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Re: Mob Talk 32
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08/11/19 08:06 AM
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Persiano and Piccolo were with Nicky Jr out of AC, somehow and someway they ended up with Philly LCN . I can’t see Skinny or Uncle Joe making them.... They did not ...but someone moved them into that wing of the family and I am surprised uncle Joe went for it unless that’s what Joe was talking about in those tapes that are out there ( that they are to wait till ***** gets home ) But why do the mob reporters know all that shit they post on YouTube but they don’t know the real life shit ?? If the have people inside they would know the truth about so much shit ....but they don’t.
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Re: Mob Talk 32
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08/11/19 09:58 AM
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I think that guy persiano will try to reach out to george or mayo face and give his side of the story seems like thw turncoats in philly always run to the press and give there story. Horsehead, crow, crazy phil, tommy del, harry hunch, veasey, privite, bent finger, theres more. He'll want his time in the sun.
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Re: Mob Talk 32
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08/11/19 05:12 PM
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Persiano and Piccolo were with Nicky Jr out of AC, somehow and someway they ended up with Philly LCN . I can’t see Skinny or Uncle Joe making them.... They did not ...but someone moved them into that wing of the family and I am surprised uncle Joe went for it unless that’s what Joe was talking about in those tapes that are out there ( that they are to wait till ***** gets home ) But why do the mob reporters know all that shit they post on YouTube but they don’t know the real life shit ?? If the have people inside they would know the truth about so much shit ....but they don’t. Whatever about Schratwieser, but you're talking about George Anastasia, right? Respected journalist and author who has covered the crime beat in Philly for so many years and published many critically esteemed books? Cut the guy some slack!
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Re: Mob Talk 32
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08/11/19 05:17 PM
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Joey Electrics Capo is Scoops Licata I thought DG was his capo? According to the tapes he refers to his captain as ‘the kid’. I’m not saying you’re wrong because I know you know your shit but just curious for your answer
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Re: Mob Talk 32
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08/11/19 06:01 PM
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Ravens, from the paperwork, dg is the capo of the rat ..scoops is electrics capo,,,so that line was about Persiano capo...listen, these reporters talk to feds ..and street guys..they are told by both sides whatever they want to hear..no different than....any of us on here that may know either side ..for the most part , they have some good many times not ground breaking or anything but not always the usual stuff... Thanks, Biggie. I appreciate it
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Re: Mob Talk 32
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Persiano and Piccolo were with Nicky Jr out of AC, somehow and someway they ended up with Philly LCN . I can’t see Skinny or Uncle Joe making them.... They did not ...but someone moved them into that wing of the family and I am surprised uncle Joe went for it unless that’s what Joe was talking about in those tapes that are out there ( that they are to wait till ***** gets home ) But why do the mob reporters know all that shit they post on YouTube but they don’t know the real life shit ?? If the have people inside they would know the truth about so much shit ....but they don’t. Whatever about Schratwieser, but you're talking about George Anastasia, right? Respected journalist and author who has covered the crime beat in Philly for so many years and published many critically esteemed books? Cut the guy some slack! Yeah no doubt Moe just saying , I am really more surprised that it was kept quiet all these years . But it’s more amazing that all the years I have never seen the truth posted and there are some sharpe guys on here and the other site. But tell you what two guys here knew it and PM me over the years ....I never told them if they were right or wrong but they were right for all the people that do this for a living two guys here hit it right or they are very close to these guys. Up in the Catskills it’s beautiful up here and in 50’s over night ...loving this.
