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Re: New England chart [Re: JakeTheSnake30] #987883
03/19/20 06:31 PM
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In every family of bunch of valued and respected old timers skip the position all the time. And I do think they care I do believe they still have rats informing but again which informant or witness sat there and named every associate or made men. I assume they go by assumptions and who they believe are still active and whatever the informants think they already know........... my opinion and dinunzios family actually has ties out west as we k ow when they took off there and in both eastie and north end.... I believe to get the approval and take over as they did show how respected they are nationally and they abilities


raymond l.s.patrairca sr to u.s. state committee- " if i didnt have my case coming up ill to come back in here with two gentlemen and when this is over with and really lay down the law, yous guys been giving me nothing but alot of hookwhick and i wish i wasnt on trial and have this case and really tell the united states whats going on "
Jerry Anguilo on wartime with winter hill - " If we got to war we got Joe Russo and the maverick boys so we have nothing to worry about they can go to vietnam and come back untouched "
Re: New England chart [Re: JakeTheSnake30] #987892
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I feel like we talk about the same old group of guys in Providence. @joerusso is there any new legitimate blood coming up? Idk much about him, but is Scivola's kid doing anything? I think he's in his 50s.


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Re: New England chart [Re: JakeTheSnake30] #987905
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Joerusso marble guy Im trying to do a reliable chart,any help is well accepted.

Re: New England chart [Re: The_Marble_Guy] #987906
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Originally Posted by The_Marble_Guy
I feel like we talk about the same old group of guys in Providence. @joerusso is there any new legitimate blood coming up? Idk much about him, but is Scivola's kid doing anything? I think he's in his 50s.


Providence doesn't get talked about enough.

Re: New England chart [Re: JakeTheSnake30] #987919
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I mean providence has so many guys let's be honest even if we go in history we talk about the same guys and providence been and I believe still loaded..... many dont partake that's clear as day everywhere and providence is not the providence of old we know that but u ask a question that sums it all up .... idk what little scivolas doing.... sure not many but his tight little circle... I know he dealt with patsy that I know..... but again what do we know.... I can mention a million names from before all providence guys active up to the 80s but it wont mean nothing all .... so if I use that as reference to show how providence still has many men ..many will argue and ultimately, which is what we all trying to find out, we wont ever because the convo will go elsewhere...idk who anybody is doing all I know is I know providence is active with politicians unions and still have suprising I would say 12 -15 made guys another 20 good active associaties... because all the young blood is same blood as before a great nephew here and a neighborhood kid there..... them kids in Cranston Johnston.... many full blooded and many many into gambling and inheriting many things so idk last time I checked u need a envelope and u need to know someone before u make a move in providence if that dont mean anything idk what to say


raymond l.s.patrairca sr to u.s. state committee- " if i didnt have my case coming up ill to come back in here with two gentlemen and when this is over with and really lay down the law, yous guys been giving me nothing but alot of hookwhick and i wish i wasnt on trial and have this case and really tell the united states whats going on "
Jerry Anguilo on wartime with winter hill - " If we got to war we got Joe Russo and the maverick boys so we have nothing to worry about they can go to vietnam and come back untouched "
Re: New England chart [Re: TheDon1999] #987920
03/20/20 11:37 AM
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Exactly that's where every boss the trafficante Chicago all of New York came to for hitman .....the whole worcester and Springfield is a big branch from providence sooo history dont lie ..... I can just help show the way


raymond l.s.patrairca sr to u.s. state committee- " if i didnt have my case coming up ill to come back in here with two gentlemen and when this is over with and really lay down the law, yous guys been giving me nothing but alot of hookwhick and i wish i wasnt on trial and have this case and really tell the united states whats going on "
Jerry Anguilo on wartime with winter hill - " If we got to war we got Joe Russo and the maverick boys so we have nothing to worry about they can go to vietnam and come back untouched "
Re: New England chart [Re: JakeTheSnake30] #987922
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steven is out, he got immediate release, no halfway....pmac, i dont think peter was ever boss, my opinion, take it for what its worth...russo, im not trying to be inflammatory, so dont take as such, lets leave that shit out for the sake of the board..BIAG has zero to do with anyone, doesnt even leave his house anymore. vf is in florida, pretty much full time. but does pop up..bobby is with C almost every day....

