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Vincenzo Armeni; the Armeni crime group (Montreal) #898617
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Armeni has been denied parole.

"Parole denied to mafioso who collected rent from Montreal police"

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...ontreal-police/

Older article from 2013 that provides context:

"From 2013 archives: Police anti-gang unit in space owned by convicted drug trafficker"

http://montrealgazette.com/news/from-201...rug-trafficker/

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Anti, any idea how they are related?

Locale di Montreal(Capeggiato dal Calabrese Dominik Armeni)


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Originally Posted By: Hollander
Anti, any idea how they are related?

Locale di Montreal(Capeggiato dal Calabrese Dominik Armeni)


I've never trusted that Wikipedia article.

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They've always intrigued me as a group. I wonder what their dynamic is in terms of positioning within the Montreal crime scene.

Clearly they were or still are bringing in serious quantities of blow. Their Calabrian roots may mean something or not. Maybe their just big traffickers who paid a cut and wholesaled?

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Originally Posted By: eurodave
They've always intrigued me as a group. I wonder what their dynamic is in terms of positioning within the Montreal crime scene.

Clearly they were or still are bringing in serious quantities of blow. Their Calabrian roots may mean something or not. Maybe their just big traffickers who paid a cut and wholesaled?



One of the killed dissidents Tony Callocchia was related by marriage to them, so they could be in that camp.


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Vincenzo Armeni's ex-wife and Callocchia's wife are sisters. Armeni was close to Agostino Cun-trera.

Callocchia may have been a dissident, but we don't know which group targeted him. The Armenis appeared to have cordial relations with the Rizzutos.

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Originally Posted By: antimafia
Vincenzo Armeni's ex-wife and Callocchia's wife are sisters. Armeni was close to Agostino Cun-trera.

Callocchia may have been a dissident, but we don't know which group targeted him. The Armenis appeared to have cordial relations with the Rizzutos.


Good point, last year Giuseppe Armeni had for example his funeral service in the Rizzuto-owned Complexe Loreto.

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But wasn't De Vito or someone we thought was "against" the Rizzuto's funeral was at Loreto? Or am I thinking of someone else? Maybe it was the picture of that plaque in the basement or wherever it was?

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Originally Posted By: dixiemafia
But wasn't De Vito or someone we thought was "against" the Rizzuto's funeral was at Loreto? Or am I thinking of someone else? Maybe it was the picture of that plaque in the basement or wherever it was?


Yes, two deceased individuals who were considered to be in an anti-Rizzuto camp--there was more than one camp--had their funeral-home vistation at the Loreto: Lorenzo Lo Presti and Giuseppe De Vito.

Emiilio Cordileone, who some journalists figured was also in an anti-Rizzuto camp because the Cordileones were close to Jos Di Maulo, also had his funeral-home visitation at the Loreto.

Cordileone's name and De Vito's name can be seen in the photo in the Evernote item to which I've linked below.

https://www.evernote.com/shard/s229/sh/9...f999ebb11aa40b0

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http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...ns-un-piege.php

According to this news article, Callocchia was a Rizzuto ally. He was not a dissident.

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Originally Posted By: Ciment
http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...ns-un-piege.php

According to this news article, Callocchia was a Rizzuto ally. He was not a dissident.


Interesting, I read somewhere else he was. But I go with Renaud, so he's another Calabrian who was still loyal to Vito. But who knows what happened after Vito died.


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Surprisingly, in the same article, it mentions that he remained close to the ruling members that replaced Vito after his death.

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Originally Posted By: Ciment
Surprisingly, in the same article, it mentions that he remained close to the ruling members that replaced Vito after his death.


But maybe something happened and the table decided he had to go.


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There was another theory thrown out there that Callocchia tried to move in on De Vito's territory after his death.

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Originally Posted By: Ciment
http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...ns-un-piege.php

According to this news article, Callocchia was a Rizzuto ally. He was not a dissident.


Ciment, I think Hollander had Adrian Humphreys's December 2, 2014 article in mind when referring to Callocchia as a dissident--the link to the article is below.

http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada...zzuto-documents

I am aware, as are you, how journalists have changed their mind about who in the Montreal mob war is or was aligned with whom. Renaud's later assessment of Callocchia as a possible "godfather" candidate was far different from the original assessment. It's enough to make your head explode.

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Originally Posted By: eurodave
They've always intrigued me as a group. I wonder what their dynamic is in terms of positioning within the Montreal crime scene.

Clearly they were or still are bringing in serious quantities of blow. Their Calabrian roots may mean something or not. Maybe their just big traffickers who paid a cut and wholesaled?



The uncle Joe Armeni was a member of the Cotroni mob. Any idea what part of Calabria they came from?

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Yes I was aware of this article, and I agree with you that sometimes these journalists are mind blowing with their contradictory assessments.
I made myself a chronology of events such as murders,attempted killings, firebombings, meetings and so forth and I tried to categorize on who's side of a clan at the time of the event(s) the person that got murdered for example was on. I must admit I had problems determining what side Callocchia was on. What made it possible for me to reach that conclusion,was the Marco Pizzi attempted murder. Pizzi was a Callocchia associate, the Campellone's have close ties to the DeVito clan and Kevin Rochebrun who was charged for attempted murder of M.Pizzi has ties with the Campellone family fruit business.

This is why I like this site, everyone offers their opinions & findings and from there your able to solve some pieces of the puzzle.
I don't have to explain to you how difficult it is to find out what is going on with the Montreal mafia;when you have members changing loyalty to another clan and others like Colapelle spying for the other clan and Gallo allying with Montagna instead of the Desjardins/Mirarchi clan.There are times I find that the police and journalists are having difficulties comprehending what is going on, that is why I keep an open mind to different theories. You can't always go by places of origin because you have betrayal in the Sicilian clan and in the Calabrian clan.
I think some of the Montreal mafia members were forced to choose sides on the spot and this was very difficult for them because they had allies on both sides of the fence.