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Re: Mob Talk 32
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08/13/19 07:46 AM
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So it’s like the weather person.....partly cloudy, some sun, clouds and sun , some clouds with sun . Lmao I don’t get it a few weeks ago GA and mayo face had borghesi as not active or involved and now this week they say he’s acting boss. I think there’s a lot more stuff going on in Philly than they want us to believe
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Re: Mob Talk 32
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08/13/19 11:33 AM
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Lmao I don’t get it a few weeks ago GA and mayo face had borghesi as not active or involved and now this week they say he’s acting boss. I think there’s a lot more stuff going on in Philly than they want us to believe
George A. and Dave said Borgesi has stepped away and gone legit - they aren't the ones making the claim that he is the new acting boss. Scott's new article (that someone linked above) is where the claim of George Borgesi being the new acting boss came from. I enjoy reading Scott's site and his book on Leonetti was terrific, however I would take a lot of the things he posts about modern day Philly LCN with a grain of salt. He may or may not have someone connected feeding him information, but I think there are a lot of things that he speculates about just like we do. He has Narducci and Joe Pung active (and both as captains) when many of the very reputable and knowledgeable Philly posters here and on the other site claim that Narducci and Pung are not involved. There is also the matter of Merlino introducing Mikey Lance to the Genovese guys as "the boss of Philadelphia" which would make you believe that Lance is the acting or street boss for Joey. To go with that, they have been saying for months on their Mob Talk show that Borgesi is inactive from family affairs and is making cash from legitimate means, essentially putting himself on the shelf. Why would you need two acting bosses for a family they claim doesn't have that much going on? I think there is a chance Borgesi has moved back up into the administration, but it would seem more likely to me that he would fill Ligambi's empty consigliere role (a position he held before their 2001 racketeering conviction). I think that finally after all these years of everyone knowing everything about them that today even the feds don't know the administration in Philly. They probably wouldn't have a clue on Mikey Lance if it wasn't for Rubeo, and even then the only other thing they know is Merlino. We don't know for sure who the underboss and consigliere are. George A. and Dave say that all of these powerful guys like Johnny Chang, Stevie Mazzone, and Borgesi have stepped back and gone completely legit. Chickie Chang came out after 30 years and jumped right back in, so why would Johnny walk away now? I just don't buy it. I think they finally understand the need to keep some things a secret and maybe are using smoke and mirrors regarding who is active/inactive or who has what position. Like someone else said, two years ago Dave was on Fox 29 saying the Philly mob "was back" and as strong as the end of the Scarfo era with 35+ made guys on the streets. You've got all of these top-level guys out on the streets, with the family at it's largest size in over 30 years, and now it's gone legit with them claiming there is nothing to run in Philly?
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Re: Mob Talk 32
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08/14/19 06:43 PM
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Dante my wife and I spend 200,000 a year and we scale it down and that’s with mortgages , no gambling just living and traveling, no designer clothes and the wife does have some expensive stuff but trust me it’s very minimal . But there are children grandchildren and great grandchildren the travel for that is 50g or more a year.
They ( guys that are bosses and skippers) are spending as much but going out three times of what we do . And one night out at good spots can easily be a thousand.
Cars are 50,000 and up insurance on all our autos is 12,000 a year that’s private autos nothing to do with business .... it’s crazy when you add it all up. Thats what happens when you have a good economy thanks to Donald J Trump but a shithead governor Tom Wolf and a even bigger shit smear in our soda taxing commie Mayor
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Re: Mob Talk 32
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Dante my wife and I spend 200,000 a year and we scale it down and that’s with mortgages , no gambling just living and traveling, no designer clothes and the wife does have some expensive stuff but trust me it’s very minimal . But there are children grandchildren and great grandchildren the travel for that is 50g or more a year.
They ( guys that are bosses and skippers) are spending as much but going out three times of what we do . And one night out at good spots can easily be a thousand.
Cars are 50,000 and up insurance on all our autos is 12,000 a year that’s private autos nothing to do with business .... it’s crazy when you add it all up. Geez ,Serp…, What the f..ck u do 4 a living..or did...that's a lot of $$...I know..I know,,,,u probably still take numbers down there in the south jersey area...good man...talk 2 Philip lately??...just kiddin'...I don't expect u 2 answer that...
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Re: Mob Talk 32
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08/18/19 12:11 AM
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Speaking of Philly, in the North end of Boston tonight and Shawn Vetere is in here holding court
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Re: Mob Talk 32
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08/18/19 02:27 PM
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What exactly does holding court mean? Like did he have a crew around him listening to his every whim? I’m under a strong impression Shawn won’t even j walk, so I’m interested as to what that means
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Re: Mob Talk 32
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08/19/19 10:48 AM
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What exactly does holding court mean? Like did he have a crew around him listening to his every whim? I’m under a strong impression Shawn won’t even j walk, so I’m interested as to what that means Some sarcasm mixed in there, nah he was at the bar at Bricco with a few guys.
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Re: Mob Talk 32
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08/19/19 12:07 PM
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ok, i figured that, thought maybe you meant he was with boston guys or what not... No not that I recognized.
