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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #979485
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Quatre meurtres de mafieux finalement résolus:

https://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2019/10/16/quatre-meurtres-de-mafieux-finalement-resolus


La police arrête de présumés tueurs issus du crime organisé

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...sumes-tueurs-issus-du-crime-organise.php

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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #979489
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This is just the start they will now also solve other murders. Is someone talking?

Quebec provincial police make arrests in 4 Mafia killings
SQ says killings happened amid struggle for power and an old Montreal Mafia conflict

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/4-arrested-in-mafia-deaths-1.5322714


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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #979494
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4 arrested in 4 Mafia killings that targeted Rizzuto clan

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...ns-lead-to-eight-raids-and-four-arrests/

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #979496
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Originally Posted by antimafia
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According to Radio-Canada reporter Pascal Robidas,

1. the Sûreté du Québec (province's police force) has indicated that Salvatore Scoppa's murder was retaliation for his having ordered the four murders, and

2. the SQ had found the motorcycle used by two of the shooters.

I don't know when the motorcycle was found, especially in light of the fact that last month, the SQ had published photos for the first time since Sollecito was killed, including a picture of two unidentified people on the motorcycle.


Radio-Canada has an updated article online that states the four murders were ordered by Jonathan Massari.

Quatre meurtres mafieux résolus par la SQ

https://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvell...i-scoppa-viau-sollecito-falduto-vincenzo

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #979498
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Thanks anti, this is big. Guy Dion charged with the murders of the Falduto brothers is a local fire chief !

"We are really surprised to hear news like this," said Mayor of Saint-Jude Yves de Bellefeuille, in a telephone interview. We did not expect that. Guy Dion, we've known him for a long time, he was a pretty "low profile" guy. But it proves that you never really know the people you think you know."

Guy Dion was immediately suspended on pay and the municipality indicated that she would soon be appointing an Acting Fire Chief.


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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #979522
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Four arrested in four Mafia killings that targeted Rizzuto clan
https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...ns-lead-to-eight-raids-and-four-arrests/ [NB: This updated article has more details than the original.]


Arrestations pour des meurtres liés à la mafia : les présumés tueurs piégés par une taupe
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...presumes-tueurs-pieges-par-une-taupe.php


Commando de la mafia piégé
https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2019/10/17/commando-de-la-mafia-piege

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #979548
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Daniel Renaud has updated his article -- see link below.

Projet Préméditer : la taupe aurait comploté avec les accusés
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...upe-aurait-complote-avec-les-accuses.php

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #979582
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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #979736
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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: Blackmobs] #979737
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After last weeks arrests, that didn't take long. I'd expect some of those arrested to start talking pretty quickly out of fear.

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #979745
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Man slain in Pierrefonds lot was Mafia-linked Andrea Scoppa: police source
https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...ool-of-blood-in-pierrefonds-parking-lot/


The alleged Mafia leader Andrew Scoppa was killed in Pierrefonds
http://ctv.news/KrhX29Y


Le mafioso Andrew Scoppa tué d’une balle à la tête
https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2019/10/21/un-homme-abattu-en-plein-jour-dans-louest-de-montreal (by Éric Thibault)


Link below is to photos uploaded to Twitter by Maxime Deland, a colleague of Thibault's.

https://twitter.com/MaxDelandQMI/status/1186287544612339712?s=20

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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #979747
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Video link:

Pierrefonds: Assassinat de Andrew Scoppa / Mafioso shot dead at restaurant 10-21-2019

https://the4kguy.com/video/rf9njf7s...fioso-shot-dead-at-restaurant-10-21-2019

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #979750
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Man found dead in Pierrefonds parking lot, police say

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/pierrefonds-man-found-shot-police-1.5328644

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Man shot dead in Pierrefonds parking lot is Andrea Scoppa: police sources

https://globalnews.ca/news/6059334/man-shot-dead-pierrefonds-parking-lot/

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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #979760
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You've got to wonder, with the recent news from last week... why was he keeping up with the regular routines like the gym? Wouldn't you be in hiding? No hired bodyguard? Why so sloppy?

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Originally Posted by housepainter
You've got to wonder, with the recent news from last week... why was he keeping up with the regular routines like the gym? Wouldn't you be in hiding? No hired bodyguard? Why so sloppy?


Keeps suprising me too. Either he didn't expect it or he chose to accept his fate. Or perhaps he didn't want to raise any suspicion or appear weak.


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Were the Falduto brothers the shooters for the Scoppas in the Sollecito and Giordano hits, then double -crossed and killed themselves by the Scoppas? Seems like they were clearly Scoppa crew members...

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Originally Posted by housepainter
You've got to wonder, with the recent news from last week... why was he keeping up with the regular routines like the gym? Wouldn't you be in hiding? No hired bodyguard? Why so sloppy?


bodyguards are no deterrents, just potential collateral damage. Cuntrera's bodyguard was blown away with the old man. Ducarme Joseph's gunned down in the Flawnego hit. Andrew went like his bro, Magi and Ducarme Joseph who all knew they were targeted and living on borrowed time. yet they all chose to stick around and go through their regular routines. fascinating mindset that civilians can't understand. there's one more Scoppa brother left. hope he wasn't involved in any of this.

