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Sammy "The Bull" Gravano - Valuetainment Exclusive #978624
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"A fish with his mouth closed never get's caught"
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He looks an old man, boy do time flys


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If they Whacked Him..It would be a different story today..Too Bad

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Wow......Can anyone agree that this dude Patrick has some serious interview power? The guys hes getting interviews with are legit. I've watched alot of his stuff. And he self admitted that he's fallen into the mob genre regarding interviews. I forgot which interview it was but he mentions how this was never a route he planned. Very impressed by this.


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Well, that's the biggest get you could get. I'm sure that's going to be interesting. Wow. Wonder what the story is there? He have to throw Sammy a nice fat envelope?

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Wow been waiting for an interview from him about time

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this looks good. hope he asks do you no the gambinos number one hitman that was around when you was underboss john alite. he personally demoted joe n gallo for john gotti in 87, planned dibono murder that you actually planned...... be funny. i like sammys swearing seems realer no dianne sawyeer

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I hope that at three hours long we get some new info out of this. I'm definitely going to check it out. Thanks for the news Strax.

This guy really is getting a lot of mob guys in. Fingers crossed next up is Joey Massino!

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Originally Posted by pmac
this looks good. hope he asks do you no the gambinos number one hitman that was around when you was underboss john alite. he personally demoted joe n gallo for john gotti in 87, planned dibono murder that you actually planned...... be funny. i like sammys swearing seems realer no dianne sawyeer


Sammy actually backs up Alite in this very interview and boosts his credibility. You will be surprised. It's kind of funny how people on these forums say one thing and how people who truly lived that life say something completely different. Mikey Scars is another guy who has verified Alite's close ties to the Gottis.

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Originally Posted by ralphie_cifaretto
Originally Posted by pmac
this looks good. hope he asks do you no the gambinos number one hitman that was around when you was underboss john alite. he personally demoted joe n gallo for john gotti in 87, planned dibono murder that you actually planned...... be funny. i like sammys swearing seems realer no dianne sawyeer


Sammy actually backs up Alite in this very interview and boosts his credibility. You will be surprised. It's kind of funny how people on these forums say one thing and how people who truly lived that life say something completely different. Mikey Scars is another guy who has verified Alite's close ties to the Gottis.


What are you talking about? Lots of upper echelon mobsters tell their personal business to internet posters. Happens all the time.


I invoke my right under the 5th amendment of the United States constitution and decline to answer the question.
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Not denying alite was around the gottis theres a ton of pics. Just dont belive he had any power he thinks he had in the 80tys when he was about 24 25yrs old. And him saying he was in the dibono hit at the world trade center when some guy who was a crash car said he was not. And sammy writting a book and giving tons of interviews and testifying never brought his name up back then. I hope the interview guy asks sammy if he knows him besides some witsec friends program. But there both very anti gotti so it makes sense. Idk. I'll go down the rabbit hole when i have time. Where do you watch the full thing?

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This should be good...

Looks like that Sonny Franzese documentary that was supposed to come out at the end of spring isn't coming out for whatever reason !!

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Re: Sammy "The Bull" Gravano - Valuetainment Exclusive [Re: Strax] #978773
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So i watched a little of alites interview. Ok he practically blows sammy the whole interview . Hes the perfect gangster. Sucks him off and tickles the balls for 2 hrs. He wont even call mikey scars a rat hes a gentleman cooperator. Mike franzese a genius mafioso. You get were this is going. And we find out guess what alite and sammy are making a documentary movie together with some company in europe and those checks are fat. So no wonder sammy has nothing but great thing to say about him. When sammy gave the fbi his proffer session which is like 50 pages long were he names fucking every guy n capo in the 5 familes who went to what wedding who was at the scene of what murder alite was never a thought. I mean you can read it on the smoking gun. All the ravenite tapes are published wont here his name there. Idk guy just has a inflated ego and i think he believes hes still n good standing with criminals its weird

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They probably will get a nice payout after their project is done. That is why they are being nice. Watching Alite interview, they must have struck gold that is why we see him sucking off Gravano so much. It looks like they dont have two dimes to run together and this is their meal ticket.