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Re: Mob Talk 32
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08/19/19 01:36 PM
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If its the same guy, this dude has a linkedin and it appears a legit corporate job (maybe union)? Based on the picture it appears to be him? So hes a made guy in Boston that reports to Borgesi? Speaking of Philly, in the North end of Boston tonight and Shawn Vetere is in here holding court
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Re: Mob Talk 32
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08/19/19 02:15 PM
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If its the same guy, this dude has a linkedin and it appears a legit corporate job (maybe union)? Based on the picture it appears to be him? So hes a made guy in Boston that reports to Borgesi? Speaking of Philly, in the North end of Boston tonight and Shawn Vetere is in here holding court From what I understand hes part of a crew that are made and operating in Boston under Borgesi.......Someone with more knowledge could probably verify that better than I could.
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Re: Mob Talk 32
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08/19/19 04:30 PM
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Hasn't been a story about anything in Boston since Salemmi trial. It's interesting since Anthony, Carmen, and Matty G are all out and on the streets the administration is clearly in place. I wonder who took the Consigliere spot after Achille passed if you believe that Carmen is at the top and Matty UB. I guess it could be Anthony or Spucky I'm shocked Angelesco has been out of the news, courts and jail
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Re: Mob Talk 32
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08/19/19 04:45 PM
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Hasn't been a story about anything in Boston since Salemmi trial. It's interesting since Anthony, Carmen, and Matty G are all out and on the streets the administration is clearly in place. I wonder who took the Consigliere spot after Achille passed if you believe that Carmen is at the top and Matty UB. I guess it could be Anthony or Spucky I'm shocked Angelesco has been out of the news, courts and jail It has to be someone in Boston. They're all dinosaurs in RI.
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Re: Mob Talk 32
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08/19/19 07:12 PM
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If its the same guy, this dude has a linkedin and it appears a legit corporate job (maybe union)? Based on the picture it appears to be him? So hes a made guy in Boston that reports to Borgesi? Speaking of Philly, in the North end of Boston tonight and Shawn Vetere is in here holding court From what I understand hes part of a crew that are made and operating in Boston under Borgesi.......Someone with more knowledge could probably verify that better than I could. Come on Georgie has gone legitimate and does nothing.....ðŸ˜
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Re: Mob Talk 32
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Hasn't been a story about anything in Boston since Salemmi trial. It's interesting since Anthony, Carmen, and Matty G are all out and on the streets the administration is clearly in place. I wonder who took the Consigliere spot after Achille passed if you believe that Carmen is at the top and Matty UB. I guess it could be Anthony or Spucky I'm shocked Angelesco has been out of the news, courts and jail It has to be someone in Boston. They're all dinosaurs in RI. Well, reports were Anthony Parillo was the consigliere before going away for being an idiot and Lato is out he could be consigliere material as a reward but I agree it's probably a Boston guy
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Re: Mob Talk 32
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Come on Georgie has gone legitimate and does nothing.....😠Maybe Georgie Boy really is the acting boss now that Mikey Lance is having medical issues again. I was skeptical when I first read it but at the time I didn't know Lancelotti was sick.
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Re: Mob Talk 32
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Come on Georgie has gone legitimate and does nothing.....😠Maybe Georgie Boy really is the acting boss now that Mikey Lance is having medical issues again. I was skeptical when I first read it but at the time I didn't know Lancelotti was sick. And has been for a while, it was funny that the mob experts had him being a good boy and they were / are soooo far off.
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Re: Mob Talk 32
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Dante my wife and I spend 200,000 a year and we scale it down and that’s with mortgages , no gambling just living and traveling, no designer clothes and the wife does have some expensive stuff but trust me it’s very minimal . But there are children grandchildren and great grandchildren the travel for that is 50g or more a year.
They ( guys that are bosses and skippers) are spending as much but going out three times of what we do . And one night out at good spots can easily be a thousand.
Cars are 50,000 and up insurance on all our autos is 12,000 a year that’s private autos nothing to do with business .... it’s crazy when you add it all up. Thats what happens when you have a good economy thanks to Donald J Trump but a shithead governor Tom Wolf and a even bigger shit smear in our soda taxing commie Mayor Hopefully PA comes through again in 2020.
