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Pentangeli Meeting with Rosarto Brothers. #994847
07/31/20 08:34 PM
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Sticking with the Pentangeli meeting with the Rosarto Brothers. Its my understanding that Pentangeli took over Clemenza's spot upon his demise (that was no heart attack). I would think that for a person to be elevated like that. They should be well experienced in the "life". With this being said. Why did Pentangeli tell his body guard Willie Cici to wait outside? He knew that the Rosarto brothers were bitter rivals. What caused this lapse of security? Especially with the meeting beginning with him be insulted with the C note?


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Re: Pentangeli Meeting with Rosarto Brothers. [Re: johnny ola] #994871
07/31/20 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by johnny ola
Why did Pentangeli tell his body guard Willie Cici to wait outside? He knew that the Rosarto brothers were bitter rivals. What caused this lapse of security? Especially with the meeting beginning with him be insulted with the C note?

Two reasons:
--He was being macho--trying to prove to the Rosatos that he wasn't afraid of them. And, they said to him, "I got nobody inside," which might have made Frankie look weak if he brought Cicci inside with him.
--It helped FFC set up the garotting scene--if Cicci were inside, they'd have had to kill him, too, which would have taken the focus away from Frankie and the cop coming in at the last second.


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Re: Pentangeli Meeting with Rosarto Brothers. [Re: Turnbull] #994876
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Originally Posted by Turnbull
Originally Posted by johnny ola
Why did Pentangeli tell his body guard Willie Cici to wait outside? He knew that the Rosarto brothers were bitter rivals. What caused this lapse of security? Especially with the meeting beginning with him be insulted with the C note?

Two reasons:
--He was being macho--trying to prove to the Rosatos that he wasn't afraid of them. And, they said to him, "I got nobody inside," which might have made Frankie look weak if he brought Cicci inside with him.
--It helped FFC set up the garotting scene--if Cicci were inside, they'd have had to kill him, too, which would have taken the focus away from Frankie and the cop coming in at the last second.





I agree with everything you stated. It definitely was necessary for him to go in the bar alone to maintain the storyline. Just seemed out of character for the head of family. You never saw Mike without Neri being close by.


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Re: Pentangeli Meeting with Rosarto Brothers. [Re: Turnbull] #995047
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Originally Posted by Turnbull
Originally Posted by johnny ola
Why did Pentangeli tell his body guard Willie Cici to wait outside? He knew that the Rosarto brothers were bitter rivals. What caused this lapse of security? Especially with the meeting beginning with him be insulted with the C note?

Two reasons:
--He was being macho--trying to prove to the Rosatos that he wasn't afraid of them. And, they said to him, "I got nobody inside," which might have made Frankie look weak if he brought Cicci inside with him.
--It helped FFC set up the garotting scene--if Cicci were inside, they'd have had to kill him, too, which would have taken the focus away from Frankie and the cop coming in at the last second.





A little off the subject, but I don't understand why Profaci wasn't able to take out Gallo after Gallo kidnapped some of Profaci's people (Profaci did manage to murder several of Gallo's crew and almost his brother). However, I guess it's not that easy sometimes. For example, Costello didn't take out Genovese and Castellano didn't take out Gotti (although he was able to take out DeMeo).


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Re: Pentangeli Meeting with Rosarto Brothers. [Re: johnny ola] #995203
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Originally Posted by johnny ola
Originally Posted by Turnbull
Originally Posted by johnny ola
Why did Pentangeli tell his body guard Willie Cici to wait outside? He knew that the Rosarto brothers were bitter rivals. What caused this lapse of security? Especially with the meeting beginning with him be insulted with the C note?

Two reasons:
--He was being macho--trying to prove to the Rosatos that he wasn't afraid of them. And, they said to him, "I got nobody inside," which might have made Frankie look weak if he brought Cicci inside with him.
--It helped FFC set up the garotting scene--if Cicci were inside, they'd have had to kill him, too, which would have taken the focus away from Frankie and the cop coming in at the last second.

I agree with everything you stated. It definitely was necessary for him to go in the bar alone to maintain the storyline. Just seemed out of character for the head of family. You never saw Mike without Neri being close by.
The two times, Neri was not close by Mike, dire consequences Dreadful indeed

1. 'abortion' Hotel Washington – Michael lost his wife [Rocco was no Neri]
2. Opera, Sicily – Michael's daughter got killed [Vincent was no Neri]


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