Re: New England chart [Re: JakeTheSnake30] #987923
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on another front. billy a pled out earlier this week. im now hearing he pled because he wont get a long sentence, similar to the narducci case in philly, but more time like 3 or 4 years

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Re: New England chart [Re: JakeTheSnake30] #987924
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i agree about providence, i was in a cafe down there and they had some action going on. some young guys too.

i've heard about a guy in boston making moves named AS. i haven't seen the name on here so that's really all i can post.

Re: New England chart [Re: JakeTheSnake30] #987925
03/20/20 01:24 PM
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The issue I have is that for so long we've talked about the same guys over and over and over again. Granted we havent had anyone give any info that would bring new info about up and comers i.e. informants, cooperators, etc. I haven't heard new names brought up in a long long time. I wonder what would happen if Providence had the same media coverage as Philly does with Anastasia that we would get more info?


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Re: New England chart [Re: RollinBones] #987928
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Originally Posted by RollinBones
i agree about providence, i was in a cafe down there and they had some action going on. some young guys too.

i've heard about a guy in boston making moves named AS. i haven't seen the name on here so that's really all i can post.


@Rollin appreciate the info. That kind of goes to my point when it comes to Prov/Boston tho. No ones mentioned , we put initials. So no one ever knows what we're talking about and if anyone can contribute further. I might know who know your talking about, but I also know a thousand people with initials AS. So again I've never seen anyone put up names on here. That would at least further the discussion on the situation with Prov/Boston.


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Re: New England chart [Re: JakeTheSnake30] #987943
03/20/20 05:23 PM
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Excellent point........and biggie that's just my opinion of who still has a say or huge influence on what goes on and the final say in my opinion due to their past relationships and from what I hear regardless of location or who they deal with on a daily barely or whatever..... IMO


raymond l.s.patrairca sr to u.s. state committee- " if i didnt have my case coming up ill to come back in here with two gentlemen and when this is over with and really lay down the law, yous guys been giving me nothing but alot of hookwhick and i wish i wasnt on trial and have this case and really tell the united states whats going on "
Jerry Anguilo on wartime with winter hill - " If we got to war we got Joe Russo and the maverick boys so we have nothing to worry about they can go to vietnam and come back untouched "
Re: New England chart [Re: JakeTheSnake30] #987944
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But again they could be fully out ..... just my opinion


raymond l.s.patrairca sr to u.s. state committee- " if i didnt have my case coming up ill to come back in here with two gentlemen and when this is over with and really lay down the law, yous guys been giving me nothing but alot of hookwhick and i wish i wasnt on trial and have this case and really tell the united states whats going on "
Jerry Anguilo on wartime with winter hill - " If we got to war we got Joe Russo and the maverick boys so we have nothing to worry about they can go to vietnam and come back untouched "
Re: New England chart [Re: JakeTheSnake30] #987949
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i cant remember now but i think bobby deluca testified about how baby shacks steped down for limone in 08 09 but held onto the strip club shakedown in rhode island i could be wrong i remeber reading some court reporter on twitter live tweeting bobbys testimony at salemmes trial aa few years back. when ray sr was running huge in the 60tys to 80tys he had a made guy in a lttile mill town milford mad. its in between worcester and providence. he had guys in every little town inbetween with a racket that kicked up to him or go to him to settle disputes. the guys today just dont want the headaches i think

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Re: New England chart [Re: Joerusso] #987960
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J.r. Understood.. and no doubt vinny is extremely respected ..all are..biag respected but all set even socially...

Re: New England chart [Re: JakeTheSnake30] #988540
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Richard B is not made. Him and Albie were proposed before the extortion case a few years back, but that faction has lost a lot of juice lately, when AP comes back we will see what happens. I doubt Richard wants anything to do with anything these days. Someone mentioned louie's nephew above, I wouldn't say hes involved, more of a white collar swindler than a gangster, a joe ruggiero type

Re: New England chart [Re: JakeTheSnake30] #988541
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@Zorro I knew Rich B wasn't made. I had heard that they only proposed Albie not Rich. Again all speculation. My point has always been where's the new blood, and who.


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Re: New England chart [Re: JakeTheSnake30] #988547
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Marble guy, I left rhode island a few years ago, only go back a couple times per year, and when I do, only talk to the people I knew when I was around. So as far as the next generation, I don't have any idea. I always wondered myself why they never brought new guys in, the talent was/is there. Except for the few guys made in the late 90s and early 2000s I dont believe there has been anybody. Also someone above mentioned chippys son, good guy but not really involved

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Re: New England chart [Re: Newengland] #988560
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Originally Posted by Newengland
Have not been on here in a while & i can see why. Wow you read this & if smart people cannot see that a few people on here are looking for other people to put names out there then there is something.