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Re: Mob Talk 32
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And has been for a while, it was funny that the mob experts had him being a good boy and they were / are soooo far off. Serp, it seems like that info you posted about Mikey Lance has spread pretty quick! It looks like whoever runs a certain mob website reads this forum - it just so happens that right after you posted that the top story on their website is about George Borgesi being the new acting boss in Philly. The article also cites information about Lance being sick, and I haven't seen that posted anywhere else or by anyone but you. https://aboutthemafia.com/is-george-borgesi-the-new-acting-boss-of-the-philadelphia-mafia
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Re: Mob Talk 32
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And has been for a while, it was funny that the mob experts had him being a good boy and they were / are soooo far off. Serp, it seems like that info you posted about Mikey Lance has spread pretty quick! It looks like whoever runs a certain mob website reads this forum - it just so happens that right after you posted that the top story on their website is about George Borgesi being the new acting boss in Philly. The article also cites information about Lance being sick, and I haven't seen that posted anywhere else or by anyone but you. https://aboutthemafia.com/is-george-borgesi-the-new-acting-boss-of-the-philadelphia-mafiaI was told a longtime ago by someone very close to him and another that hangs with many of them .... but I was asked to keep quiet. So I did till i herd people at the bar talking about it and I knew it was just a matter of a couple weeks before it hit the news. Yeah all kinds of people are here mostly a lot of youngsters but then there is the others .
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Re: Mob Talk 32
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Most people talk about sports while propping up the bar. People in Philly talk about the mob? WTF? I would've thought that anyone in that life wouldn't talk about their business in a public place in earshot of other people under penalty of death. And I would've thought the American mafia is a completely obscure and weird topic for people to talk about casually in a social setting, a dangerous thing too if someone overheard them spreading gossip.
I will never understand Philly mob culture. I could never see this happening in NY. First you are way off... Next it was about health and it was all neighborhood guys and had nothing to do with crime it had to do with doctor appointments. It has nothing to do with NY , Philly , Boston , Detroit it’s a North East neighborhood thing ..... we grew up in this . And it’s not made guys sharing family business......it’s regular neighborhood talk and always has been and always will be. Big Fella check your PM
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Re: Mob Talk 32
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And has been for a while, it was funny that the mob experts had him being a good boy and they were / are soooo far off. Serp, it seems like that info you posted about Mikey Lance has spread pretty quick! It looks like whoever runs a certain mob website reads this forum - it just so happens that right after you posted that the top story on their website is about George Borgesi being the new acting boss in Philly. The article also cites information about Lance being sick, and I haven't seen that posted anywhere else or by anyone but you. https://aboutthemafia.com/is-george-borgesi-the-new-acting-boss-of-the-philadelphia-mafiaDon’t know but his neighborhood knows and has for a while and also a couple years back.give or take.
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Re: Mob Talk 32
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Serp you seem to have a good grasp on the Philly scene. And this is sort of off topic but I wanted to know if you've ever heard anything in passing on this. In Rhode Island there's a south Philly guy who owns a restaurant in Westerly,RI. I'm friendly with him and like every other neighborhood guy no matter what city your from, you claim to know someone. In his case, Skinny Joe. There was an article a year or so ago mentioning his restaurant was a meeting place for Philly/Providence guys. And I know a few girls who work/worked there also saying there were plenty of nights that he had guys from back home at the restaurant. Again, its second hand.
Idk if you know the guy I'm talking about, but if you do, is he/his spot legit?
I go back and forth. He was sued by another famous Philly restaurant guy who owns a spot in Ft Laudy because he copied his concept. You def know who I mean. So I can't tell if the guy is full of sh*t or not.
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Re: Mob Talk 32
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Most people talk about sports while propping up the bar. People in Philly talk about the mob? WTF? I would've thought that anyone in that life wouldn't talk about their business in a public place in earshot of other people under penalty of death. And I would've thought the American mafia is a completely obscure and weird topic for people to talk about casually in a social setting, a dangerous thing too if someone overheard them spreading gossip.
I will never understand Philly mob culture. I could never see this happening in NY. First you are way off... Next it was about health and it was all neighborhood guys and had nothing to do with crime it had to do with doctor appointments. It has nothing to do with NY , Philly , Boston , Detroit it’s a North East neighborhood thing ..... we grew up in this . And it’s not made guys sharing family business......it’s regular neighborhood talk and always has been and always will be. Big Fella check your PM Oh, okay.
