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Re: Did anyone else notice that ....... [Re: Montauk] #984776
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Originally Posted by Montauk
The acting by everyone in that scene was golden.

Yes, indeed.

Speaking of Tom's stares, he looks absolutely disgusted when Moe Green blows into Michael's hotel room.


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Where were Connie's children? Were they living at the Tahoe compound ie: Connie just left her children with Mama Corleone after Carlo's death

At Anthony's party -
Mama to Connie “You go see your children first”
Michael to Connie: “You see your children on weekends”

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Good question! smile

I inferred from the way Connie breezed into the First Communion party scene ("I'm only a week late") that she and her kids didn't live on the Tahoe compound. Later, at Mama's wake, Connie, on her knees, tells Michael, "I'd like to stay close to home now if it's alright." She also says that she wants to "take care" of Michael. That tells me she moved onto the Tahoe compound, presumably with her kids, after that.


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Originally Posted by Evita
So Michael's what do you want? was not answering Merle asking if he could have a drink but it was what did Connie want from him

No wonder he never got his drink!


Same as Ola never got his Anisette drink

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Originally Posted by Turnbull
Good question! smile

I inferred from the way Connie breezed into the First Communion party scene ("I'm only a week late") that she and her kids didn't live on the Tahoe compound. Later, at Mama's wake, Connie, on her knees, tells Michael, "I'd like to stay close to home now if it's alright." She also says that she wants to "take care" of Michael. That tells me she moved onto the Tahoe compound, presumably with her kids, after that.
Thanks Turnbull

Connie breezed into Anthony's party, with Merle but no kids

It seems the children were either living or already at Tahoe compound Hence Mama's “You go see your children first”

Even when Connie is not flying around the world with free loading men, she only sees her children on weekends ie: it seems Connie's children were not living with Connie

However we do see Connie coming to Mama's wake with her children, who, from memory, were never seen again!

Where were Connie's children living until Connie “moved onto the Tahoe compound” after Mama's death

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Originally Posted by Lana


Connie breezed into Anthony's party, with Merle but no kids

It seems the children were either living or already at Tahoe compound Hence Mama's “You go see your children first”

Even when Connie is not flying around the world with free loading men, she only sees her children on weekends ie: it seems Connie's children were not living with Connie


Reasonable and insightful inference, Lana.

In the boathouse, with Merle, Michael tells Connie: "Your oldest son, Victor, was picked up for some petty theft that you know nothing about." That indicates that Victor either was not living with Connie, or that he was, but Connie wasn't around when he was arrested. Who knows? Also, Connie was carrying Victor when Carlo beat her the first time. That'd be 1946. But, Michael Francis Rizzi was baptized in 1955. Nine year gap between kids in an Italian family of that era?

Keeping track of family members is part of the fun (or challenge) of being on this board. As I've posted before: A marvelous deleted scene from Anthony's party, in which Gardner Shaw asks permission from Michael to marry Sonny's daughter Francesca, ends with Michael telling Tom, "Make sure her dowry's big--these people think Italian brides go barefoot." But, the same scene as shown on cable TV in the Saga version has an additional ten seconds at the end. Michael turns to a hulking young man in a plaid sport coat and says, "How's the football, Santino?" "Fine, Uncle Michael," he replies. That'd be Sonny's (probably) oldest son. His (probably) second son, Frank, was the one who presented Vito with a hand-written card when he returned from the hospital. But, again, who knows for sure which one was oldest?


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No kidding! Turnbull and we thought the timelines was challenging!

Here's a thought Connie didn't want to disappoint Michael So after giving Merle the flick and no passage on The Queen Connie took her children with her

"Nine year gap between kids" Carlo was busy elsewhere!

As for Sonny's kids, wouldn't Santino [Junior] be the oldest though

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Michael Franzese recently did a YouTube video where he reviews scenes from mob movies and rated them on a scale of 0-5 based on how realistic he deems them to be. One of the scenes was the Moe Greene and Michael Corleone scene and he rated it a 0/5 because he said that nobody would get away with disrespecting a boss that badly. He also said that Hagen being the consigliere would never happen.

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The Hotel Washington scene – the way Michael sat on the sofa, crossed his leg, unbuttoned his vest, snaked his hand on the back of the sofa, pursed his lips and stared fixedly at Kay was unnerving, unsettling but Kay was blind!

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It was frightening the way Michael's eyes were bulging, his lips quivering in fury during Kay's unholy and evil abortion outburst

What's with it's over now no way you could ever forgive me?

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Kay was twisting the knife and needling Michael for a heated argument

Say what?! Kay says “I know now that it's over I knew it then There would be no way Michael no way you could ever forgive me. Not with this Sicilian thing that's been going on for 2000 years"

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When Michael was walking towards Fredo for his you broke my heart, a woman was trying to kiss him Happy New Year but he kept going focused

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Maybe this has been discussed before, someone mentioned it on a Reddit board: when Fredo is ranting at Michael in the boathouse, Fredo's right hand forms into a little gun and makes an execution movement. It's at about 2:20 here:



Quick cut to Pacino for one of Michael's passive reactions.