If you are asking questions about what is what then what does that tell you.


Idk what does that tell you?


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Jerry Tillinghast
Re: New England chart [Re: Zorro] #988561
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Originally Posted by Zorro
Marble guy, I left rhode island a few years ago, only go back a couple times per year, and when I do, only talk to the people I knew when I was around. So as far as the next generation, I don't have any idea. I always wondered myself why they never brought new guys in, the talent was/is there. Except for the few guys made in the late 90s and early 2000s I dont believe there has been anybody. Also someone above mentioned chippys son, good guy but not really involved


@zorro I mentioned his son because I know quite a few sons and nephews of guys who have gone legitimate. And I wasn't sure about him. I know a nephew of a guy who was turned down for a job because he carries the name. I think the family will eventually die off. Esp from the Providence wing. It gets overlooked imo on the national level. But I think that's because they haven't done anything of recent. Boston is different. But with Providence, Matty and Eddie are all that's left. And AP when he's out. With all this knowledge on this forum it's says alot that we've never heard anyone new come out of Providence. Their days are numbered.


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Re: New England chart [Re: Biggie] #988598
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Originally Posted by Biggie
on another front. billy a pled out earlier this week. im now hearing he pled because he wont get a long sentence, similar to the narducci case in philly, but more time like 3 or 4 years


Biggie, question about this billy a case, I was told he pistol whipped the kid and grabbed a pound of weed off him. Is that about right? Fuckin hilarious if so. He was born 20 years too late, last of a dying breed....

Re: New England chart [Re: Zorro] #988625
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Zorro,story is accurate but I think it was a little more than that in weight, no doubt billy a throwback to a different time.

Re: New England chart [Re: JakeTheSnake30] #988647
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I wonder if he got to keep the Yeezys....


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Re: New England chart [Re: JakeTheSnake30] #988668
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IMO... if this guy matty g is the under boss he can induct anybody he wants. Boston's not gonna say he can't. He was made almost 20yra before cheese and his brother. The guy has friends in the other family's from all his fed time. I think at Rhode island peak they didnt even have 20 made guys probably rite around there and 50 goons around them guys. It's all if guys want to be made or just perfectly fine doing whatever they do.

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If he wants to induct a dozen young guys 30 and 40tys he can. I think like someone said baby shacks only made a handful of those island guys in that 10+yrs he was boss. Bored waiting for the gas company to come put on a tenants heat this is a all day wait in the truck to let them down the cellar rainy day but hey I'm getting paid...

Re: New England chart [Re: pmac] #988678
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Originally Posted by pmac
IMO... if this guy matty g is the under boss he can induct anybody he wants. Boston's not gonna say he can't. He was made almost 20yra before cheese and his brother. The guy has friends in the other family's from all his fed time. I think at Rhode island peak they didnt even have 20 made guys probably rite around there and 50 goons around them guys. It's all if guys want to be made or just perfectly fine doing whatever they do.



You're 100% correct. He could. But my point is he hasn't. Rhode Island will be off the map in 15-20 years.


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Sittite..a few pairs of those as well lol

Re: New England chart [Re: JakeTheSnake30] #988836
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I disagree about Rhode island.. mainly I brought the issue and boy I hear they was always the real foothold of so many guys....guys like mike mendoZzi, cardillo, rich tiberi, felix debenedetti, mike Maserati, chubby presioso,...and many other guys who we have no idea about like furio from bobo crew who told and vessechio who was made and got wacked and another guy who flipped in 84 a made guy forgot his name and they have people like chris patraica juniors son and chippy son and nephew and bobos grandkids and few nephews dellsantos boys are big in the game and that's head a few... I heard abouta few thieves that's more than thieves but they had a huge theft ring marchetti and meo and savi they were very hardly connected with mannochio and one of mannochio great solder leonordo and gasea but all we heard if you even heard about them was the golden nugget crew when mannochio got picked up for receiving stolen goods.... ... we need someone who kknows slot about Rhode island to speak on more until then that's all I came up with when I asked some questions...


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@Russo the Tiberi's have been around long time. And they're not even made. They got the place on fed Hill that got hit a few years ago. A name I never heard get brought up a lot was Frank Pirri Jr. I know the family well and before he passed I always thought he was someone very capable. Could be wrong.


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