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i just saw bagel boss canceld against screech we need the jr gotti vs alite fight for a childrens charity... then they can crown whoever loses some awful title. bored waiting for cowboys game but want to see this 60 mins segment on great whites down the cape...... im getting old. i enjoy jeopardy and if alex dies im gonna be sad

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The interview is suppose to premiere on Friday morning


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Here it is.....it's the most authentic account of the mafia life to date...and Ive been on these boards for a long time...

https://youtu.be/9ECEWShKAoM

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Just watched it this afternoon. Pretty good. He had good story about Scarfo.

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I liked the Carlo part about Toddo not loving him like he loves his wife. It was pretty good. Podcast, book, and Hollywood to follow.

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Originally Posted by fergie
Here it is.....it's the most authentic account of the mafia life to date...and Ive been on these boards for a long time...

https://youtu.be/9ECEWShKAoM


No doubt


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I love this," "I just love this."
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fuck it boring saturday morning i;ll give it a shot.going in. might break it down in pieces threw out the day review at 11

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Good documentary.
Few beers; a shot and a drink of vodka had me closely tuned in.

I was surprised at how Sammy talked about how Paul Castellano thought alot of him. Think he said at one meeting at Paul's mansion. There were a bunch of captains around a table and Paul was raving at how Sammy was both a gangster and businessman all in one.... Paul said something along the lines that Sammy was the only one in the family with both of those traits. All the captains were shocked...

Sammy said he lost respect for Paul once Frank DeCicco did..

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the part were he talking about big paul having a affair with his columbian maid well his wife and daughter are in the house was interesting. ive heard it before but how he explained how all the troops were like this is fucked up i would never treat my wife like this bring it down the street was smart

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Originally Posted by Zavattoni
Good documentary.
Few beers and a shot of drink of vodka had me closely tuned in.

I was surprised at how Sammy talked about how Paul Castellano thought alot of him. Think he said at one meeting at Paul's mansion. There were a bunch of captains around a table and Paul was raving at how Sammy was both a gangster and businessman all in one.... Paul said something along the lines that Sammy was the only one in the family with both of those traits. All the captains were shocked...

Sammy said he lost respect for Paul once Frank DeCicco did..

Makes sense. Sammy was big in construction and Paul loved construction and white collar rackets. I also think the Johnny Keys Simone hit also lifted Sammys stature to Paul. The maid was Pauls biggest mistake along with greed. Also when Paul basically handed Frank Piccolo over to be killed it also hurt his standing with the family

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Pretty good. Don't see an interview with a pure sociopath who's free very often. Gotta love how these assholes think they are good businessmen.

Sammy was such a good businessman that when he lost the power of the mob he moved to Scottsdale AZ, started a pool construction company that never built a single pool and then got his family busted in an ecstacy ring. And did 17 years himself. Pure fucking genius.

Once he lost the power of the mob he was a total failure at life for the second time. The world is not a better place with him out of his cage.

There is a video somewhere of a contractor in AZ talking about working for Sammy at his house putting in a countertop or something. The guy figured out who he was. Sammy wanted the counter or whatever a certain way. The guys says look, I know who you are, but you don't know shit about construction.

These guys thinking they are good businessmen is like the retarded but smoking hot blonde who thinks she got her job because she's smart.

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I remember the carpenter in arizona giving that interview. He was like this guy don't have a clue he must be some mobster in wpp. It was funny. Anyway i skipped around the first hour was dull. He says he has a podcast coming that could be interesting if he talks about all the 5 families shit happening back then. I always wanted to hear his thoughts on carmine galante getting whacked in 79 right in his backyard. A 13part podcast. 1977 to1990 every year break it all down with some one just asking the questions. Think he has another book coming to. I get his construction thinking. He had a drywall company and he was close to union bosses to get the contract. He just hires some laborers to hang it and get out he gets a nice check. He doesnt handle the taping or plastering . He probaly just has one guy in charge. Doesnt take a genuis. I'll right my review later got maybe the last hour to go

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He gets much more animated at the end when it becomes clear that it's almost over and nothing but softball questions.

He contradicts himself a few times. And I wish he'd learn to pronounce dyslexic and dyslexia. Full of energy for a guy his age. I wonder if teddy Atlas will offer a rebuttal.

