph pled guilty to a weapons offence and received a suspended sentence - Joseph was identified as a member by May 1965 - Joseph was believed to be involved in financing narcotics operations - Arrested with his brother Charles Jr for running numbers out of a social club 1979 - Had connections to African-American numbers operations in Trenton - Charles Sr entered semi-retirement after the murder of Bruno - Charles Sr died 1994 and Joseph died 2007
Michael Tramantana: - Arrests include robbery and tax violations - Known as a hijacker and bootlegger during Prohibition - Once charged with murder and fled to South America - Operated a mine in Bolivia - Operated Eton Cleaners in Trenton
All I know about Vincenzo Amato is that Riccobene believed he was either under Joseph Rugnetta in 1952 or reporting direct to Marco Reginelli. His fingerprints were also checked in connection with the 1954 murder of Marshall Veneziale but came back negative.
Joseph Lazzaro was at Dante's Restaurant with Frank Narducci and got into an argument with Joseph Malito, who was a friend of Bruno's, in 1964. Malito was later murdered but it was believed he was killed by the husband of a woman he was seeing. Lazzaro worked at a ziganette game run by Albert Esposito.
Frank Nicoletti was born 1897 in mainland Italy. Came to New York 1921 and became a citizen 1928. Was aligned with the Lanzetti gang before coming in under LCN. Served in the army. Involved in numbers and worked as a loan shark for Pollina and Denaro. Also identified as a bagman. Joseph Sadia spread rumours that Nicoletti's wife was having an affair with former boss Salvatore Sabella. Bruno and Testa killed Sadia while Nicoletti drove the getaway car. Nicoletti and his brother Leonard were inducted 1952. Invested in a London casino along with other members of the family in the 1960s. Sometimes referred to as the treasurer of the family under Bruno. Died 1990.
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Re: The Philadelphia Crime Family circa 1954-1966
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Does anybody know who and when the drugs came into the picture with this Family?
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Re: The Philadelphia Crime Family circa 1954-1966
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How about Unions? Did Philly have any during Bruno's time?
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Re: The Philadelphia Crime Family circa 1954-1966
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Now if we can just get the legitimate businesses together, we'll have a decent look at this Borgota during this time.
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Re: The Philadelphia Crime Family circa 1954-1966
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Did Philly have guys operating in NY? And what were if any, Bruno's rackets or business interests outside of Philadelphia?
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Where did the Philly Family rank in Nj presence compared to the other Families? And were they in any way stronger then the Decavalcantes?
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Did Philly have guys operating in NY? And what were if any, Bruno's rackets or business interests outside of Philadelphia? In the 1970s, Antonio Caponigro backed a monte game in the Bronx in the back of a garage on 181st Street run by Joseph Licata. Licata was also in charge of Caponigro's shylock money to drug dealers who played in the monte game as well as six-figure loans to guys from the garment district. The monte game moved to Mulberry Street in the late-1970s and partnered with a couple of Gambino captains. Businessmen, artists, wiseguys and drug dealers would bet at the game. Caponigro's brother-in-law Alfred Salerno owned a jewellery booth in the diamond district in Manhattan. In the 1980s, George Fresolone briefly moved the wire room for his bookmaking operation to an apartment in Manhattan and then to Queens until they got busted. Joseph Sodano was partners with the Gambino family in some gambling business in New York and had connections to Frank LoCascio and John Gotti. John Praino was a high-stakes Bronx bookmaker who came to the North Jersey crew of the Philadelphia family for protection from the other families. Praino just wanted to be left alone and had to be talked into being straightened out in 1990.
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Re: The Philadelphia Crime Family circa 1954-1966
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Where did the Philly Family rank in Nj presence compared to the other Families? And were they in any way stronger then the Decavalcantes? Fresolone believed that Caponigro's New Jersey operation in the 1970s was more powerful than the DeCavalcantes or any of the Jersey crews of the New York families (and this was before Caponigro was made consigliere). Fresolone said Caponigro's power stemmed from the money he made, the number of guys under him and his willingness to participate in murder.
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Did Philly have any rackets or members in Florida? And did they have specific members who operated in New York?
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They had legitimate business in New York City and Florida. Florida some of the members had a second house and maintained a trusted associate or two down there. They supposedly had a made member there in eastern Florida, who was once part of the Lanzetti gang in Philadelphia, but made peace with Joe Bruno after the convictions of the top members in 1940, through Joe Ida. The guys name is unknown, and was involved in gambling, cigarette machines, owned a restraunt, and boat repair shop. Direct with Joe Ida, served Angelo Bruno, retired in the late 1960s, and passed away sometime in the 1970s. Bruno had an aluminum company down there, and a second home in the Miami area. Nicky Scarfo had a home in Ft. Lauderdale, and Joey Merlino lives in Boca Raton.