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Originally Posted by mr_white
Were the Falduto brothers the shooters for the Scoppas in the Sollecito and Giordano hits, then double -crossed and killed themselves by the Scoppas? Seems like they were clearly Scoppa crew members...


no, Scarfo and Massari were on that hit. Falduto bros were eliminated because of their loyalty to the Sicilians and the territory they controlled (part of RDP)

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At some point Andrew seemed to be have been close to becoming the new leader of the Montreal Mafia, until he was incarcerated. Things might've been very different for Leonardo Rizzuto and Stefano Sollecito had they not been arrested when their lives were in danger. Instead the elder Sollecito and Giordano were killed as interim leaders, but the real leaders were safe behind bars. You'd almost think the police are on the Sicilians' side.


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Originally Posted by Sonny_Black
At some point Andrew seemed to be have been close to becoming the new leader of the Montreal Mafia, until he was incarcerated. Things might've been very different for Leonardo Rizzuto and Stefano Sollecito had they not been arrested when their lives were in danger. Instead the elder Sollecito and Giordano were killed as interim leaders, but the real leaders were save behind bars. You'd almost think the police are on the Sicilians' side.


Giordano was Frank Arcadi's guy, who was also behind bars at the time.

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Originally Posted by Hollander
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At some point Andrew seemed to be have been close to becoming the new leader of the Montreal Mafia, until he was incarcerated. Things might've been very different for Leonardo Rizzuto and Stefano Sollecito had they not been arrested when their lives were in danger. Instead the elder Sollecito and Giordano were killed as interim leaders, but the real leaders were save behind bars. You'd almost think the police are on the Sicilians' side.


Giordano was Frank Arcadi's guy, who was also behind bars at the time.


Yeah, who would've thought Compare Franco would be the last man standing of the old guard. He made so many enemies he would've been the first to go had he not been behind bars too.


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Gotta wonder where he is now? Him and Del Balso... not a peep...

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So whose the winners in all this? Leonardo rizzuto is free rite? If he is im guessing hes living on barrowed time. Should pack up and move to Wyoming if they allow him in the usa

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Originally Posted by horse_face
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Were the Falduto brothers the shooters for the Scoppas in the Sollecito and Giordano hits, then double -crossed and killed themselves by the Scoppas? Seems like they were clearly Scoppa crew members...


no, Scarfo and Massari were on that hit. Falduto bros were eliminated because of their loyalty to the Sicilians and the territory they controlled (part of RDP)


The Falduto surname is found most among Italians whose ancestry is from Calabria but is common enough that people in Lombardia, Lazio, Piemonte, Sicily, and Toscana -- among other regions -- also bear that surname. Do you happen to know whether there is definitive information that the Falduto brothers had Calabrian ancestry?

I'm fairly certain Lorenzo Giordano's mother (last name: Scrufari) descended from Calabria. Did his father as well?

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Originally Posted by antimafia
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Were the Falduto brothers the shooters for the Scoppas in the Sollecito and Giordano hits, then double -crossed and killed themselves by the Scoppas? Seems like they were clearly Scoppa crew members...


no, Scarfo and Massari were on that hit. Falduto bros were eliminated because of their loyalty to the Sicilians and the territory they controlled (part of RDP)


The Falduto surname is found most among Italians whose ancestry is from Calabria but is common enough that people in Lombardia, Lazio, Piemonte, Sicily, and Toscana -- among other regions -- also bear that surname. Do you happen to know whether there is definitive information that the Falduto brothers had Calabrian ancestry?

I'm fairly certain Lorenzo Giordano's mother (last name: Scrufari) descended from Calabria. Did his father as well?


Once again the media strikes. They pitch this whole thing as a Sicilian vs Calabrian rivalry when it's not that simple.

Falduto are from Reggio Calabria
Giordano also from Reggio Calabria
Sollecito from Bari
Spagnolo from Cattolica Eraclea
Scoppa is from Catanzaro region

Clearly this isn't a sicilian vs calabrian cell war but rather a battle for turf between different clans which have italian canadian leaders from various regions in italy. The Scoppa brothers were at odds with similarly aged gangsters left from the old rizzuto clan.

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Andrew Scoppa, the former head of the Montreal Mafia who was shot in the head yesterday morning, was about to leave the country and had already bought his plane ticket abroad.

https://www.journaldequebec.com/2019/10/21/un-homme-abattu-en-plein-jour-dans-louest-de-montreal


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Originally Posted by Sonny_Black
At some point Andrew seemed to be have been close to becoming the new leader of the Montreal Mafia, until he was incarcerated. Things might've been very different for Leonardo Rizzuto and Stefano Sollecito had they not been arrested when their lives were in danger. Instead the elder Sollecito and Giordano were killed as interim leaders, but the real leaders were safe behind bars. You'd almost think the police are on the Sicilians' side.


The police probably are on their side lol

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So whose the winners in all this? Leonardo rizzuto is free rite? If he is im guessing hes living on barrowed time. Should pack up and move to Wyoming if they allow him in the usa


Why would he run now? He’s been fighting since Vito died and now it seems that it’s finally paying off. If he was going to run he should have a long time ago lol shit is getting very interesting up there can’t wait to see who gets offed next

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