He has a pod cast, new book and possibly scripted show coming, whatever that means.

I will wait until I can get the book used or at a library. Not spending a nickel on this guy.

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This shows what Gravano thinks of Michael Franzese...Franzese goes on shows bad mouthing Gravano to kiss Gotti's family's ass and Gravano didn't say anything bad about him {unless it was edited out} and actually speaks well of his father...

The host here looks at Gravano totally different then he did Franzese...With Franzese he was smiling and chuckling like 2 kids in high school..With Gravano, his face was more like this guy's the real deal !!

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Originally Posted by pmac
the part were he talking about big paul having a affair with his columbian maid well his wife and daughter are in the house was interesting. ive heard it before but how he explained how all the troops were like this is fucked up i would never treat my wife like this bring it down the street was smart


Yeah, I definitely thought that was interesting as well how he broke down the relationship between how a soldier views the boss of the Family. Even before that explanation I thought that was very shitty of Paul to be carrying on with her like that in the same friggin' house as his wife and not trying to hide the relationship with her. And the fact that she was butt ass ugly to boot. Ha.

Be interested in hearing the podcast. Sammy is a good storyteller. Compelling. I like that he hinted at some things he was saving for the book or podcast and didn't blow it all on this. Although lengthy, he can go into a lot more detail in other avenues.

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I cant even believe I actually googled bagel boss...That was embarrassing, and so in John jr...

We're talking gangsters here....Gravano's a gangster..Those clowns aren't...Bagel boss ?? Geez, come on !!

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Oh the little bagel guy from longvisland that went viral was good for a week. But yaeh sammy in a 30ish min podcast just break it down by year 1977 78 79ect till he flips would be gold. Just ask about what everyone was doing. Like the deuce on HBO jumped into the porno trade it be great to hear sammys story on that i think unless hes just a dumbass who wasnt in the fold. Him an massino podcast would be the shit

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Originally Posted by DiLorenzo
Gravano's a gangster..Those clowns aren't...Bagel boss ?? Geez, come on !!


72-year-old, we will hear from him again even after so many years in prison he is not rehabilitated haha..


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He may be a “rat” but his insight into Cosa Nostra is still incredible to hear. He really did live the street life.

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Originally Posted by pmac
Like the deuce on HBO jumped into the porno trade it be great to hear sammys story on that i think unless hes just a dumbass who wasnt in the fold. Him an massino podcast would be the shit


I love The Deuce.


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Underated but franco's career is done by the me to movement. Hes cancer

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so i stoped at the poimt were sammys saying him an gotti are in the car in front of sparks . he said he had a gun and walkie talkie??? did he say that ever before the walkie?? they had walkies like that in 86?? i guess

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i do tend to belive some of sammys shit. sue me. but he didnt know tthe construction shit

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final review. sammy wont talk about any guy in any family even if hes 100 today thats in the life. you know what that means he doesnt want to kick the hornets nest. he could talk about all todays leadership barney bellomo ect he wont . hes living in the past. he talks about gotti hes dead the sons a rat ect

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i do respect he said he was sad gotti died in jail like a dog

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he is a slime . but hes hes a moderate lol. hes funny sometimes.hes about building the wall and help the blacks

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he makes sure he keeps saying my x wife which means there together but he still thinks about those guys in nyc. he called his brother inlaw that guy eddy something doing life a snake thats weird. hes married to his sister and the kids were on that mob wives show. he is still a pyscho thats you family. he didnt want gottis lawyers saying he was a monster during the trial so he flipped but he'll call his sisters kids father a snake. his nieces and nephews. weird

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Underated but franco's career is done by the me to movement. Hes cancer


I'm tired of me too everybody knew how it worked in Hollywood.


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The full length interview is very good. I would give it a 'like' on Youtube but I don't know the interviewer [Bet-David] well enough, to do that.

There was an interview Sammy did long ago for a magazine, maybe GQ or something. He sounded somewhat lost in it, wondering aloud how he was capable of doing some of the things he did. Now in this interview he sounds much wiser, as if he's somewhat grown beyond his own riddle.

I really liked this interview.