I'm getting a playback error on the video, but here's the link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0Os0Q9SA2k&t=154s


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No Pete, I don't see that. I think that Cazale played Fredo as almost spasmodic in that scene.


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I thought that was Cazale's best scene in GFII.


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10 movies that are better than the book
nine.com.au by 9Honey Celebrity with Variety|19 June 2020

Sure thing Nothing that we don't already know!

The Godfather (1972) Item 4
Mario Puzo's 1969 novel is a perfectly serviceable gangster potboiler that provides enough soapy intrigue and wanton violence to distract readers from its pedestrian writing and overlong tangents

Francis Ford Coppola's epic film adaptation pulls off the tricky task of streamlining the story while simultaneously expanding its themes.
Where Puzo's book is an enjoyably ham-fisted melodrama, the Oscar-winning The Godfather remains one of American cinema's crowning achievements

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millions sold before the movie more after

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Near the beginning of III, when Kay waits in Michael's office at his party to plead Anthony's case, she visibly shudders when Michael enters the room. I think that was Keaton's best scene in the Trilogy.


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Originally Posted by Turnbull
Near the beginning of III, when Kay waits in Michael's office at his party to plead Anthony's case, she visibly shudders when Michael enters the room. I think that was Keaton's best scene in the Trilogy.


TB, I'll go you one better in that regard.

When Michael approaches her during the party and he has two plates of cake, Kay is looking at the pictures of her life with him seemingly so long ago. When he says hello to her, she turns toward him with a quite visible start that screams dread. He then moves a little closer and she backs away from him. Definitely fear and dread,

Superb acting.



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Something new to look for indeed

I feel another Diane Keaton's good acting scene - how Kay seemed to be imploring Michael to 'deny' Michael had anything to do with Carlo's death

Kay seemingly whimpering...“Michael, is it true? Is it true? Is it true? -- Is it?”
Then after Michael told Kay what Kay wanted to hear! – “No” - Kay's relief

What is your take of Keaton's acting in the Hotel Washington scene?

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not great She was overshadowed by Pacino

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Originally Posted by Lana

What is your take of Keaton's acting in the Hotel Washington scene?

It was the first time in GF and II that Kay actually showed some spunk and an attempt to stand up to her lying, manipulative husband. Keaton was very good in that scene. But, Kay folded as soon as Michael said that her plan to take the kids was "an impossibility...don't you know that I 'd use all my power..." etc.


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Originally Posted by Capri
not great She was overshadowed by Pacino
Al Pacino was phenomenal in the Hotel Washington abortion scene indeed

The tempestuous changes in Michael's demeanour from the moment Kay said “The children are outside We are going” was terrifying! to watch

Michael's eyes blazing with fury travelling up and down Kay's stomach where the 'son' had been, lower lip quivering, finally losing control and slapping Kay

Pacino would have outshone even Marlon Brando

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Originally Posted by Turnbull
Originally Posted by Lana

What is your take of Keaton's acting in the Hotel Washington scene?

It was the first time in GF and II that Kay actually showed some spunk and an attempt to stand up to her lying, manipulative husband. Keaton was very good in that scene. But, Kay folded as soon as Michael said that her plan to take the kids was "an impossibility...don't you know that I 'd use all my power..." etc.
I think you are being too harsh! on Michael

Whilst Michael became evil, ruthless, murderous crime boss same as his father [Kill or be killed in their business] I don't believe Michael was “lying, manipulative husband” to Kay

All of us know Michael here When did Michael ever lie? except one time okay two times

  • Carlo's death
Michael told Kay what Kay wanted to hear! – “No”

  • Frankie and Vincenzo Pentangeli
After the Senate hearing, Frankie's brother Vincenzo “came and helped”
Michael: “It was between the brothers Kay I had nothing to do with it”

Kay didn't seem happy! that Michael was “too smart to let any of them beat him”

My take, for what it is worth!
As regards “Kay actually showed some spunk and an attempt to stand up to” Michael -

  • Carlo's death
It seems to me “Kay folded” after Michael's angry “enough!” slamming the table and pushing some stuff off

Kay looked down and said nothing until Michael's “Alright This one time -- this one time I'll let you ask me about my affairs”

  • Hotel Washington abortion
It seems to me Kay did not fold Kay was spunky right up to the end “I will [take the children] They're my children too” Futile though

I feel, Kay was among others, somewhat foolish to tell Michael “It was an abortion” after “Michael said that her plan to take the kids was "an impossibility...don't you know that I'd use all my power..." etc.” as if that would make “her plan” possible

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she was leaving with or without children

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She was his lying, manipulative wife

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Fredo and Michael had the decency and sensitivity -

1. Fredo waited until Greene exited before his angry outburst at Michael
2. Michael sent Neri and Rocco out of the Desert Inn room before discussing Fredo with Tom

The way Kay sprung such a personal and private “children are outside we're going” on Michael in front of 'hired help' whether they be Neri or Rocco, was in extreme poor taste

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