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Re: Mob Talk 32
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08/21/19 12:22 PM
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Does the name of the business have the word ( Airport ) in it ? [/quote]
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Re: Mob Talk 32
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08/21/19 02:46 PM
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Does the name of the business have the word ( Airport ) in it ?
No it doesn't[/quote] Then no I don’t
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Re: Mob Talk 32
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08/21/19 05:37 PM
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Hopefully his cancer is serious? You sick fuck. Hopefully my mother doesn't develop cervical cancer from her HPV that my brother gave her. That's a revolting way to talk about your own mother, PhillyGuys.
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Re: Mob Talk 32
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08/21/19 07:06 PM
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Hopefully his cancer is serious? You sick fuck. Hopefully my mother doesn't develop cervical cancer from her HPV that my brother gave her. That's a revolting way to talk about your own mother, PhillyGuys. I dunno what is going on here but this is disgusting..... PhillyGuys earned himslf a week off and Moe Tilden got himself a month. These kinds of flaming are childish and have no place here on the GBB.
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Re: Mob Talk 32
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08/22/19 09:36 AM
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Are the guys really cool with Skinny being in Florida all the time? Kicking up to a guy you never see has got to bother some of those guys in the trenches. I wouldn't be all that surprised if Dom took over the whole thing eventually. Never know, until there is a powerful skipper willing to flex or till Skinny no longer wants the bullseye then it looks like status quo . Always that chance he has moved someone up to acting boss and will take less of a cut . Will not know till someone way up flips or LE gets a wire on someone running there mouth .
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Re: Mob Talk 32
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08/22/19 05:17 PM
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At the last trial they said skinny was a capo The guys lie for a living and many new guys are fucked with and are told a lot of shit . These days are different with the boss then it was before the 80’s. I don’t know when the public will find out the truth who is who and what is what , they even had a rumor that there was no structure and it was every man for himself for some time . You can tel LE doesn’t know because you would know..... so it’s wait for someone high up to flip because AP may not know if Skinny and Joe L had a arrangement maybe there was a third . You never know till you know.
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Re: Mob Talk 32
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09/20/19 02:19 PM
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I’m pretty sure Persiano and Piccolo were originally with Nicky Jr. Persiano is a rat scumbag who dimed out his own "friends" he always said he "hated rats and he was a man's man" hopefully in prison he will become a "man's man"
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Re: Mob Talk 32
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09/20/19 06:11 PM
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Dear Serp, I need on that VIP PM (if u don’t mind)...hope I qualify
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Re: Mob Talk 32
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09/20/19 06:47 PM
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Dear Serp, I need on that VIP PM (if u don’t mind)...hope I qualify I got you .... but it’s a bunch of us locals that have a few things in common. But if you look back in my posts you can see pretty much what mayo face said .
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Re: Mob Talk 32
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09/21/19 07:35 AM
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From a macro perspective I have to say I don't understand how rats are any worse than non-rats. They are all morally reprehensible people. They all, more often than not, spend insufficient time in prison compared to the gravity of their crimes and impact on society. They're a necessary evil because without them it would've been harder to break the mafia's stranglehold and their crimes would be even harder to prosecute.
Again, looking at it from a macro perspective. I've never seen a mobster in my life unless I passed them on the street, so the animus towards rats I don't get.
If I was a criminal with a street code, then yes I would hate them, but I'd also have the self-awareness to know my morals are different to John from Accounting or Helen from Human Resources.
I don't know if there's ever been a research paper done on how many rats reoffend, but it has to be very little. For every Casso or Gravano, there are twenty guys like Leonetti or D'Arco.
Is it not a good thing when people are offered the chance to be rehabilitated and reintroduced into society?
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Re: Mob Talk 32
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From a macro perspective I have to say I don't understand how rats are any worse than non-rats. They are all morally reprehensible people. They all, more often than not, spend insufficient time in prison compared to the gravity of their crimes and impact on society. They're a necessary evil because without them it would've been harder to break the mafia's stranglehold and their crimes would be even harder to prosecute.
Again, looking at it from a macro perspective. I've never seen a mobster in my life unless I passed them on the street, so the animus towards rats I don't get.