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It looks like this interview and his upcoming podcast are set up to sell his book and promote his tv show. And what's going to be in the new book that wasn't in the old one? My guess is not very much (that is true at least). Now that everyone's dead, all these guys are coming out of the woodwork like Franzese, the guy who played Carlo in The Godfather, and now Sammy has some tales that he's been holding in for 20 years. I don't buy it. He's probably going to rehash the old stories, add some prison stories, and mix in some commentary on life in the 21st century. I have a copy of Underboss. And watching about the first hour of this interview I've not heard anything that would convince me his next book will be anything near as interesting.


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Maybe the book will at least have his opinion on what would have happened if the guys Peter Gotti sent to kill him didn't get caught. Does the fbi make special rules for those guys to carry firearms? Felons can't have guns, but at the same time they their lives are always in danger for cooperating.

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I wouldn't be surprised if most of his book, and his ensuing tv project (probably a youtube channel) is just ranting about society. He's eyeing that Franzese dollar.


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Originally Posted by OakAsFan
It looks like this interview and his upcoming podcast are set up to sell his book and promote his tv show.


Exactly, he pretty much didn't say anything new in this interview.


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He says at one point, when he's going into detail about something, (paraphrasing) "I have to stop. The book people are going to kill me".


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Originally Posted by pmac
so i stoped at the poimt were sammys saying him an gotti are in the car in front of sparks . he said he had a gun and walkie talkie??? did he say that ever before the walkie?? they had walkies like that in 86?? i guess


I’ve heard that many times about the walkie talkie’s. I’ve also read where a witness said they heard or saw one of the shooters with a walkie talkie.

Almost as well known as the trench coats and Russian hats.

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Btw, I just watched an interview with Pacino, Scorsese and DeNiro then went back and resumed the Gravano interview. I never realized Sammy Gravano and Al Pacino have literally the same voice and accent? Who knew?


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Originally Posted by OakAsFan
Btw, I just watched an interview with Pacino, Scorsese and DeNiro then went back and resumed the Gravano interview. I never realized Sammy Gravano and Al Pacino have literally the same voice and accent? Who knew?


You can't hear the difference? I can.

I've never been a big fan of Pacino. His way of imitating someone like Sammy is to act the slob. Sammy was actually very well comported and well put together, but then he would say "dylexic" instead of "dyslexia".


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The story he told about bribing juror is a lie, Bosko Radonjic gave interview in 2008 when he said that juror was his best man at wedding and he didn't pay him anything , he was selected out of 560 jurors and immediately asked Bosko if he needs favor.


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Pretty good. Don't see an interview with a pure sociopath who's free very often. Gotta love how these assholes think they are good businessmen.

Sammy was such a good businessman that when he lost the power of the mob he moved to Scottsdale AZ, started a pool construction company that never built a single pool and then got his family busted in an ecstacy ring. And did 17 years himself. Pure fucking genius.

Once he lost the power of the mob he was a total failure at life for the second time. The world is not a better place with him out of his cage.

There is a video somewhere of a contractor in AZ talking about working for Sammy at his house putting in a countertop or something. The guy figured out who he was. Sammy wanted the counter or whatever a certain way. The guys says look, I know who you are, but you don't know shit about construction.

These guys thinking they are good businessmen is like the retarded but smoking hot blonde who thinks she got her job because she's smart.


I agree with you 100%. He comes off like a dolt. He's even too stupid to realize that the guys complimenting his business skills are just trying to make a buck off him. He's a moron.

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Pretty good. Don't see an interview with a pure sociopath who's free very often. Gotta love how these assholes think they are good businessmen.

Sammy was such a good businessman that when he lost the power of the mob he moved to Scottsdale AZ, started a pool construction company that never built a single pool and then got his family busted in an ecstacy ring. And did 17 years himself. Pure fucking genius.

Once he lost the power of the mob he was a total failure at life for the second time. The world is not a better place with him out of his cage.

There is a video somewhere of a contractor in AZ talking about working for Sammy at his house putting in a countertop or something. The guy figured out who he was. Sammy wanted the counter or whatever a certain way. The guys says look, I know who you are, but you don't know shit about construction.

These guys thinking they are good businessmen is like the retarded but smoking hot blonde who thinks she got her job because she's smart.