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Originally Posted By: antimafia
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But wasn't De Vito or someone we thought was "against" the Rizzuto's funeral was at Loreto? Or am I thinking of someone else? Maybe it was the picture of that plaque in the basement or wherever it was?


Yes, two deceased individuals who were considered to be in an anti-Rizzuto camp--there was more than one camp--had their funeral-home vistation at the Loreto: Lorenzo Lo Presti and Giuseppe De Vito.

Emiilio Cordileone, who some journalists figured was also in an anti-Rizzuto camp because the Cordileones were close to Jos Di Maulo, also had his funeral-home visitation at the Loreto.

Cordileone's name and De Vito's name can be seen in the photo in the Evernote item to which I've linked below.

https://www.evernote.com/shard/s229/sh/9...f999ebb11aa40b0

The copyright to the photo is mine. Please feel free to save the photo and share it through private communication; however, please refrain from disseminating the picture on the Net.




Anti, I wonder if the list has been updated?

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But wasn't De Vito or someone we thought was "against" the Rizzuto's funeral was at Loreto? Or am I thinking of someone else? Maybe it was the picture of that plaque in the basement or wherever it was?


Yes, two deceased individuals who were considered to be in an anti-Rizzuto camp--there was more than one camp--had their funeral-home vistation at the Loreto: Lorenzo Lo Presti and Giuseppe De Vito.

Emiilio Cordileone, who some journalists figured was also in an anti-Rizzuto camp because the Cordileones were close to Jos Di Maulo, also had his funeral-home visitation at the Loreto.

Cordileone's name and De Vito's name can be seen in the photo in the Evernote item to which I've linked below.

https://www.evernote.com/shard/s229/sh/9...f999ebb11aa40b0

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Anti, I wonder if the list has been updated?


The funeral home seemed to have been producing one of these framed lists every year for a number of years. Each year, the list had included those decedents who, from November 1 of the previous year to October 31 of the current year, had either died or had their visitation at the funeral home--I'm not sure of the criteria for inclusion on the list. The start date was not randomly chosen--in a number of Christian denominations in the Western Christian tradition, November 1 is All Saints' Day.

I'm afraid I have no idea whether in the last few years this list has been produced. The Loreto may be more discreet these days, as evidenced by the revamped website that no longer allows you to search for older obituaries--at one time, everyone was able to search for obituaries going back to November 1, 2008.

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Mob-tied drug trafficker Vincenzo Armeni to be released on parole

https://montrealgazette.com/news/mob-tied-drug-trafficker-vincenzo-armeni-to-be-released-on-parole

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Originally Posted by antimafia
Mob-tied drug trafficker Vincenzo Armeni to be released on parole

https://montrealgazette.com/news/mob-tied-drug-trafficker-vincenzo-armeni-to-be-released-on-parole


Thanks for posting.


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Un important trafiquant lié à la mafia libéré sous fortes conditions

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...-mafia-libere-sous-fortes-conditions.php

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Armeni are from Locri I think (Siderno group) correct me if I'm wrong.


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Originally Posted by Hollander
Armeni are from Locri I think (Siderno group) correct me if I'm wrong.


I can't correct you because I don't know the places of birth for the few Armenis in Quebec who have a criminal history. I gather that you have no idea either.

My hunch is that some of the earliest 'ndranghetisti in Quebec were born in, lived in, or had ancestry from the comune of Ardore, in Reggio Calabria (provincia). I suspect that Vincenzo Armeni and his relatives have ancestry from Ardore but, until I find definitive proof, I'm just speculating.

Vincenzo Melia, whose mobster brother Nick (also referred to as "Nicholas") is still alive and presumably still living in Stamford, Connecticut, was born in Platì, in Reggio Calabria (provincia). Nick Melia was also born in Platì, specifically in the frazione of Cirella.

In 1963, Vincenzo and his wife were living in Sainte-Marie, which is almost three hours away from Montreal by car -- see my Evernote item at the link below.

https://www.evernote.com/shard/s229...a9f092b/7abc95accf744b8c32da2d9a6cc479f8

Vincenzo's wife, Eugenia Maria (Tarantino), was born in Cirella and had immigrated to Canada in 1959 -- two facts gleaned from her September 8, 2005 obituary in the Stamford Advocate. She died August 9, 2005.

Assuming that Vincenzo and Eugenia were already married when she immigrated in 1959 -- Vincenzo would have been either 29 or 30 years old -- that means Vincenzo might have also immigrated to Canada the same year.

The Italian authorities have evidence that Vincenzo was inducted into the 'ndrangheta in 1962. I'm guessing he was made in Calabria, not Canada, but I can't be sure.

We know that Vincenzo, while an Italian citizen, had moved from Calabria (possibly Siderno) to Toronto at one point. Then he moved to Stamford. We also know that Nick too had spent some time living in Toronto before moving to Connecticut.

We also know that Vincenzo was living in Quebec in the late 1990s because he was shot in the eye on the morning of Paul Cotroni's funeral in 1998 -- this is the year stated in Eugenia Melia's obituary as to when she "retired back to Italy." I presume that Melia's having been shot in the eye had something to do with her return to Italy. I'll have to check my notes to see whether he returned the same year.

Vincenzo's wife was living in Ardore when she died in 2005. When he died in February 2015, he was also living in Ardore.

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Thanks, I had to google Ardore. It borders the following municipalities: Benestare, Bovalino, Ciminà, Platì, Sant'Ilario dello Ionio.


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