If I was a criminal with a street code, then yes I would hate them, but I'd also have the self-awareness to know my morals are different to John from Accounting or Helen from Human Resources.
I don't know if there's ever been a research paper done on how many rats reoffend, but it has to be very little. For every Casso or Gravano, there are twenty guys like Leonetti or D'Arco.
Is it not a good thing when people are offered the chance to be rehabilitated and reintroduced into society? I guess it's an issue because these were big boys that were all grown up and able to make a decision about their lives. So they knew very well what they got into and decided to dedicate their life to a life outside of ordinary society. And then when they get caught, they sell out everything they claimed they "used" to believed in and f*cks it all up for a guy who were smart enough to not get caught. To me, that's just a rotten and spineless personality. Also I can't help but to feel that most guys who turned because there was a contract out on them or "they thought they would be killed" only say so to justify their ends or to convince the public that they had no choice so they're not really a rat. The only rat I have respect for is James Calandra from the Bath Avenue crew. He told it like it was and didn't sugarcoat it. I think he said something in the line of "Yeah I ratted. I went to prison. Kept my mouth shut and when i get out everybody turns on me all of a sudden. Guys, ratted on me. Even the higher ups started turning. What am I going to do be a sucker?"
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Re: Mob Talk 32
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09/23/19 01:32 PM
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I have a question......So after reading about all the making ceremonies they've done or doing. How is it possible that Merlino gave permission to Borgesi to go and make guys in Boston for the satellite crew? How was he able to go into another territory and do that? And why didnt those guys just sign up with the Patriarca's?
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Re: Mob Talk 32
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09/23/19 01:52 PM
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@serpiente...i respect that, but it had to be an old guy that was still active and in good graces with the merlino faction or they would have been shelved long ago You have to remember the turmoil all the families were in . All the bosses were looking at time or locked up . The bosses that were active were behind Nick at the time and were not behind Skinny because he was just a street thug. It was around the time Stanfa was in or just outed or when Skinny and half ass Ralph were around. This was not recently. The thing I don’t know for sure is the date . They were not Luke’s like Mayo said they were Philly made guys before Skinny was or right around same time . This is just proof of how fucken bad the Feds had the families on the ropes at that time . All kinds of shit that would of put people in the ground in the 80’s and before was going down .
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Re: Mob Talk 32
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09/24/19 10:29 AM
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I am saying I don’t know when exactly but before the First Plus case , or right at beginning but if that was the case I don’t think Skinny would of taken them in.
And I don’t think Nick sr. had enough juice as time went on so the time is a problem.
Now don’t get me wrong it’s always possible that one person got one fact wrong.
But one thing pretty dam sure Skinny would never if signed off on it back then.
So between Skinny and good amount of time before the First Plus case . And it was when NY still had Nick sr. as boss , so obviously it was before they excepted Skinny and Philly as it is .
Now obviously Skinny had to bring them into the fold or be told by NY that they are Philly soldiers.
Then there is always a chance it’s all not true .
But from what I’ve been told over the years it all matches up with what was just posted on Mob Talk , but it looks like AP is / was so fucked up that we may never know.
But my sources were right therein and during the First Plus case so most of it is pretty reliable.
The Stanfa and Ralph thing is just to show how screwed up it had gotten, guys getting made that were not even eligible according to the rules , so who knows who was made and who wasn’t. Sal Pellullo - and the gang went to Florida - that's most likely where they were"made" he went to see Senior Scarfo a few times in prison. AP is scum and so is Sal, I don't think Joey M would want to get involved with either one of them or their little croonies. They would all meet up in AC. Scarfo Jr, was a nice guy and respectable - but Sal was a loud mouth show off wanna be. AP would have kissed anybody's ass just to fit in.
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Re: Mob Talk 32
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09/24/19 10:31 AM
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this was around 2007 - 2008...and all while Ant P was on parole, fresh home from prison. didn't take him long to start ripping innocent people off and doing coke, and traveling illegally by saying it's "job related" - oh if they only knew.
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Re: Mob Talk 32
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that's bull shit - he thinks he's a boxer and he used to be Sal's driver and gopher. if he was on the up and up - he would have nothing to do with the scumbag crew. todd stark - the "head"of security for sal pelullo and crew.
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Re: Mob Talk 32
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Oh my:
All makes sense they were doing and hanging out together seen them on New York ave. often at a spot where JP was running for someone and the crew was pretty big for them to be hanging out with 10 plus guys in the open.