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How was Philadelphia comparable to The Bufalinos? How did Angelo Bruno stack up to Russell Bufalino?
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Good observation. Generally until recently, guys like Bufalino ( Patriarca, Marcello etc) have been seen as second Bananas to the NY bosses and the full extent of their power not fully examined or understood.
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In my opinion, Philly was an overrated Family, and I mean that with all due respect, but I think because its a major city, the impression is that it was a powerhouse crew. And I'm saying this in comparison to the other east coast Families. With that being said, this is a hypothetical question but What does everyone think of Philly and The Decavalcante's as one group? I think we would be talking about a powerful regime. Who do you think would've been Boss? Bruno or Sam the Plumber?
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Re: The Philadelphia Crime Family circa 1954-1966
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In my opinion, Philly was an overrated Family, and I mean that with all due respect, but I think because its a major city, the impression is that it was a powerhouse crew. And I'm saying this in comparison to the other east coast Families. With that being said, this is a hypothetical question but What does everyone think of Philly and The Decavalcante's as one group? I think we would be talking about a powerful regime. Who do you think would've been Boss? Bruno or Sam the Plumber?
Bruno had Carlo's support. That made him and his borgata untouchables. The answer to your question about Sam the Plumber, is whom he had allegiance with. I always assumed he was with the Genoveses, but some folks claim he was pretty much independent. As someone said earlier at this thread, Tony Bananas had big operation in Jersey. Funzi wanted to get it. It was a great move: Caponigro is made believe he has Frank's ok, Bruno is dead and AC is there waiting someone just to grab it. Frank has a legit reason to get rid of Tony B, kills him and takes over rackets in Jersey. All that was the beginning of the end for Philly crew and big win for the Genoveses.
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Re: The Philadelphia Crime Family circa 1954-1966
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I always said, in my opinion, one of the biggest "mafia what-ifs" is: What if Philly and Jersey had been one Family??? Who would've lead Bruno or Sam The Plumber?? How powerful could that have been???
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Re: The Philadelphia Crime Family circa 1954-1966
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I just listened to a podcast about a guy operating in Jonestown, Pa named Russell Shorto who was supposedly connected to a philly guy named "Little Joe". Does anybody have knowledge of these guys, Ive never heard of them. I thought maybe this "Shorto" was with the Bufalinos but I couldn't find anything, maybe one of our philly guys know about this Little Joe?
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I just listened to a podcast about a guy operating in Jonestown, Pa named Russell Shorto who was supposedly connected to a philly guy named "Little Joe". Does anybody have knowledge of these guys, Ive never heard of them. I thought maybe this "Shorto" was with the Bufalinos but I couldn't find anything, maybe one of our philly guys know about this Little Joe?
Id bet money little Joe is Joe Scalleat he was a philly fam soldier out of Hazleton which isnt far from Jonestown..its odd he was w Philly since Hazleton is most definitely Buffalino turf and Russ’s house was like 30 min outside Hazleton
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Maybe Friend Of Henry knows of the Pittsburgh connection for this Russell Shorto? Apparently he had pinball machines
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I just listened to a podcast about a guy operating in Jonestown, Pa named Russell Shorto who was supposedly connected to a philly guy named "Little Joe". Does anybody have knowledge of these guys, Ive never heard of them. I thought maybe this "Shorto" was with the Bufalinos but I couldn't find anything, maybe one of our philly guys know about this Little Joe?
Joseph Regino. He was actually with Pittsburgh family and a close confidant of LaRocca. He ran Johnstown and surrounding areas. Big in the gambling scene. His strongest and one of his key associates who was an enforcer was Samual Fascionatta. I believe both died in the 1980s around the same time of each other. They did business with Bufalino and Philadelphia guys in the gambling scene. Friend of Henry's I think has more information on him and the guys he was around. I think he was a capo of 3 to 4 soldiers.
I just listened to a podcast about a guy operating in Jonestown, Pa named Russell Shorto who was supposedly connected to a philly guy named "Little Joe". Does anybody have knowledge of these guys, Ive never heard of them. I thought maybe this "Shorto" was with the Bufalinos but I couldn't find anything, maybe one of our philly guys know about this Little Joe?
Joseph Regino. He was actually with Pittsburgh family and a close confidant of LaRocca. He ran Johnstown and surrounding areas. Big in the gambling scene. His strongest and one of his key associates who was an enforcer was Samual Fascionatta. I believe both died in the 1980s around the same time of each other. They did business with Bufalino and Philadelphia guys in the gambling scene. Friend of Henry's I think has more information on him and the guys he was around. I think he was a capo of 3 to 4 soldiers. Hes talking about Jonestown which in eastern pa not far from reading.. johnstown is outside Shittsburgh theres no way this Little Joe is Philly soldier and any farther west than Harrisburg.. im telling u its Joe Scalleat from Hazleton
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