https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbaro_%27ndrina

In Italy definitly the ndrangheta with the Barbaro ndrina,in the ‘ndrangheta it is said that there are only two roads: or born Barbaro or become their ally.Cosa Nostra never rebuilt his power and the Camorra don't have the power to compete.
Mexico:The Sinaloa Cartel with Ismael Zamba aka El Mayo

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbaro_%27ndrina

In Italy definitly the ndrangheta with the Barbaro ndrina,in the ‘ndrangheta it is said that there are only two roads: or born Barbaro or become their ally.Cosa Nostra never rebuilt his power and the Camorra don't have the power to compete.
Mexico:The Sinaloa Cartel with Ismael Zamba aka El Mayo

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbaro_%27ndrina

In Italy definitly the ndrangheta with the Barbaro ndrina,in the ‘ndrangheta it is said that there are only two roads: or born Barbaro or become their ally.Cosa Nostra never rebuilt his power and the Camorra don't have the power to compete.
Mexico:The Sinaloa Cartel with Ismael Zamba aka El Mayo

There are a lot of big players in the underworld that we don't know about.

in the us or in general ?

Everywhere

yes that's true
but in the us people know then in the rest of the world
except maybe the westside

You have Russian organized crime that are pretty powerful in the US , not much is known about their operations today.

In the US the power remaining is in New York, but in terms of most powerful, it's gotta be Barney Bellomo now. Head of the Genovese. My guess is Joey Merlino is up there among the other NY bosses as well.

In italy Matteo Messina Denaro can be considerated rich but the Barbaro ndrine was the most powerful especially in north italy and in Australia (a member of the ndrine Robert Trimbole killed the politician against the weeds Donald McKay in 1977,this episode was portrayed in Underbelly tv serie) and had ties even in canada.

In the US you must consider state by state and even city by city: in NY Barney Bellomo while in some part there are the bikers or the gang that are the most powerful. But if I would make a choice I would say that the Mexican cartels and their allies are the most feared and powerful in the whole US territory.

The amount of money that they see in Italy and overseas in general the is the stuff of hedge fund managers here in the US I think. Just seeing how much is seized by the government is mind boggling. And it’s only a fraction of their wealth. Routinely you’ll see hundreds of millions of euros taken away from them but it doesn’t seem to affect them that much.

Good point. Seems like the money that is being dealt with over there dwarfs us over here. When we talk about most powerful in terms of the LCN, no one really stands out to me. Everything in this country is so overshadowed by drugs and Chapo has taken more lime light in this country than any mob boss has.

What I will say is based off everything I've read about the guy. I feel like if Cali never got killed, he would of became huge here. Fast forward 10-15 years, if he was still alive and became boss of the Gambinos, he would of been talked about in the same circles as guys like Carlo among other big time historical bosses. He would of been a no brainer as the most powerful in the country.

i don't think so, messina denaro is by far the richest boss but he's also very powerful, he's the boss of trapani province with 1.000 made members under him and connections everywhere in italy and abroad (europe, usa, venezuela, africa)

Piromallis are very rich...

I was about to disagree about the Barbaros, but then you see Ciments post about the meth bust in Australia and well..... They might have the most profit potential.. the Aussies also produce thier own weed, and a few years ago there was the record extacy bust, kilos of coke are like 100 grand.... Shit, they could be.....


Dimaria was very rich, I have no idea what clan hes boss of.

The Commisos gotta be filthy, Aquinos, Romeos...

The Polverinos had a billion dollar hash business...

Don't forger the Cuntrera-Caruana , extremely powerful and rich. Also the Guttadauro's

from messina denaro frontmen were seized assets worth 5 billions in total, anyway i was talking of italy i dont know about mogilevich, he could be richer although i doubt it

Piromallis are very rich...

I was about to disagree about the Barbaros, but then you see Ciments post about the meth bust in Australia and well..... They might have the most profit potential.. the Aussies also produce thier own weed, and a few years ago there was the record extacy bust, kilos of coke are like 100 grand.... Shit, they could be.....


Dimaria was very rich, I have no idea what clan hes boss of.

The Commisos gotta be filthy, Aquinos, Romeos...

The Polverinos had a billion dollar hash business...

It's not the Orlando's in control? Still the Polverinos?

I think the Corleonesi under Riina could’ve been richer.

Any idea who the most powerful crime boss is in France?

Serbian Sreten Jocic aka Joca Amsterdam is up there here in Europe.

The ndrangheta’s most powerful families appear to be present mostly in the southern area of the region. Why not the north?

Filip Korac is more powerful than Joca Amsterdam.

Not over here. But I agree he could be in the future didn't he settle in Holland some time ago? It's just that the name Joca still means something here he still has unfinished business and connections in Amsterdam. It is his hometown and that of his sons.

Yes he did, Filip Korac is in Holland , he is biggest drug trafficker in Balkans. He and his crew also did murders for Willem Holleeder.

How hurt will a lot of these drug trafficking mafia families around the world be when marijuana becomes legal? Of course it will make a dent in their profits but what can they do to offset this?

I think the Mexican cartels would be hit the hardest. What organization is the strongest in Spain? Do they have an organized crime syndicate or do they have transplants who set up operations there?

the galician mobsters are the strongest in spain and the most organized

Are the Somali pirates organized at all or are they more like bandits who steal and do nothing else? I am sure there are more powerful crime groups on the continent of Africa.

In the US the power remaining is in New York, but in terms of most powerful, it's gotta be Barney Bellomo now. Head of the Genovese. My guess is Joey Merlino is up there among the other NY bosses as well.

Thanks, Holleeder once said he find it difficult to separate all those Yugoslavs. With Paja and Luka B., Holleeder was once fined on the Rozengracht for wild peeing lol..

Holleeder is very close to Luka Bojovic. He needed their help when he went to war vs Joca Amesterdam ,main guys for him in Amsterdam were Miloš Bato Petrović and Maruf Paja Mrzić. I don't know what side were other powerful figures from Amsterdam like Magdi Barsoum and Stanley Hillis.

@ Strax, don't forget Dragan Ilic. Very wealthy gangster living in Argentina he has a good relationship with the leaders of the cocaine cartels. His connection with Joca began in the Netherlands and continued throughout the following years.

I know him personally, he is a billionaire , we met at a private party in Belgrade. He is from Nis. He is very powerful , but looks like almost everyone close to Joca got killed? And after so many years in prison , question is , how powerful he really is in Amsterdam today.

Because south is their stronghold obviously , they have complete control of their southern region , thats the reason why they always stay there when they go on the run , because they are feeling safe and protected in south , having almost complete control of all aspects of life.

Or do you mean the north of Calabria yeah their power base is Reggio Calabria province.