And that Sal what a fucken guy to make but still not as bad as AP.
They had a few local guys and a few Philly guys and a few north jersey guys all active ,the most of the guys are on charts and from all different families.
There was some shit that was going to go down but Feds got most of them first .
I am sure you guys can fill in the pieces from the time line and the guys that were involved with Jr. he had them all , but what gets me he must of had the okey from NY todo what he was doing. We all know it never came to fruition but very close and would of made for some wild history if it did.
But now it’s all history. Please I cannot stand the suspense - why is AP worse than Sal? they are both street rats. i am dying to hear this about the AP
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Re: Mob Talk 32
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09/24/19 06:46 PM
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I’m pretty sure AP got made when the FirstPlus scam was going on and Nicky Jr had a crew he put together in Atlantic City and it’s suburbs. Right on Dante . It was when they had the strip club on New York ave and right before the First Plus case in and around that time but don’t know when,and there may of been more . A couple locals that hung around when Nickwas boss and friends with Jr. and or others were all hanging out , few of the guys were pinched in the case and more were most likely made .
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Re: Mob Talk 32
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the big question why would the south philly guys want any guys that was under scarfo jr. i mean its a simple answer they make money but i wonder who in th ephilly family said hey lets take what ever leftovers from nick jrs ac crew after he went down. there was a old article, a wire tapd convo between scarfo jr and that guy sal. hes telling him whenever hes in philly not to act like a bigshot cause they dont recognize nick or him as anyone. he was telling him keep a low profile he couldn t help him there. but a few years later the south philly guys took the guy AP strange. but hes from there so there must be some connection. and at the end of the day this guys AP didnt even get whoever his own capo in trouble. he probaly didnt even trust him. he got a few drugs guys selling fake percs. womp womp The Feds are clearly going to use the AP wire he wore and the Undercover FBI agent AP introduced into the crew in another indictment down the road targeting their Capo and maybe some admin in my opinion. This is just my opinion. I have no inside knowledge. I would say The Capo (Dom Grande) could have a problem down the road. If you read the indictment Piccolo and AP were clearly reporting to Grande. Joey Electric even though he moved down to South Jersey was in the North Jersey crew under Scoops Licata. It’s all there in the indictment. I think you are right and many have been saying stuff .... could AP been so fucked up that they cannot use it because this should of happened. I herd it was going down from someone that works at a attorneys office but nothing since .... I posted that it was coming because of her telling me , but nothing.
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Re: Mob Talk 32
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Persiano and Pelullo - made while Scarfo Sr in prison - Pelullo went to see Sr... it may have been between 2007 - 2010 or so. Pelullo wanted to be a big real estate mogul, and Persiano would rob his mother to have more money in his pockets. He spent years in prison for the murder of Anthony Cavaleri, swears he didn't do - but most of us think he did. He told somebody I know that Nicky Albanese was the person who murdered Anthony Cavaleri, that he was being a stand up guy to take the heat for Nicky A. He came home - started right back up in business again. He had a girl who was taking care of him while he was away (friend of mine) who didn't let him want for nothing. He fcked that up with her - used her up - took everything she had - broke her heart - mentally - physically and emotionally abusive. She told me and my girl that she wishes he would drop dead.
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Re: Mob Talk 32
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AP is not from Philly. Back in the day he ran around with Louie Turra, they were BIG time drug dealers. AP is from Jersey. Louie got locked up - commited suicide in his cell, that left AP to take over the drug dealing. Louie and AP were at odds with the Philly guys - and the Philly guys really hated Louie Turra, that's understandable. Like I said before - I know that girl that he f*ckd up and f*cked over after years of lying to her. She said - and I quote - no lie - no embellishment - her exact words - "there were times when I looked into his eyes and saw pure evil, darkness and emptiness" she said he had a good way of hiding his true self from others. The Turra part is true and it’s difficult to believe thatSkinny let him into the fold , I don’t know what would make hit do that . These guys make some of the most fucken strange decisions . Sammy yeah ... but to let AP get close enough to even give him a chance to have shit on the family I will never know.
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Re: Mob Talk 32
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Dear PMAC.... please know that every time I read or hear “predicate†- I shiver a lil... Love, Sittite
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