I agree with you 100%. He comes off like a dolt. He's even too stupid to realize that the guys complimenting his business skills are just trying to make a buck off him. He's a moron.


Lol I know. He's being a whore for the dollar which is fine, after all what else can he do?

But in being a whore for the dollar he's so arrogant and dumb that he actually thinks he's outsmarting those people.

There was nothing that could have changed how I turned out.

Oh absolutely I could have turned out different.

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Btw, I just watched an interview with Pacino, Scorsese and DeNiro then went back and resumed the Gravano interview. I never realized Sammy Gravano and Al Pacino have literally the same voice and accent? Who knew?


You can't hear the difference? I can.

I've never been a big fan of Pacino. His way of imitating someone like Sammy is to act the slob. Sammy was actually very well comported and well put together, but then he would say "dylexic" instead of "dyslexia".


Sammy sounds more street. Other than that they're like the same person if you could only hear and not see them.


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There's nothing wrong with being a whore for a dollar. There never has been.

I've watched about 20 minutes so far and what strikes me is Gravano is so limited of vocabulary. Not quite a mastermind. But you know on the streets he was a shark.

I'm hoping they cover some of the hits. I haven't read Underboss in years. Peter Maas was a good friend of my family and I read it in high school. Honestly, the two worked well together to write a very gripping book whether or not true crime is your "genre" or not.

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I believe most of what Gravano says...One thing I don't believe is that Gotti was on the scene of the Big Paul hit...The feds didn't have evidence on that...Only Gravano's word...I'd bet that even the feds didn't believe Gotti was on the scene...They just wanted to believe that, or even worse put the words in Gravano's mouth !!

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Sammy 100% in my opinion lied when he claimed Gotti told him he’s a monster on the tapes/ and that he should do the time and Gotti go free.

That’s complete Bs. In Sammy’s book he says nobody in the mob tells u to do time. On top of that, Sammy never mentioned it in his book nor did he say it in the Diana Sawyer interview

In fact in the interview he said ‘just maybe just maybe, the jury may see it that way’ and let Gotti off but Sammy goes down

I personally feel he’s most likely ashamed of being a rat and now is blaming Gotti

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Hes definitely ashamed of being a rat. He probaly just wishes he could have plead out like some of the luchese guys or scarfo guys who did 20+yrs and can go back to there old hood and show face. Hes living in denial. That why he even says i still hold the mafia in respect. Even a gene gotti bet hes back in the fold. There was a boston made guy i forgot his name but he reached from little rock ak out to that lawyer cardinale and said he regretted flipiing and dying alone away from his family. If he could take it back he would

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I fell out of my chair laughing when Sammy said he wanted to bring back mental institutions. Maybe he's thinking of a retirement spot for himself lol.


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So John Gotti was a Killer . Sammy Said He kill you in a Heart Beat lol . smile

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I agree 💯... plus it’s not up to Gotti to decide who goes free and who does time. That’s up to the Government. And there was no way they were letting Gotti go free. They wanted Gotti WAY more than Gravano. He’s def lying right there and who knows what else...

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Sorry if this has been answered before but in Gravano's book he talks about someone named "Zuvito" who helped his father out. Does anyone know who Zuvito is? Is it just a pseudonym? I'm guessing Profaci family, considering the time and place.


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Secrets poured from Massino as he recalled a life of crime spanning more than five decades:
- Massino fingered John Gotti as the killer in a 1975 gangland hit of Vito Borelli never before attributed to the late Gambino boss. Borelli was whacked in a cookie warehouse because he said mob chieftain Paul Castellano resembled chicken king Frank Perdue.


Massino yesterday also named John Gotti as the triggerman in the 1975 hit of Vito Borelli, who’d made a crack about mob boss Paul Castellano’s resemblance to renowned chicken man Frank Perdue.

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A March 1986 raid on DiBernardo's office seized alleged "child pornography and financial records." As "a result of the Postal Inspectors seizures [a federal prosecutor] is attempting to indict DiBernardo on child pornography violations" according to an FBI memo dated May 20, 1986.
Thousands of pages of FBI Files that document his involvement in Child Porn
https://www.muckrock.com/foi/united-states-of-america-10/star-distributors-ltd-46454/
https://www.upi.com/Archives/1981/0...s-Miporn-investigation-of/7758361252800/
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i believe what massino said he broke it all the way down. he said it happend in anthony rabitos candy shop or something in manhattan. it basically got all invovled there button in one of the 2 families

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think even demeo was there to dispose the body. might have gotten that mixed up but thats the time frame. alite loves saying gotti never pulled the trigger like it effects his legacy on the mafia. that guy is literaly trying to rewrite history and hes not even a member of the mafia or italian to join its crazy hes taking over youtube mafia videos hes was never in it

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Didn't sammy also say john never pulled the trigger?

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Originally Posted by Bobbybacala
Didn't sammy also say john never pulled the trigger?

. Yes. Although he did say that Gotti was capable of it. Me personally I always felt the same way. I never saw Gotti as a trigger man but he still ordered a ton of murders so he is a murderer. A couple of years ago I posted a list of all of Gotti’s hits that I know of and there was only one or two that I thought he may have had involvement in the actual murder

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Ex-Gambino Mafia family underboss Sammy Gravano is trying to get some good gangster PR – Will it work? http://gangstersinc.ning.com/profil...underboss-sammy-gravano-is-trying-to-get


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im not saying he would do it or should do it but maybe if frankie gave the location of robert dibernado body to the family. surposely he did away with it after sammy killed him at his office in brooklyn. probaly make the feds not appeal his ruling if hes granted a new trial or whatever the legal term is. there was some old mobster in rhode island a few years back on his death bed he gave the fbi the location of some guys body they killed in the 70tys and burried just so he could make peace with god or some shit

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just looked at db the porn king from the gambinos he was a small fragile looking dude almost like a jewish banker. he was worth alot of money im surprised he was basically one of the founding guys on the plan to kill big paul. im mean you cant tell shit from a picture but he just looked like a dweeb he was from brooklyn i think and started out in the decavs big brooklyn crew and carlo gambino noticed he was such a money maker he just took him. he was one of the first guys made when they opened the books. he was a huge loan shark, porno kingpin and he had hooks in the union. whne he was killed they took his money and sammy took over his union guys. that fucked up and gotti says on tape i let sammy do it. the guy was only a soldier how could he have been any threat to gotti, also he must not have had many friends or blood relatives in the family cause it seems like no one gave a shit or tried to prevent it.

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Originally Posted by pmac
just looked at db the porn king from the gambinos he was a small fragile looking dude almost like a jewish banker. he was worth alot of money im surprised he was basically one of the founding guys on the plan to kill big paul. im mean you cant tell shit from a picture but he just looked like a dweeb he was from brooklyn i think and started out in the decavs big brooklyn crew and carlo gambino noticed he was such a money maker he just took him. he was one of the first guys made when they opened the books. he was a huge loan shark, porno kingpin and he had hooks in the union. whne he was killed they took his money and sammy took over his union guys. that fucked up and gotti says on tape i let sammy do it. the guy was only a soldier how could he have been any threat to gotti, also he must not have had many friends or blood relatives in the family cause it seems like no one gave a shit or tried to prevent it.

. I don’t think appearances mean anything. Scarfing was short yet he was one of the most vicious mobsters we have seen.

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jcrusher very right. reminds me sammy would have been easy guy to take out if a boss wanted he didnt have a dad or brother cousin n the family. his sister was married to that guy garafolo who i think has many of his blood dad and uncle in the gambinos. sammy never mentioned that he makes it sound like edidie got into the gambinos on his coat tails

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sammy loved to mention in his book how big a weasel his brother inlaw was and how everyone wanted to kill him but no one ever did. and he was in good standing with the familiyand other families over a decade after sammy flipped. i did read jimmy brown wanted to kill a few of sammys guys i think big lou and eddie but gotti sr said no. but that could just be steam. vic and gas would have killed sammys whole crew and there moms

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Ed had no members of his family ever in the mob..

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really. garafola probaly just a popular name. iseen it i think joe bonannos book alot. i figured theres probaly a connection. brooklyn. was he made by big paul or after gotti took over? he seems like by other familys he was doing joint contruction rackets way after sammy flipped. hes indicted with abunch of guys 2003 04

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